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Netflix to drop HD DVD but concerned about Blu-ray prices
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article published on 11 February, 2008
According to the Associated Press, internet DVD rental leader Netflix has decided to jump on the Blu-ray bandwagon, and will be dropping HD DVD rentals completely.
"From the Netflix perspective, focusing on one format will enable us to create the best experience for subscribers," said a company spokesman, adding that not many customers seem interested in either format yet.
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jrosado5
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11. February 2008 @ 13:32 |
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Just freaking retarded Netflix. With more than a million HD DVD players out there and more being sold on a daily basis with the new low prices, there is no doubt that there is an HD DVD customer base! You just don't want to take care of your HD DVD customers and instead are drinking the Blu-Ray Kool Aid. How much did Sony pay you? They paid Warner $500 million for their support and I am sure they bought you off as well.
"From the Netflix perspective, focusing on one format will enable us to create the best experience for subscribers,"
Total Bull$hit! The best experience is to take care of your HD DVD customers and not being a Sony prostitute!
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11. February 2008 @ 13:40 |
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Noooo say this isn't true just a few months back after blockbusters drop HD-DVD in there brick & mortar stores to back Blu-Ray.Netflix said they had more customers renting HD-DVD than Blu-Ray i guess all that was a bunch of FUD.
Originally posted by jrosado5:
Total Bull$hit! The best experience is to take care of your HD DVD customers and not being a Sony prostitute!
You can still get a Blu-Ray player now for 300 bucks you should have seen this coming with all the announcement that company's going BD exclusive.
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oappi
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11. February 2008 @ 13:51 |
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some ppl just go nuts over anything... When you bought hd-dvd player or blu-ray while there was no clear winner you knew the risk of getting next gen betamax. Get over it. Bd just has more movies ppl want to watch. Simple as that. Who cares about disc as normal media now. We got usb memmory sticks which are faster and more reliable.So if movies are on bd camp it bye bye for hd-dvd.
i for one was quite sure there will be looser and thought that it is most likely hd-dvd since sony has movie studio and playstation. So they had to scr*w up badly not to win. For a while i thought they did that (denied porn for short perioid of time). Also there was not enought space for beta and vhs on their time. It just seems that industry wants to have one standard.
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OhCrap
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11. February 2008 @ 13:54 |
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Another nail in the coffin.
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nobrainer
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11. February 2008 @ 14:02 |
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"From the Netflix perspective, focusing on one format will enable us to create the best experience for subscribers," said a company spokesman, adding that not many customers seem interested in either format yet.
and they say the war was won by public demand for blu-ray, lol the rhetoric from the MPAA to push their, anti consumer, propertarian DRM blu-ray format of choice is funny!
dvd's are far cheaper & its easy to copy and protect your investment and by far the best choice until a consumer friendly download site is available. as atm there is none, Me Hearties!
even Sony's own top dog Phil Harrison stated that it would be very unlikely that the ps4 would have an optical drive because of the move towards online distribution, blu-ray/hd-dvd waste of money!
http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3152746
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Phil Harrison told Wired that he would be "amazed if the PS4 has a physical disk drive." In fairness, Harrison was talking about the emergence of electronic distribution (something Sony's mastermind Ken Kutaragi has championed previously), but that doesn't change the back-handed slap to the Blu-ray format.
if you remove blu-ray regional coding the BD+ DRM disables your player, if this isn't the best global price fixing DRM ever conceived i'd eat my hat, but it does also have the ability to authorise a disc on a server like pc software and steam so one day soon we may see a film locked to one DRM player or 1 IP address like sony's download warhawk eula that states you are not allowed to lend, sell on or even give it away.
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axemurder
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11. February 2008 @ 14:21 |
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GOD .. HD DVD will you just die already
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goodswipe
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11. February 2008 @ 14:24 |
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Originally posted by oappi:
So they had to scr*w up badly not to win. For a while i thought they did that (denied porn for short perioid of time).
I don't think the porn companies ever played a role in determining this new format war. This situation can not be compared to the Betamax vs VHS days, due to the internet now. Customers are far better off d/l their porn then paying these absurdly high prices for Blu-ray/HD DVD media. One month porn subscription goes for let's say, errr...29.99 a month. One Blu-ray/HD DVD porn vid, 49.99. LMFAO, you make the decision.
Sad to see Netflix giving the HD DVD camp a Mike Tyson uppercut.
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11. February 2008 @ 14:34 |
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Sad to see Netflix giving the HD DVD camp a Mike Tyson uppercut
Or the Mike Tyson ear nibble.
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11. February 2008 @ 14:40 |
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wont be using netflix anytime soon I guess.
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OhCrap
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11. February 2008 @ 15:10 |
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if you remove blu-ray regional coding the BD+ DRM disables your player, if this isn't the best global price fixing DRM ever conceived i'd eat my hat, but it does also have the ability to authorise a disc on a server like pc software and steam so one day soon we may see a film locked to one DRM player or 1 IP address like sony's download warhawk eula that states you are not allowed to lend, sell on or even give it away.
You act as if these companies should give you all the rights to these products when you purchase them. Of course they only want them to be played in certain regions and to include encryption so they can't be easily copied by the average joe. Don't forget about how unlocking your iPhone and then updating the firmware would supposedly turn it into a brick.
As for warhawk, that only applies for the version that is downladable from the psn store not the disk version that you can rent from gamefly or buy used at any ebgames. Majority of people that copy dvd's use the excuse that they only copy them so that they have a backup in case something happens to the original or so they don't damage the original. In the case of warhawk you can always redownload it if needed, since it is tied to your psn account. You act as if they should just give things away and freely allow people to redistribute their products. Original DVD doesn't even allow that.
You sound just like freaking HughJars.
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11. February 2008 @ 15:38 |
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Where does this get Netflix, besides in the toilet with the hundreds of thousands to millions of HD DVD owners, and in bed with Sony and its DRM pushing friends?
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"From the Netflix perspective, focusing on one format will enable us to create the best experience for subscribers," said a company spokesman, adding that not many customers seem interested in either format yet.
Wait just a minute, I could see them dropping HD DVD (or Blu-Ray) if customers strongly favored one format over the other but according to the quote currently customers don't have much interest in either format.
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?If a winner emerges and we experience some margin Compression if a large number of subscribers rent in high-def, we?ll weigh the options of increasing prices.
That would mean that if they don't pick up HD DVD again, in the future Blu-Ray fanboys could be paying a decent premium for their content via Netflix.
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atomicxl
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11. February 2008 @ 15:38 |
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Does this mean that I won't be able to rent Transformers anymore? I think they should wait until a clear winner before they totally trash HD-DVD. So any film thats a HD-DVD exclusive won't be on Netflix? Thats sucks.
This whole format war is a joke. I can see studios deciding a format since they make movies. I feel like I should get a 25% discount next month when American Gangster comes out and won't be available in HD because netflix dropped HD-DVD.
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11. February 2008 @ 15:46 |
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Like I've said before, this whole format war was never based on customer choice, rather by deals that were negotiated before the formats were released or there after...
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11. February 2008 @ 16:03 |
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Originally posted by jrosado5:
Just freaking retarded Netflix. With more than a million HD DVD players out there and more being sold on a daily basis with the new low prices, there is no doubt that there is an HD DVD customer base! You just don't want to take care of your HD DVD customers and instead are drinking the Blu-Ray Kool Aid. How much did Sony pay you? They paid Warner $500 million for their support and I am sure they bought you off as well.
"From the Netflix perspective, focusing on one format will enable us to create the best experience for subscribers,"
Total Bull$hit! The best experience is to take care of your HD DVD customers and not being a Sony prostitute!
Really? WB got paid $500 million just to be BD exclusive? Wow, is Sony stupid? $500 million is a lot of bones... Oh wait, is this some bullsh!t from some hd-dvd fan club?
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if you remove blu-ray regional coding the BD+ DRM disables your player, if this isn't the best global price fixing DRM ever conceived i'd eat my hat, but it does also have the ability to authorise a disc on a server like pc software and steam so one day soon we may see a film locked to one DRM player or 1 IP address like sony's download warhawk eula that states you are not allowed to lend, sell on or even give it away.
You act as if these companies should give you all the rights to these products when you purchase them. Of course they only want them to be played in certain regions and to include encryption so they can't be easily copied by the average joe. Don't forget about how unlocking your iPhone and then updating the firmware would supposedly turn it into a brick.
As for warhawk, that only applies for the version that is downladable from the psn store not the disk version that you can rent from gamefly or buy used at any ebgames. Majority of people that copy dvd's use the excuse that they only copy them so that they have a backup in case something happens to the original or so they don't damage the original. In the case of warhawk you can always redownload it if needed, since it is tied to your psn account. You act as if they should just give things away and freely allow people to redistribute their products. Original DVD doesn't even allow that.
You sound just like freaking HughJars.
Dude, couldn't agree more... I understand people want to backup everything they own, but you know what? There are far more things in life you just can't backup, so if you can't do it easily, stop complaining and move to another thing on your to do list.
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juankerr
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11. February 2008 @ 16:27 |
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It gets worse for HD DVD.
Best Buy to Recommend Blu-ray as the Customer's Digital Format Choice
http://www.streetinsider.com/Press+Relea...ce/3345206.html
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/I...ver_HD_DVD/1455
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Beginning in early March, the leading consumer electronics retailer will prominently showcase Blu-ray hardware and software products in its Best Buy retail and online channels in the United States.
According to the President and COO of Best Buy Brian Dunn:
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"Consumers have told us that they want us to help lead the way. We've listened to our customers, and we are responding. Best Buy will recommend Blu-ray as the preferred format,"
"Our decision to shine a spotlight on Blu-ray Disc players and other Blu-ray products is a strong signal to our customers that we believe Blu-ray is the right format choice for them."
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Originally posted by OhCrap:
As for warhawk, that only applies for the version that is downladable from the psn store not the disk version that you can rent from gamefly or buy used at any ebgames. Majority of people that copy dvd's use the excuse that they only copy them so that they have a backup in case something happens to the original or so they don't damage the original. In the case of warhawk you can always redownload it if needed, since it is tied to your psn account. You act as if they should just give things away and freely allow people to redistribute their products. Original DVD doesn't even allow that.
You sound just like freaking HughJars.
Bingo my friend you get brownie points for that.Blu-Ray has solve all these so called issue people was having & got to backup there disc.I guess this don't have anything to do with why DVD sells are at all time low.
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if you remove blu-ray regional coding the BD+ DRM disables your player, if this isn't the best global price fixing DRM ever conceived i'd eat my hat, but it does also have the ability to authorise a disc on a server like pc software and steam so one day soon we may see a film locked to one DRM player or 1 IP address like sony's download warhawk eula that states you are not allowed to lend, sell on or even give it away.
You act as if these companies should give you all the rights to these products when you purchase them. Of course they only want them to be played in certain regions and to include encryption so they can't be easily copied by the average joe. Don't forget about how unlocking your iPhone and then updating the firmware would supposedly turn it into a brick.
As for warhawk, that only applies for the version that is downladable from the psn store not the disk version that you can rent from gamefly or buy used at any ebgames. Majority of people that copy dvd's use the excuse that they only copy them so that they have a backup in case something happens to the original or so they don't damage the original. In the case of warhawk you can always redownload it if needed, since it is tied to your psn account. You act as if they should just give things away and freely allow people to redistribute their products. Original DVD doesn't even allow that.
You sound just like freaking HughJars.
Thank you for pointing that out about Warhawk. I doubt [i]nobrainer[i] owns or has played Warhawk, but yet here he is knocking Sony. I own a PS3 and paid for the downloadable version of Warhawk. I have no complaints on a great game that mind you cost $20 less than the retail disc copy. I'm still not sure why he's complaining about DRM -doesn't the much beloved HD-DVD feature AACS or some other DRM tool? Judging from nobrainer's signature bar I guess we shouldn't expect anything different on any news regarding Sony.
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11. February 2008 @ 17:06 |
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Originally posted by atomicxl:
Does this mean that I won't be able to rent Transformers anymore?
I'm sure Netflix will still offer Transformers on standard definition DVD. So, at least you can still use your HD DVD player to up-convert it.
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More bad news for HD-DVD.
It there any HD-DVD fans out there that really think it can be turned around at this point?
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well i do have a bit of good news. i just saw a tv ad that said circuit city is running a sale on standard dvd movies. -- 3.99 a piece. now thats sweet. im not sure how good the selection is, but im definitley going to check it out. now back to the topic. until br plyers drop in price i dont see it (blueray) catching on. no one i know is going to pay $300.00+ for a dvd player. i hope somone in the blu-ray camp realizes that by christmas this year. i bought a hd-dvd player last nov. for $98.00, and i dont regret it one bit. there is still a great selection of movies for the time being, but by the end of this year ill be looking for a good price on a blu-ray player. i just hope im not disappointed.
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i bought a hd-dvd player last nov. for $98.00, and i dont regret it one bit. there is still a great selection of movies for the time being, but by the end of this year ill be looking for a good price on a blu-ray player. i just hope im not disappointed
For the time being you'll see HD DVD still for sale at most electronics/media stores that have carried the format. Warner is still going to release movies on both formats until May 2008 so you'll still see some great movies such as I Am Legend etc. out on HD DVD, so at least until mid-2008 you won't be disappointed with your $98 purchase.
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11. February 2008 @ 23:44 |
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I only rent standard dvd from netflix(like the majority of users) If they start raising prices to SUBSIDIZE the high cost of blu-ray, I know I will cancel my subscription before the month is out. This could be the end of netflix as a major player and it might revert to a niche blu-ray mail rental service.
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Originally posted by jony218:
I only rent standard dvd from netflix(like the majority of users) If they start raising prices to SUBSIDIZE the high cost of blu-ray, I know I will cancel my subscription before the month is out. This could be the end of netflix as a major player and it might revert to a niche blu-ray mail rental service.
How do you figure that? Seriously. They're buying BD because that's what people want. It's not like they're buying all their stock in next gen formats. If Netflix goes up just because of the BD format, I'll unsubscribe, but until then, your theory is invalid.
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Well i am bummed & irritated & relived, I am bummed cause i just told netflix to send me hd dvd when avail & was looking forward to getting some rentals in hd to watch. irritated cause netflix just said they had more hd dvd rentals than bluray. relived cause i do a lot of "borrowing" after returning & i dont have a way to rip hd dvd's!
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