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Sony and Microsoft in talks for Xbox 360 Blu-ray drive
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article published on 7 March, 2008
According to the Financial Times, Sony is currently in talks with Microsoft about a having the company offer an internal Blu-ray drive model of the Xbox 360 console.
Microsoft had backed the rival HD DVD until the format's demise last month.
The word of the negotiations come from Stan Glasgow, the president of Sony America. Sony has not confirmed the negotiations as of yet however.
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7. March 2008 @ 16:44 |
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Wow, I hope it's an external add-on just like the HD DVD one. I don't mind a triple drive dual format system =P
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kingrob
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7. March 2008 @ 16:46 |
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Ain't ever going to happen this!
Sony placing/supplying hardware in Microsoft kit? I don't think so.
Sony/PS3 would not want this competition, so would not promote this from within. Nice as it reads, I'm willing to state this will never happen - no matter the $$$'s Sony could make.
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7. March 2008 @ 17:06 |
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it might happen for a LOT of money
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aznsai
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7. March 2008 @ 17:09 |
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An external drive can and most likely happen.
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7. March 2008 @ 17:13 |
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Originally posted by milkyoreo:
it might happen for a LOT of money
yes, most certainly, MicroSoft is never shy of coughing up cash..remember the GTA 4 deal!
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7. March 2008 @ 17:39 |
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It wouldn't be much competition if Sony get's a percentage of every 360 sold plus it would drive down game costs since developers would be working on the same format for both platforms. MS might have to introduce a new version of the 360 though if they decide on internal...shit, the more I think about it, the more complicated it seems to get.
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7. March 2008 @ 17:54 |
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This is the kind of news that will piss off a TON of people should it actually happen. Not so much for an external Blu-ray player.. But to make an INTERNAl Blu-ray drive for the 360 has only a few developmental benefits for the PS3 gamers.
YES it would allow developers to project LARGER games on both consoles... but who is to say that the development kits for the 360 would work right away.. and you'd still have to account for the systems different hardware (non-optical drive hardware) and the fact that they process infomation differently as they are made by separate entities.
This would also allow Sony exclusives to FIT onto a single 360 disk. That way you wouldn't need a LOST ODYSSEY version of MGS4. And lets be honest... size is a MAJOR factor in why the 360 has only 2 options for multi platform releases.
1) reduce the games size to fit a 9.5 Gig DVD
2) not have the game at all.
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7. March 2008 @ 18:05 |
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Wow, why would Microsoft want to turn their 360 into a ps3?
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ikari
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7. March 2008 @ 18:09 |
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You never know, MS could have been waiting for either HD-DVD or Blu-Ray to win. This way they could put in the "format war" winner's drive in the 360.
However, if MS did that, there would be a lot of upset people with "obsolete" consoles. As several people have already posted, it will most likely be an external drive add-on.
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7. March 2008 @ 18:40 |
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It will have to be external for one simple fact. If MS went and screwed everyone over by putting in an internal blu-ray and have blu-ray games then I could see a large portion of sales dropping. I'm pretty sure microsoft isn't going to replace all the drives in all th current 360's either.
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7. March 2008 @ 18:43 |
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My question is who is doing the pushing?
Is Sony trying to market BluRay to Microsoft, or is Microsoft trying to acquire it for their consoles.
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7. March 2008 @ 18:47 |
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From xbox - scene an update of this article :
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But a Microsoft rep said in a phone interview with Next-Gen that that is "not at all" the case, and Microsoft will "remain focused on the games" for the console, not its movie playback capabilities.
"There are no plans to introduce Blu-ray," said the spokesperson.
So yer, its not gonna happen.
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7. March 2008 @ 19:01 |
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Originally posted by kingrob:
Ain't ever going to happen this!
Sony placing/supplying hardware in Microsoft kit? I don't think so.
Sony/PS3 would not want this competition, so would not promote this from within. Nice as it reads, I'm willing to state this will never happen - no matter the $$$'s Sony could make.
Uhh... Why not? Lmao
If their "rival" M$ is willing to fund Sony's PS3 and Blu-Ray development by purchasing some BR technology, why not? Money talks.
I can see many Fanboys being heartbroken when they find a SONY BR player on their beloved Holy M$ 360 lol ;)
Pointless, I know, but there are people that loyal. I think it may even persuade others to buy a PS3 instead future-wise. Why buy 2 things when you can get it all in one for cheaper, right? But it will probably end up like their HD-DVD add-on and sell poorly.
Most 360s don't even have HDMI so how does that work out anyways?
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7. March 2008 @ 19:03 |
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Microsoft isn't stupid enough to release an internal DRM-Ray drive.
External? Due to a 3% attachment rate of the HD DVD drive Microsoft already said "No go".
Again, forget about an internal drive as well, since M$ didn't even bother trying to do a internal HD DVD despite "backing" the format, that should be enough of a hint to extinguish rumors of a internal DRM-Ray drive.
Peace
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7. March 2008 @ 19:49 |
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Originally posted by Pop_Smith:
Again, forget about an internal drive as well, since M$ didn't even bother trying to do a internal HD DVD despite "backing" the format, that should be enough of a hint to extinguish rumors of a internal DRM-Ray drive.
Peace
MS acted smarter and had their a$$ covered,
They have made money with external HD-DVD drives and at the same time no one would accuse them cause they have picked the wrong format if HD-DVD loose the war, as happened.
Thats 1 reason why they never try to make a 360 with internal HD-DVD.
The other reason is, that this was not their war, so why risk a release a 360 with HD-DVD drive?
BD from day 1 had more company's supporting it and PS3 has much more funs than x-box.
If there was a 360 version with an internal HD-DVD now, most likely would be doomed that BD won the war.
Why MS risk there console reputation and sales (A.K.A. Hundreds of Millions $$$) for Toshiba?
MS acted right and if they can pay sony for BD, i am sure that will boost 360 sales.
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7. March 2008 @ 19:57 |
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just...AWESOME!!
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7. March 2008 @ 20:12 |
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@popsmith
I like that DRM-ray drive, thats exactly what it is. You've hit the nail on the head. I just can't see MS playing into sony's Hands. They might introduce an external add on, for movies, but don't see it happening for drm-ray games. How many drm-ray games does sony have out now anyway? This console war is almost half over, and can't think of one drm-ray game. I don't own a P$3, and won't ever, so I don't know for sure. Thats just my opinion, I could be wrong. How much time and cost would be involved in a 30-50GB game anyway? It would be interesting to see if any games ever get released on a bluray disc that actually take up much more space than a standard dual layer dvd given the current technology.
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7. March 2008 @ 20:35 |
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hope it external i will buy one if it is and if it's internal drive there will be millions skrewed who allready bought xbox360 like myself we will see may not get the blu-ray addon because hddvd addon didn't sale very good forgot where i readed it oh well.
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7. March 2008 @ 20:39 |
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Ouuuuuuuu...... This Is Scary Stuff Indeed.....
Microsoft and DRM-Ray lying in bed with each other?
Life here on Earth as we know it may have just ended. Two Global Monoliths, each Hell Bent on World Domination forming an Evil Pact. We mere mortals don't stand a chance, now. [sobbing, wrenching hands; despairing]
The skies shall split asunder, the Earth will tremble, Lava shall erupt from every mountain, the Oceans will swell - The End is 'Nigh, my friends!
An Unholy Alliance of MicroSoft & Sony! ** OH MY J---S GOD! Help! Help! Save Us!
(How long do you suppose we still have, Pop_Smith?) <hee-hee>
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7. March 2008 @ 20:44 |
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Originally posted by Pop_Smith:
Microsoft isn't stupid enough to release an internal DRM-Ray drive.
Nope.. but at the same time still stupid enough to release an external HD-DRM drive. (thats right, HD-DVD's also have DRM.... I'm sorry.. I mean HAD DRM)
Originally posted by llongtheD:
It would be interesting to see if any games ever get released on a bluray disc that actually take up much more space than a standard dual layer dvd given the current technology.
Many of the current cross-platform titles already do by 2-3 gigs minimum. Like I mentioned before, Lost Odyssy is 4 DVD's long. Uncharted: Drake's Fortune filled almost 25gigs and Naughty Dog (the developer) has already stated that it would not be possible on the 360 from a game-size standpoint and ALSO on the processing front.
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7. March 2008 @ 21:25 |
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if the hd disc idea (ie. blu-ray) actually takes off,
microsoft will definitely have an blu-ray drive...
as an external add-on.
they would never make it an internal drive,
regardless of what their competition might want you to think.
they don't want to be the victim of class-action lawsuits
from 3+ years of 360 buyers who can't play new games.
if blu-ray becomes the standard for games,
the next microsoft console will have one built-in.
then maybe i can finally own an xbox,
because ms effed this one up coming out a year early.
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7. March 2008 @ 21:41 |
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if it was external, all would win! m$ could keep its main xbox 360 cost down while letting users who want blu ray have it & sony would be pushing more BR units while not directly helping M$ compete with PS3! Sony can still have there $400 PS3 w/BR in it & M$ could have its more expensive counsel with BR add on ! i se a total win win here with it being external. sorry about the typing i have a baby in n arm sleeping!
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7. March 2008 @ 22:02 |
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It would be interesting to see if any games ever get released on a bluray disc that actually take up much more space than a standard dual layer dvd given the current technology.
There are actually rumors that MGS4 barely fit into a 50GB Blu-ray disc. Must be all that uncompressed audio and video...
http://ps3.qj.net/Hideo-Kojima-Blu-ray-d...g/49/aid/114921
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7. March 2008 @ 22:12 |
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i didnt read all the comments. but if i sound like a repeat so be it.
this blu-ray drive should be reserved for the next xbox not this one.
alienating current customers with a new medium for media is not a good idea.
not everyone has the money to shell out for a blu-ray drived xbox so they can play the newer games that can only run on it. and i sincerely doubt companies are gonna press DVD and BLU-RAY versions for the same system.
that to me wouldnt be good or profitable business for the production companies making games.
i think the 360 will make dude on current Media till the next generation of systems are ready. prolly 2010 we'll see new hardware. maybe 2011
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7. March 2008 @ 22:14 |
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Originally posted by canuckerz:
My question is who is doing the pushing?
Is Sony trying to market BluRay to Microsoft, or is Microsoft trying to acquire it for their consoles.
I would bet my bottom dollar that sony is pushing this. Blu Ray Doesn't really benefit M$ because they're not going to release games on it when most systems are don't have blu Ray. Sony wants to get as many blu Ray players out there as possible because they think this is the future of their company, PS3 and 360 are just pawns.
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