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Valkyr47
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25. March 2008 @ 18:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I was under the belief that the slower your burn the DVD, the better the results will be. My DVD Media is rated for 16X and I burn at 4X

the results have been great so far except for 1 or 2 movies, both of which have been known to have issues though, including 3:10 to Yuma

IF things are going fine you might be wondering why i even ask, but i saw someone post in another topic that there is such a thing as burning too slow... does that hold any truth or is burning at quarter of the media's rated speed just fine? better too slow than too fast right?
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25. March 2008 @ 19:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I burn all my dvds at 4x on 8x TY media. No probs

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26. March 2008 @ 00:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Half speed seems to be a 'Sweet Spot' (burn 8X media @ 4X, 16X @ 8X, 4X @ 2.4X, etc.). A lot depends on the drive, too. If you burn too slow, the laser isn't moving fast enough for the surface of the disk (or the other way around, depending how you look at it).
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26. March 2008 @ 08:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ok, well i already have backed up copies from burning at quarter speed (4x) that i would prefer to not have to backup and burn all over again, so i have a question

If i wanted to try to re-burn them at 8x to see if they have better results, could i simple take one of my backups, copy the data to my hard drive and simple reburn them from there at the higher speed? will that work? that would be much quicker than going back to the basement, digging through my boxes finding the original, then shrinking and burning
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26. March 2008 @ 10:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yes you can simply re-burn the movies easily, from the shrunk/saved movie folders on your hard drive;

as to burn speeds i personally burn all 16x discs at 8x and all 8x discs at 8x. Long ago (before 16x discs appeared) i was a staunch 4x burner, ie 8x discs burnt at 4x, though that was due to the fact that my hardware was incapable of 8x burning



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26. March 2008 @ 10:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
right but i always deleted the files from my comp after burning them

so can i simply take the shrunk files from the actual backup DVD, copy them BACK to my pc's hard drive, then burn at 8x?

im just wondering if its worth doing, if everything is going fine with 4x
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26. March 2008 @ 11:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yes you can copy the files back to the pc, via windows explorer copy/paste even or whichever way you're happiest with;
if you're happy with 4x that's fine, though for 16x discs it's better to burn at say 6x or 8x, too slow on higher speed discs can apparently give worse results. Depends what you read and where.



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27. March 2008 @ 19:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Crap media:16x Prodisc/Cmags/MBI/and a ton of others- Slower the better and I burn them at 4x.

Decent media: 16x Ritek/Ricoh/Sony- 8x no trouble but 4x is very reliable.

Quality media: Taiyo Yuden and Verbatim: You can increase that speed. From the results of my scans with MCC-004 verbs, 8x and 12x yeild the lowest PIE/PIF errors. The scans of the 4x burns,those PIE/PIF errors soared. Burning the MCC-004 at 2.4x, too many crc errors and those backups were unrippable.

The quality of the dvd-rw drive can factor in as well.

Quality media and Quality drive= Faster burn speeds.

Use a scanning test like Kprobe/Plextools/Dvdinfopro/or Nero speed test to see how your backups score. Keep burn speed at whatever the best results were. Switching media,you'll have to test burn some of them as well to find the best performing burn speed for your setup.

could i simple take one of my backups, copy the data to my hard drive and simple reburn them from there at the higher speed? will that work?

Maybe?

Re-ripping your backups is a pretty good test to see how good your backups are. You can do it with your normal setup,just abort before the burn. If you can successfully rip it back onto the harddrive,then the backup/s should be ok. Get the dreaded crc error during the rip,and you got major issues with that backup. Better yet,if you got dual drives: Rip and burn on the fly,but use a Dvd-RW disc.

A faster way to re-rip your backups for extra copy/ies would be ImgBurn.




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27. March 2008 @ 19:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
No one short of God could have said it better than Saugmon ^^^^^^

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