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USB writer & CD-R, but won't burn
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7. April 2008 @ 16:28 |
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After some years, I just now tried burning a MSWMM project to a CD-R disc, but when I clicked Finish Movie > Save to CD, somewhat understandably MSWMM's prompt says a recordable CD drive was not detected.
Embarrassing to admit I'm hazy about CD write caching which enables a system to write CD/VCD's, but too long since burning any VCD's and I've removed CD related stuff as I had too many issues burning DVD's.
Anyway, when I've a CD-R inserted in the drive (a reliable HQ USB super writer), the CD's name appears and My Computer lists the drive type as CD Drive, even listing a CD's used space and files system (so far so good).
But inserting proven blank media (used em before), My Computer view no longer lists the CD's format or even used/free space.
Back when thngs worked w/CD's, I seem to recall opening the writer's drive properties, a tab labeled "recording" afforded the Enable CD recording on this drive check box, but that's gone. Now just general, autoplay and hardware tabs.
Obliviously need to re-install something so system can again write (write cache) and allow VCD burning.
Prefer not using DragnDrop again, and seems that my VAIO (or XP Home)had something afforded write caching, but I can't recall what it was.
So that's where I'm stuck.
Apologies for appearing lazy by not google or forum drilling, but I did make a stab at it before posting here (as I do have some pride, just not a lot of patience and/or surviving brain cells).
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10. April 2008 @ 19:51 |
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You can uninstall the controller and reboot, that will install the drivers.
My Computer > Properties > Hardware > Device Manager,
Expand the IDE controllers, select the secondary channel(I'm assuming the cd burner is on the secondary)right click and uninstall - then reboot.
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11. April 2008 @ 02:35 |
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Thanks for replying. Since posting, duh, I found that a video application of mine (DVD MovieFactory) afforded burnng a VCD.
Apologies for prolonging this string, but as for uninstalling "the controller" and whether its appropriate and still applies to my OS's circumstances, I'm uncertain.
Right now I've ripped out my laptop's on-board burner and I'm using a plugn play external read-writer for all my burning, ref. DVD/CD-ROM drive, HL-DT-ST DVDRAM GSA-5160D USB Device (ie; a plugnplay Super Writer).
It seems I've always had some issues with this laptop listing the DVD/CD drive (as viewed in My Computer > Drives with Removable Storage).
By default the burner (drive) "type" always lists itself as "CD Drive", same thing when I insert a DVD disk.
Occaisionally the drive name will list as something like 'DVD-RAM' and seems it did that when a DVD played every once in a while, but currently when I insert a DVD, the drive name lists as the DVD title and the drive type still lists as CD Drive, plus when I try to get the media to autoplay, my DVD app (WinDVD5) no longer lists, just WMP lists as option for playing movies. Ahhhhg.
Except for using moviefactory, I can't get the burner to make VCD's, because as mentioned, I'm pretty certain that has to do with no longer having any CD packet writing program which I think enables VCD's to be burnt, no?
So any help getting WinDVD5 back onto the autoplay list appreciated and any help figuring out what the snafu is with how the burner is being detected/listed in My Computer, is really appreciated.
Again, thanks for the reply thus far. If this's too complicated, I understand and will chew on what you offered thus far.
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tripplite
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12. April 2008 @ 00:02 |
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well before you go any further do what attar said...except he forgot to mention that you need to boot into safe mode then uninstall the drivers:)
BOOT INTO SAFE MODE (JUST DO IT!!)
1)Start>My computer> right click >properties
2)hardware tab
3)device manager
4)CD-ROM/DVD drives (names will differ) right click uninstall drive
5) restart into windows
6)upon login you will prompted to install new hardware if not go start>control panel> (make sure your in category view, left hand corner box to enable this)> "Printers and other hardware" >left hand corner "Add hardware", not "ADD PRINTER"
once done you may reboot or not
there are many things that can be done to correct this issue, dont worry we got you cover:)
-tripplite
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12. April 2008 @ 15:25 |
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Errantly posted, please see next string.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 18. April 2008 @ 20:07
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12. April 2008 @ 15:29 |
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"IDE Controller", duh, thanks.
Apologies for "going further" w/o yet performing the generously and repeatedly offered recommendations, but if it makes a hill of beans, if of any consequence, might I add my noticing just now that the dev' mgr correctly lists the "DVD/CD-ROM Drive", and only the My Computer>Windows folder lists the device as "CD Drive".
Likely normal, circumstance expectable, I dunno.
Lastly (honest) if overlooked/ignored for reasoning (eg; individual issues should be posted separately, or '"we'll get to that if it doesn't automatically correct itself"'), but if otherwise, hope that but one added reply to this post's string might (where/if needed) regard re-storing/adding the missing optional 'open with' auto-play settings for installed applications (ie; WinDVD5).
And thanks for correctly assuming that after my physically removing the on-board read-writer, I did at least know enough to remove/uninstall that (and it's drivers) from the list of devices in dev' mgr.
Perhaps that's when one should have also removed all other DVD/CD Drives which would have allowed for new hardware wiz' to have better completed the appropriate systems adjustments (thus avoiding the now necessity of uninstalling/reinstalling IDE Controller/drivers and DVD/CD-ROM drive/drivers)?
Whatever, not escalating string to brain surgery, just tossed that out there in that so's to maybe determine what it is we're basically surmizing that the issue seems to be classified as.
Hopefully if affording one more reply, the string will resultin a reply of 'thanks, things are working much better again'.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 18. April 2008 @ 20:10
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tripplite
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5. May 2008 @ 19:25 |
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lol not sure here buddy are you still having issues?
-tripplite
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5. May 2008 @ 23:11 |
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Yes, still issues, but at least there seems to be a light at the end of the tunnel.
It looks like I'm going to have to hack the registry (fix what hogware, poor uninstallers, no uninstallers, and 1% chance what of malware might have contributed to the remaining problem of getting autoplay to work again.
But I haven't yet heard form anyone both experienced enough and willing to go live (eg; yahoo messenger voice or even my phoning them), hold my hand as I go thru my list of registry keys/values.
I've resolved (in lieu of some opinions to reinstall the sys') towards 'simply removing the old burner's entries, assure the current burner's entries are correct/complete, and then if still needed, tackling autoplay/run entries.
But thanks for thinking about me.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 5. May 2008 @ 23:16
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tripplite
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5. May 2008 @ 23:24 |
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Quote:
poor uninstallers, no uninstallers
those can cause dead registry entries but nothing so serious as to cause windows issues, maybe a problem with installing the software again but thats as deadly as it'll get:)
lol just noticed you open doce threads:)
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/660668
-tripplite
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5. May 2008 @ 23:49 |
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When you refer to Windows issues, beside that being very probably an oximoron in itself, but I'm not sure I catch your drift there.
I'm seeing what I consider few to no Windows issues, save possibly for one or two involving what I've come to strongly suspect is nothing more than one, a device detection issue (based on an old burner's registry entries) and two, possibly (I'll know thereafter) an autoplay snafu, no doubt if still an issue, caused by my once disabling it in the registry.
But again, I really appreciate your hanging in there with me.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 5. May 2008 @ 23:50
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7. May 2008 @ 06:09 |
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Good news. Got the burner to autoplay a DVD in WinDVD5's player!
Seems like at least 3 of the 4 registry values I modified did the trick.
3 of 4 because one modified value changed itself back to what it was before, while all the rest remain modified as I'd set them.
Still need to check on whether or not my setting WindDVD5's "Open in full screen" might have had any effect on it finally opening when I'd inserted a DVD in the 'burner'.
Making progress and narrowing down the causes for remaining disk issues (why burner lists as CD Drive unless it's online and powered up before booting up the laptop where only then it will list as "DVD-ROM".
Will post back with the list of changes I made (when I get some rest).
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 7. May 2008 @ 06:13
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8. May 2008 @ 08:18 |
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Here's the order changes were made:
Step 1 -
Ref. support.microsoft.com/kb/330135, regards 'AutoRun play feature or AutoPlay feature does not work when you insert a CD-ROM in the drive'. My then/now registry read/reads...
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Services\CDRom
Autorun REG_DWORD 0x00000001(1)
<This's what it's supposed to be so no edit needed>
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\
Winlogon
allocatecdroms REG_SZ 0x00000000(0)
<Edited it to 1, yet it reverted back to 0 after booting, but the
recording tab still lists in drive properties window, so I'm guessing that 0 was/is a disable for the on-off setting for network transport and editing it to 1 simply allows for the other edits to 'plug in' before it then default re-sets to 0 and as such is some sort of lock to assure no changes can be made until its first set to 1?>
Note the article then goes on to edits intended to assure 'the' burner's identification w/in the system, but they're too risky to do right now, especially since if editing them with the old burner still in the system, could likely cause my system to not re-boot and if such were to happen, I'd currently be unable to use my recovery disk to re-boot (see explaination at end of steps 1-3).
Step 2 -
Ref. support.microsoft.com/kb/316529 regarding 'CD-R drive or CD-RW drive is not recognized as a recordable device') My then/now registry read/reads...
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Exp
lorer\CD
Burning\Drives\Volume{11379c23-2f1d-11db-ae46-080046e84a0b}
Drive type REG_DWORD 0x00000003(3)
<chgd it to initially to "2" (ie; CD-RW) which immediately restored recording tab, even after re-boot it remained as 0x00000001(1), so maybe 0x0000003(3) meant 'disable Autoplay on network drives and CD-ROM drives'?>
But later something caused the value change back to 3. So I tried editing it to "1" (ie; CD-R) instead of 2 as in my first edit, and then (this time) I re-booted w/burner still online, then thereafter the edit stayed at 1 (at least until the entire key disappeared after I edited as in step 3).
And at that point (step 3), autoplay now work properly even after re-booting and it no longer matters how the drive is introduced to the system, as either way the drive finally always is list naming as DVD-ROM (and when using CD media list names as CD Drive which I think should be reading as CD-ROM, not CD Drive). Significant joy anyway.
Step 3 -
Ref. previously mentioned step 1's article 330135 (regarding the drive's "naming" issue). In that the recording tab had been restored, I chose to only edit only this last key's value and hold off with the article's remaining key edits as those would likely only add to the issue of the old burner still being in the registry.
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Pol
icies\Explorer
NoDriveTypeAutoRun REG_DWORD 0x00000000(0)
<Chg'd value to 91, but overlooked re-checking its value until after booting, then/now still reads as 0x00000091(145) I think 91 means enabled for CD & ZIP/USB removables and 145 is milliseconds, and 0x00000000(0) apparently meant disable autorun on all drives?>
As for why I have to hold off on value editing burner specific keys that the remainder of 330135's 'drive misidentification' article suggests and/or if needed, why I'm holding off on possibly installing 817357's hotfix (ref potential background applications interfering with drive identification), I've just now realized that I have no means to use a recovery disk (should anything cause the system to not boot up.
And that's due to I can't access the Bios to delete the old burner's designation for drive booting (and re-setting it to use the USB burner) because I'm locked out of the Bios.
And as I'm uncertain what removing my CMOS will actually result in as best case scenario might be that it re-sets the Bios and clears any password rqmt, but worst case is if it completely clears all Bios settings and opens to a blank Bios then requiring me to manually fill in all settings (which I'm incapable of doing), then I'd be left with a non-bootable machine w/no way to set the Bios for booting thru my USB drive (as it's still set for booting off my removed burner's drive).
Since I can't further edit changes having an expectable high risk than the minor one's I've been doing, I'm left now to asking Sony for the backdoor password for my Bios.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 8. May 2008 @ 08:58
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29. May 2008 @ 17:21 |
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Phew. Finally recalled my BIOS password.
But now I'm not finding anyone that knows if an exact image of a CD-ROM recovery disk (from a CD_ROM CDFS formatted CD disk) can be used for recovery where the CD-ROM was copied onto a factory CDFS formatted pen drive.
The format matches the original format of the actual CD-ROM disk and "all" files from the CD-ROM copied just fine, but before I dare try using it (just to see if it works), first I'd need someone to help me reset the BIOS to use the pendrive for emergency booting.
That's beyond my competance, so anyone (hopefully) helping needs to be sure we're on the same page. I only want to change the BIOS settings for 'emergency boot ups', not for normal boot ups.
I'm running a Phoenix R0110X1 BIOS, so assumedly only someone familiar with it (and configuring BIOS's for emergency boots) is needed.
Shouldn't have to mention that the BIOS would also have the existing
'emergency boot' drive 'unlisted' or whatever.
I'd prefer to go this route for two reasons. First a pendrive's much more reliable and less prone to damage than a flimsy media disk , and secondly, soon I'll be reinstalling a replacement (new) for the OEM's optical drive, so I don't want to mess witht the BIOS or the registry any more than necessary (ie; old OEM burner reg' entries are still in place even thought it's been jerked out for now and it's probably easiest, safest and best to avoid re-setting up the registry for the OEM's onboard burner).
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29. May 2008 @ 18:39 |
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The 'Boot' settings in the BIOS, would have to offer 'USB' booting as an option and the boot sequence (hard drive, floppy, cd, usb) would be set manually at the time it was required - but I must add that I have no experience with recovery disks - when things get to that stage, I reinstall from the installation CD and start afresh.
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