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many DVDs don't play, freeze up
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JRinGA
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15. June 2008 @ 23:12 |
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Hi all, new to this forum and possibly asking something that has been addressed before. If so I apologize and ask for kindness up front.
I back up movies with DVD Shrink no problem, then burn to disc, apparently successfully, with Easy DVD Creator. Many of these movies will load to menu and start just fine then at some point will freeze frames, jerk forward, and even freeze completely. I have better success playing them back on my computer than on DVD machines, but the problem can occur even on computer playback. Very frustrating and defeats the whole purpose of making a backup copy if I can't play it.
Any thoughts or links to threads already discussing this? Thanks in advance.
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16. June 2008 @ 02:31 |
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16. June 2008 @ 08:16 |
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^^All you need is right there^^
Use the right programs
Use good media
Don't burn too fast
Don't multitask while you burn.
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16. June 2008 @ 12:44 |
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JRinGA
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6. September 2008 @ 15:10 |
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A belated and very big thanks to all for responding. I have moved on considerably from when I asked the original question, and I am facing a new problem but no longer under the topic of DVD Shrink. I'll explain here and if anyone can answer, great, and/or if you can kindly direct me to where this would be better to post, just as great.
After following the links in 7th's sig and much more reading, I migrated to DVDFab for ripping and ImgBurn for writing. Followed advice to use only Sony, Verbatim, or Taiyo Yuden (I got Sony DVD+R 16x), updated firmware, burn at low speeds (tried 2.4x/4x/6x/8x), target 4300MB, don't multitask when burning (in fact I usually re-boot first to keep the RAM clean), etc. And when I am successful at burning a disc, it works fine in all players.
Problem is, 90+% of attempts to write with ImgBurn result in an I/O error. This error occurs a few seconds after starting the burn -- if it is able to load the device buffer then it continues all the way to a successful burn. I could post a log if needed. Advice I got on the ImgBurn forum is to try Verbatims. I don't know if that is targeted advice or just stabbing in the dark. I just bought a bunch of Sonys and would prefer not to have to buy more discs as a trial-and-error approach to troubleshooting the problem.
Aren't the Sony discs good enough? Is this a media problem, a drive problem, or a software problem? Would I have better success with different software for burning?
Much gratitude in advance for any and all input.
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10. September 2008 @ 18:23 |
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Could you Post a failed imgburn log?
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JRinGA
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10. September 2008 @ 19:25 |
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Thanks for following up. Here is a recent log:
I 19:18:01 ImgBurn Version 2.4.2.0 started!
I 19:18:01 Microsoft Windows Vista Home Basic Edition (6.0, Build 6000)
I 19:18:01 Total Physical Memory: 2,094,516 KB - Available: 1,115,296 KB
I 19:18:01 Initialising SPTI...
I 19:18:01 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 19:18:01 Found 1 DVD±RW!
I 19:18:27 Operation Started!
I 19:18:27 Building Image Tree...
I 19:18:43 Checking Directory Depth...
I 19:18:43 Calculating Totals...
I 19:18:43 Preparing Image...
I 19:18:43 Checking Path Length...
I 19:18:43 Contents: 9 Files, 2 Folders
I 19:18:43 Size: 4,508,889,088 bytes
I 19:18:43 Sectors: 2,201,606
I 19:18:43 Image Size: 4,509,499,392 bytes
I 19:18:43 Image Sectors: 2,201,904
I 19:18:47 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:00:19
I 19:18:47 Operation Started!
I 19:18:47 Source File: -==/\/[BUILD IMAGE]\/\==-
I 19:18:47 Source File Sectors: 2,201,904 (MODE1/2048)
I 19:18:47 Source File Size: 4,509,499,392 bytes
I 19:18:47 Source File Volume Identifier: TREASURE ISLAND
I 19:18:47 Source File Application Identifier: IMGBURN V2.4.2.0 - THE ULTIMATE IMAGE BURNER!
I 19:18:47 Source File Implementation Identifier: ImgBurn
I 19:18:47 Source File File System(s): ISO9660, UDF (1.02)
I 19:18:47 Destination Device: [1:0:0] PIONEER DVD+-RW DR-K17Y 0.96 (E:) (ATA)
I 19:18:47 Destination Media Type: DVD+R (Disc ID: SONY-D21-00) (Speeds: 2.4x, 4x, 6x, 8x)
I 19:18:47 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104
I 19:18:47 Write Mode: DVD
I 19:18:47 Write Type: DAO
I 19:18:47 Write Speed: 16x
I 19:18:47 DVD+R Reserve Track: No
I 19:18:47 Link Size: Auto
I 19:18:47 Test Mode: No
I 19:18:47 OPC: No
I 19:18:47 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 19:18:47 Filling Buffer... (40 MB)
I 19:18:47 Writing LeadIn...
W 19:18:59 Failed to Write Sectors 768 - 799 - Reason: Unknown (Internal Target Failure) (0x44, 0xD9)
W 19:18:59 Retrying (1 of 20)...
W 19:19:00 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 19:19:00 Retrying (2 of 20)...
W 19:19:00 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 19:19:00 Retrying (3 of 20)...
W 19:19:00 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 19:19:00 Retrying (4 of 20)...
W 19:19:00 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 19:19:00 Retrying (5 of 20)...
W 19:19:00 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 19:19:00 Retrying (6 of 20)...
W 19:19:00 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 19:19:00 Retrying (7 of 20)...
W 19:19:00 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 19:19:00 Retrying (8 of 20)...
W 19:19:00 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 19:19:00 Retrying (9 of 20)...
W 19:19:00 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 19:19:00 Retrying (10 of 20)...
W 19:19:00 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 19:19:00 Retrying (11 of 20)...
W 19:19:00 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 19:19:00 Retrying (12 of 20)...
W 19:19:00 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 19:19:00 Retrying (13 of 20)...
W 19:19:00 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 19:19:00 Retrying (14 of 20)...
W 19:19:00 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 19:19:00 Retrying (15 of 20)...
W 19:19:00 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 19:19:00 Retrying (16 of 20)...
W 19:19:00 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 19:19:00 Retrying (17 of 20)...
W 19:19:00 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 19:19:00 Retrying (18 of 20)...
W 19:19:00 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 19:19:00 Retrying (19 of 20)...
W 19:19:00 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
W 19:19:00 Retrying (20 of 20)...
W 19:19:00 Retry Failed - Reason: Invalid Address For Write
E 19:19:03 Failed to Write Sectors 768 - 799 - Reason: Unknown (Internal Target Failure) (0x44, 0xD9)
E 19:19:03 Next Writable Address: 0
I 19:19:03 Synchronising Cache...
W 19:19:09 User opted to skip the 'Close Track/Session/Disc' functions.
E 19:19:09 Failed to Write Image!
E 19:19:09 Operation Failed! - Duration: 00:00:22
I 19:19:09 Average Write Rate: 0 KB/s (0.0x) - Maximum Write Rate: 0 KB/s (0.0x)
This attempt was at 16x (discs are rated up to that), but I have the same problem at other rated speeds (2.4, 4, 8). Would greatly appreciate any insights!
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11. September 2008 @ 09:38 |
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This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 11. September 2008 @ 09:41
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JRinGA
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11. September 2008 @ 13:02 |
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Yes, it is in a laptop, and indeed it does say max DVD+R write speed is 8x. I have been trying to write slower than that, but true using media rated higher. Perhaps that's the problem, thanks.
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11. September 2008 @ 13:17 |
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laptops aren't great for backing up DVDs
see if you can find a firmware update for the drive/burner to support the 16x media
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JRinGA
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11. September 2008 @ 13:27 |
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I've updated to the latest firmware.
Would an external burner work better? Any budget-friendly ones you could recommend?
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11. September 2008 @ 13:57 |
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JRinGA
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25. September 2008 @ 23:56 |
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Hi all, here's an update: I decided to try the hardware approach and bought a LiteOn external DVD burner (only $50 w/free shipping from NewEgg). Since then been burning to those Sony discs no problems. So thanks all for the help.
For anyone interested in Verbatim discs, I saw them (+ or -R, 16x) at OfficeMax on sale for $20 for 100, and they also send coupon cards to me in the mail, the most recent being $10 off a purchase of $30+, so you can basically get 200 Verbatim for 30 bucks or 15¢ apiece.
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26. September 2008 @ 00:55 |
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if you're backing up many DVDs a desktop is the best bet, glad the external drive worked. are the Verbatim MIT or MII ?
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JRinGA
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26. September 2008 @ 07:53 |
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Originally posted by ZoSoIV:
are the Verbatim MIT or MII ?
Sorry, don't know the answer, and don't even know what these initials refer to.
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26. September 2008 @ 08:04 |
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Made In Taiwan/Made In India. You can use dvd identifier to find the manufacturer of your disks.
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JRinGA
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26. September 2008 @ 09:10 |
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OK thanks. On the package it says made in Taiwan. Which is the preferred?
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26. September 2008 @ 09:52 |
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Taiwan is the preferred ones.
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JRinGA
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26. September 2008 @ 09:54 |
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OK then, sounds like a pretty good deal. I believe that OfficeMax sale ends tomorrow 9/27.
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