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Retro42
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17. June 2008 @ 12:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi all! I modded my Wii last week with a Wiikey Wiiclip, and started using it. But then I read a guide on GBATemp about burning discs. (Official thread about burning Wii software - GBAtemp.net) Now, this guide says I should use DVDInfoPro to scan my discs for PIPO errors, and that anything under 80% quality could hurt my Wii. It also recommends various types of disks to use, and that I should try a variety of speeds.

I have tried Verbatim DVD-RWs, Maxell DVD-Rs, HP Lightscribes, Sony DVD-Rs, and even some Cheap OfficeMax brands. I'm using an NEC-3500 burner, and I've tried a variety of firmwares. The highest score any of my discs have gotten is around 85% Quality on a Burn of Disc 1 of Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes. That's the only disc I've gotten above 70%.

I've been looking around, and while all boards note that you should use high-quality discs, (Verbatim seems to be suggested most frequently,) no one else mentions a quality score from this program. I don't want to damage my Wii, but I wonder if I'm wasting my time trying to create a "Perfect disc."

Aside from the Burn I mentioned earlier, I've burned a few games on the Cheap OfficeMax Media, (before I saw that thread,) and those worked, but it seemed like the Wii was struggling with them. The Sony disc that gave me 85% quality on MGS:TS is working just fine. Last night I got frustrated and just Burned the second disc of Twin Snakes on a Verbatim DVD-RW, and that worked just fine.

So, I guess the question is: Should I worry about that score, or just trust the media I've bought?
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SepticTnk
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17. June 2008 @ 12:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Here's something to consider - the drive you're testing on... if you never see a score of more than 85% - how do you know that the missing 15% isn't entirely down to the drive?
scubamage
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17. June 2008 @ 12:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've never put too much creedance in software like this. For instance, try reading the same disc twice - you will most likely get different numbers. Anything from floor vibrations (walking around while its reading) to ambient light and humidity can cause issues with cd reading. The best you can do is get a high quality burner (I highly reccomend plextor, their drives are expensive but work great - plus they feature flexible read/write lenses which can be used to read scratched pits from an angle - great for salvaging otherwise unreadable discs).

If you have good media, and a good burner, you shouldn't see any issues.

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 17. June 2008 @ 12:56

Retro42
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17. June 2008 @ 13:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for the prompt replies, guys, you've set my mind at ease.

Actually, now that I think about it, I'm pretty sure the one time I got the 85% was the time I wasn't anywhere near the computer while it was scanning. And my burner won't do the test, so I scan it on a drive that came with my desktop when I bought it like 4-5 years ago. So I am going to go forward with high-quality media and if it doesn't work well on the Wii, then I will try reburning it.
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booyoo
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17. June 2008 @ 18:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
A 4-5 year old drive is probably something to replace already, you can get a good drive like pioneer or plextor - I even use a cheaper samsung without a problem. Just burn at low speed (4X) and you'll be fine with verbatims, tdks etc.
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