Originally posted by Pop_Smith:

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Its nice to see price cuts coming.

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Originally posted by core2kid:

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Did Microsoft ever eliminate the RROD?

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Originally posted by ZeusAV:

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Their sales have been lagging behind competitors for much of the year so far. This price cut is much needed as it will help them try to counter the 80GB MGS PS3. Sony will probably follow with a price cut soon to counter. Nintendo is still raking in dough so they still don't need to drop the price of the Wii.

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Originally posted by hyper:

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While interest, investment, and sales of Nintendo Wii are through the roof, outspoken analyst Michael Pachter says traditional games will still grow, though not as fast as mainstream ones.
Less is more, says Nintendo Wii

Less is more, says Nintendo Wii

"The market for next-gen games is not close to exhaustion," says Pachter, when asked how promising of a future the Xbox 360 and PS3 have in a post-Wii world. "As consoles come down in price, the manufacturers will sell more of them, and the market will continue to expand."

According to Pachter, who in February was rated one of the two most reliable video game analyst by Kotaku, it's all about price. "Around 90% of last-generation console sales were made at the $199 price point or below," he says. "Only wealthy or hardcore gamers have purchased consoles so far, given that the PS3 is still $399, the 360 is still $349, and the Wii is still $249. When prices drop below $200 (probably in 2010), the mass market [for 360 and PS3] will emerge."

That said, the popular analyst expects the quantity of traditional games to remain constant as casual takes off. "The number of next-gen games will likely stay around present levels, primarily because of the cost of development. But I don't think that will impact sales much if we are offered only 200 next-gen games each year."

Pachter's remarks come as Grand Theft Auto IV did little to move Xbox 360 and PS3 hardware in the last two months, leading some to believe that if this year's best-selling game can't increase the sales of cutting edge consoles, the market for said machines may be tapped.

To date, Nintendo has sold an estimated 28 million Wiis worldwide in just 18 months, followed by Microsoft with 19 million Xbox 360s in 30 months, and Sony with 14 million PlayStation 3s in 18 months.

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Originally posted by Pop_Smith:

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Its nice to see price cuts coming.

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/agree price cuts are good for the consumer.

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Originally posted by ZeusAV:

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Their sales have been lagging behind competitors for much of the year so far. This price cut is much needed as it will help them try to counter the 80GB MGS PS3. Sony will probably follow with a price cut soon to counter. Nintendo is still raking in dough so they still don't need to drop the price of the Wii.

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a price cut is always good as it forces competitors to rethink their sales strategy, as you say though Nintendo is outselling both "more of the same" consoles by a landslide which is why neither sony or the vole mention the wii when quoting sales data, so Nintendo do not need to cut the price and sony's approach is flood every web page with the Ferrari, robin reliant analogy, or say well it must be better as it costs more! in regards to the ps3 outselling the 360 it should be constant as the 360 has been around for a lot longer and has a larger install base already so the ps3 should have constantly outsold the 360 (because it costs more it must be better) but this is not the case, it has been back and forth since the November release of the ps3.

RE: cost of hard drives is roughly $2 difference between the 20gig seagate slow 7200rpm used both in the ps3 and 360 and the 60/80/120 gig used now by both which is still a slow 7200rpm drive, and a computer/console is only as good as its weakest component so if it has a slow drive, limited ram or poor graphics this is where the benchmark is set.

The recent sales data showed that neither MGS or GTA4 managed to move any significant numbers of either format consoles, maybe ppl are waking up to the fact that graphics or pure power are not that important and gameplay is, simply copying PC titles does not guarantee sales when if you are a graphics whore as the PC titles are far superior in frame rate and resolution, both the 360 and ps3 look like a poor old mega drive in comparison.

Price not GTA IV to blame for slow PS3, 360 sales, says analyst

Originally posted by hyper:

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While interest, investment, and sales of Nintendo Wii are through the roof, outspoken analyst Michael Pachter says traditional games will still grow, though not as fast as mainstream ones.
Less is more, says Nintendo Wii

Less is more, says Nintendo Wii

"The market for next-gen games is not close to exhaustion," says Pachter, when asked how promising of a future the Xbox 360 and PS3 have in a post-Wii world. "As consoles come down in price, the manufacturers will sell more of them, and the market will continue to expand."

According to Pachter, who in February was rated one of the two most reliable video game analyst by Kotaku, it's all about price. "Around 90% of last-generation console sales were made at the $199 price point or below," he says. "Only wealthy or hardcore gamers have purchased consoles so far, given that the PS3 is still $399, the 360 is still $349, and the Wii is still $249. When prices drop below $200 (probably in 2010), the mass market [for 360 and PS3] will emerge."

That said, the popular analyst expects the quantity of traditional games to remain constant as casual takes off. "The number of next-gen games will likely stay around present levels, primarily because of the cost of development. But I don't think that will impact sales much if we are offered only 200 next-gen games each year."

Pachter's remarks come as Grand Theft Auto IV did little to move Xbox 360 and PS3 hardware in the last two months, leading some to believe that if this year's best-selling game can't increase the sales of cutting edge consoles, the market for said machines may be tapped.

To date, Nintendo has sold an estimated 28 million Wiis worldwide in just 18 months, followed by Microsoft with 19 million Xbox 360s in 30 months, and Sony with 14 million PlayStation 3s in 18 months.

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Originally posted by pensfan12 :

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the funny thing is you come across as a Wii supporter yet a month or so ago you were mocking it cause of 'anti-consumer' bullswha. Make your mind up? Which companies do you like?

The idiots you need to get a life and stop bitching about every little move a company does to make profit.

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Originally posted by core2kid:

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Did Microsoft ever eliminate the RROD?

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Nope not yet, while it is better than before with some of the current revisions it still has a high failure rate over the industry standard. Hopefully with the newer ones on the way those will be fine.

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Originally posted by tripplite:

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@ nobrainer dont worry buddy, we can destroy the corporations together LOL

@RROD issue: in order for m$ to fix the RROD issue they would have to release a completely new 360, which they wont do until the next generation, the fact of the matter is that the xbo360 is unable to vent all the heat it produces,

if you ever opened one up you'd see that there is a 2 inch gap between the heat sink and fans, in addition there is capcitators and roms in the way:(

i dont understand at all how M$ released the 360 with such an obvious flaw, they could have also used a slimmer type drive, which for the record doesn't break as easy (proven with nintendo wii type drive DBX)


a price drop is necessary for consumers to stay on the train, the 360 has been out the longest so its had the edge, by releasing the console so early they can make price drops sooner then the other company's to pull even more consumers in and possible get PS3/WII owners to double their arsenal at an affordable price

-tripplite

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Originally posted by tripplite:

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@RROD issue: in order for m$ to fix the RROD issue they would have to release a completely new 360, which they wont do until the next generation, the fact of the matter is that the xbo360 is unable to vent all the heat it producestripplite

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Originally posted by Matt355:

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from what I've seen on gizmoto and engaget, microsoft stated that its not the design, but the company they originally out source the manufacture of the chips to, that was the problem, so when the new gpu arrives in Sept the problem should be solved and i can buy another one, until then i also have a ps3 and most games are being produced for both the ps3, 360 and even the wii, I Got all three, the big advantage for the ps3, is that all the games for the ps3 are on blue ray allowing 25g of space for a game vs the normal 8g on a regular disc for the 360, now if the rumors are true and they do put a blue ray drive in the 360 before Xmas then the next halo should be even better then the last one, thats the game I've missed most since my xbox departed sniff sniff sob, or they need a really big drive like the new 500g samsung 2.5 that would allow you to buy games from xbox live directly to the hard drive like ware hawk on the ps3, then other then dvd's you wouldn't even need a drive, maybe offer 2 models, one with and one without a drive and pass on the savings.

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