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						24. January 2004 @ 09:34 | 
						 
							
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							hi folks I first want to compliment this forum and there moderators; a very useful and friendly source of info!!
 here is my question:
 I had read somewhere that if you trace a black magic marker around the thin edge of an unreadable cdr
 it may become usable, I thought it was a joke to make me feel foolish after i had done it; but i have found that every time i do this when nero refuses a disk it works!
 so the question is why the hell does this work????
 i can't wrap my head around it 
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						24. January 2004 @ 14:03 | 
						 
							
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							Quote:  hi folks I first want to compliment this forum and there moderators; a very useful and friendly source of info!! 
 here is my question: 
 I had read somewhere that if you trace a black magic marker around the thin edge of an unreadable cdr 
 it may become usable, I thought it was a joke to make me feel foolish after i had done it; but i have found that every time i do this when nero refuses a disk it works! 
 so the question is why the hell does this work???? 
 i can't wrap my head around it. 
  In all honesty I've never tried this method to get a cd-r that has CR errors (bad sectors). Another method I've used with great success is taking an unreadable cd-r and use CloneCD and use these settings to read the image to the hd.
 Read settings:
 1)Regenerate data sectors enabled
 2) Read sub-q channel data& audio at 1x
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 Write settings:
 1) Always close last session
 2) Write RAO-DAO at 4x 
 
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						24. January 2004 @ 14:11 | 
						 
							
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							Hmmm,
 
 I am intrigued..Quote: if you trace a black magic marker around the thin edge of an unreadable cdr 
 it may become usable
  that implies a CD-R that has already been written to.Quote: every time i do this when Nero refuses a disk it works!
  that implies it is a blank disk that is yet to be written, why else use Nero?
 
 So which is it?Quote: around the thin edge
  where exactly on the disk?
 How thick a line?
 
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							hi folks  thanks for your replies
 from your answers, I see i was not clear:
 I mean that ocasionally when I try to burn a blank CDR Nero will reject it as bad media or not see it at all, in that case i take a marker and on the thin edge (the outside edge)not the top or the face;
 completely cover it.
 after this th cd is recocnized,
 i have had it work on cds that were previously burnt as well, but the blanks always seem to work
 
 I still wonder why??
 it makes no sense to me lol 
							
						 
						
						
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						25. January 2004 @ 01:10 | 
						 
							
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							Ah,
 
 That will be worth a try sometime, if I ever get an unreadable disk.
 
 I have put a note in my "to be investigated" file.
 
 Cheers.
 
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							Just noticed that I have been made up from junior member to member. I thought I would catch you up, but GODDAMMIT, you're a senior member now. I think I should also be senior too!! Ho hum, lots more posts to write, more ridiculous discussions to contrive!
							
						 
						
						
						
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						25. January 2004 @ 04:20 | 
						 
							
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							Shoey
 Dr chips
 A pleasure to meet you!!
 pulsar you too however I don't have the slightest clue as to what you are refering to...
 
 so I must be mad as noone seems to have heard of this,
 but honestly it works,mebbe someday someone will find out and reply
 until that day THE MYSTERY CONTINUES......
 and i will continue to ponder lol 
							
						 
						
						
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						25. January 2004 @ 04:54 | 
						 
							
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							That's the point! 
							
						 
						
						
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						25. January 2004 @ 04:59 | 
						 
							
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							pulsar what's the point
 are you perhaps calling me clueless hmmm lol
 oh well to each there own 
							
						 
						
						
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							With the price of cd media as it is, is it really worth bothering about? Dvdx rescue is a good program to recover damaged discs. It does have it's limitations though! 
							
						 
						
						
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						25. January 2004 @ 05:02 | 
						 
							
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							The point I was making was that you were not supposed to understand what I was on about. Drchips & I have a very special & understanding relationship! Screaming off at a tangent is my speciality! 
							
						 
						
						
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							very true but you miss the point
 WHY DOES IT WORK?
 and sometimes you need to burn only have a disk or two on hand that Nero refuses to see
 then this is handy 
							
						 
						
						
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							Previous posts, of which there are numerous, stand as testimony to the bizzare way in which my brain functions. PS I would never accuse anybody of being "clueless", that would be terribly rude & show a great deal of ignorance on my part. We only aim to inform & entertain! 
							
						 
						
						
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						25. January 2004 @ 05:11 | 
						 
							
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							LOL pulsar OIC
 glad to meet you
 now do you know...
 WHY IT WORKS???
 it is drivin me nuts searched every damn place I can think of am I a lone voice in the wilderness 
							
						 
						
						
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							No clue as to why this would work, I have discovered that burning dvds & cds is indeed a strange & often frustrating pastime. I just accept that somethings work & others not. I guess all those lines of coding do not suit all of the systems all of the time. This phenomena can be annoying but I have learnt that you can overcome most problems due to the incredibly diverse nature of PCs. This is what makes the challenge of burning! 
							
						 
						
						
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							I heard that a line made by black magic marker on the inside ring of the disk, was used to circumvent a certain protection on a securom type protected disk, by doing this wipes a prewritten instruction or information on the disk leaving it open to access.
 how true it is? I dont know. I do know that when I tried it it made the disk unusable, good luck. 
							
						 
						
						
						
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