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New PS2 model coming to Russia, India
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article published on 5 July, 2008
Sony has announced that it will launching a fourth model of the PlayStation 2 in Europe and India on October 28th in an effort to "penetrate India's and Russia's burgeoning market for games."
Sony country manager Atindriya Bose says the launch will be simultaneous for the new markets and that the new model will be a slim model with built-in AC adapters.
"PS2 is an entry-level console, ... [ read the full article ]
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5. July 2008 @ 16:48 |
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hu! so we have the ps3 and developers committed to this format so why purchase a ps2?
do they still make top games for the likes of the dreamcast, ps1, sega saturn, xbox original, snes, megadrive, n64, GameCube?
what is the rhetoric from sony and co (paid bloggers) "why purchase a ps3 for ps2 titles", in regards to the removal of backwards compatibility and making even the software emulation version a buy time decision, if the ps2 has a viable future?
http://blogs.pcworld.com/gameon/archives/006378.html
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Maybe they aren't. Maybe they're planning to introduce a $300 model and add PS2 compatibility to the $400 model. Maybe they're in fact planning to discontinue a really dumb idea (making PS2 compatibility a buy-time decision) and add software compatibility to the $400 model. Maybe they'll even offer a system update to buyers of the existing 40GB model that up-flashes their systems.
You know PS2 compatibility is just a software trick in the 80GB model, right?
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5. July 2008 @ 18:19 |
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Unbelievable....the PS2 STILL makes good sales and in countries where they can maybe get a chance to enjoy something at a really low price you have to spin it and crap on it? Read the article, it states
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"We do not market it as a PS2 or PS3. It is the experience of the PS that we market. PS3 is for the next generation. People who are first timers in the gaming market want to pick up PS2 and experience that, before upgrading to PS3,"
Remember Sony doesn't drop support for their systems like others do, and since they have the PSP, PS2 & PS3 ALL WITH SUPPORT I think they know what they are doing better than what YOU think they are capable of doing....
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Originally posted by Oner:
Unbelievable....the PS2 STILL makes good sales and in countries where they can maybe get a chance to enjoy something at a really low price you have to spin it and crap on it?
Remember Sony doesn't drop support for their systems like others do, and since they have the PSP, PS2 & PS3 ALL WITH SUPPORT I think they know what they are doing better than what YOU think they are capable of doing....
hmm.
http://www.scee.presscentre.com/Content/...31&NewsAreaID=2
Originally posted by David Reeves Sony President of SCEE 23/02/2007:
?PS3 is first and foremost a system that excels in playing games specifically designed to exploit the power and potential of the PS3 system,? said David Reeves, President of SCEE. ?Games designed for PS3 offer incredible graphics quality, stunning gameplay and massively improved audio and video fidelity that is simply not achievable with PS and PS2 games. Rather than concentrate on PS2 backwards compatibility, in the future, company resources will be increasingly focused on developing new games and entertainment features exclusively for PS3, truly taking advantage of this exciting technology.?
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There really is no point in any further discussion with you....you just don't get it as ALL YOU DO is post NEGATIVE stuff no matter what in reference to Sony products. Utterly useless, and I always end up just wasting my time.
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Nobrainer i totally agree.
Oner, maybe its you that posts negative. For a moderator you sure do stir things up.
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Originally posted by lecsiy:
Nobrainer i totally agree.
Oner, maybe its you that posts negative. For a moderator you sure do stir things up.
Do you remember the first couple of months after the Wii and PS3 came out? Yeah, the PS2 outsold the Wii and PS3 for holiday sales. It is so far, the best selling console out their despite being how old it is. They're making profit for THREE systems, Nintendo TWO, Microsoft ONE (but I guess they're Windows OS could count as two).
The way which Sony devises its plans is odd but they know what they're doing. Why should they concentrate on PS2 BC? They have a console that needs as much support as it can take at the moment. IF the BC worked flawlessly from the start, as did PS BC on the PS2, there would be no lack of stellar support. All games would already work, and they could possibly make games run smoother and faster. But there had to be a slight problem where some games didn't work right. If nobrainer wanted to compare this to the 360, by all means do so. They didn't even want BC in their console to begin with, and you're bashing Sony nonstop.
By the way, the PSOne, a console released in 1995 continued support until just two years ago in 2006. The PS2, a console released in 2000 is still growing strong. A game such as Mercenaries 2 is being released on the PS2 along with the PS3. Why, because they know people will buy it for the PS2 this August. There are still millions who haven't switched yet. Even I just switched this year just because of GTA4 and MGS4 along with the novelty of playing games that either aren't available for PC, or are too much for my PC to handle.
Have I had one problem yet, no. Do I expect to in between the time of 3 years, maybe. In sport of this I bought extra warranty and Murphy's Law will hopefully take over from here. But beyond the console problems cliche, I don't regret buying a PS3. The 360 is fine without the RROD, which I doubt is completely relieved for people who are currently returning it for a refurbished console. If some fanboy wants to compare both consoles, I'm just gonna say, don't bother. It's been about one and a half years since all the consoles were released and they seam to balancing out. The Wii is on a scale of it's own. And for the 360 to have been out for this long and only managed to get sales of 19mil is pretty odd. This means people who want a specific console for their home, have or are choosing it. There's no more one sided shift to this console war like it was for the last two or three. That's more than a good thing, as it'll encourage a bit more competition.
I'd be amazed if you read all of that, seriosuly...
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You realize the only reason they are doing this is because the ps3 is failing and they are losing money and the only way to make that money back is by continuing support for the ps2
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6. July 2008 @ 01:03 |
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Originally posted by susieqbbb:
You realize the only reason they are doing this is because the ps3 is failing and they are losing money and the only way to make that money back is by continuing support for the ps2
no the reason they are doing this is as it stated in the article. why would you try and sell a $500 piece of equipment to a country that dont play many games, no person in india is gonna wake up one morning and having never played a video game decide they fancy dropping a crap loada money on a ps3. by selling a cheaper but still fairly good console to places like india you are allowing them a cheap way into gaming and hopefully creating future customers.
are they doing it for money, your damn right they are but whats wrong with that, i dont like sony trying to sue people over music but selling people a product is not quite the same is it.
they are still losing huge amounts of money on every ps3 sold, so if they wanna try and re market something older to a country that never really got interested about it the first time around then why not.
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@ rvinkebob
The ps2 was the best console because it had 100% support even though the dreamcast was a superior piece of hardware.
The reason for dropping backwards compatibility was that they were shifting their resources to the ps3 if the ps2 has a viable future it contradicts their statements about dropping backwards compatibility.
i would agree that the ps2 was great and i loved my ps1 also but this thread is about the ps2 having a viable future, now even though many times sony have stated they are shifting their resources towards the ps3 and rightly so, what's the point in supporting "ancient hardware" quoting the sony rhetoric of dropping ps3 backwards compatibility, you know the Ferrari rubbish they spew or the caveman quotes i'm sure you have heard them all. the games are going to dry up for the ps2, because studios are shifting focus to the new hardware, obviously. so other than the back catalogue they are in effect selling something that will be obsolete very soon, kinda like all the TV screens that are still being sold in shops that or are not HDCP DRM compliant, classic Manchurian Candidate strategy.
@ rvinkebob
btw what comparison did i ever make to the 360, oner is making comparisons with his "unlike others" statement. love the way you had to drop the red ring into this thread which has nothing to do with the vole in a thread that has nothing to do with anything other than "the ps2 having a VIABLE FUTURE". you do know that ALL games for the ps3 are made on a PC don't you rvinkebob, pc's are far more powerful than any of the consoles, even a home desktop type not even a gamers rig dude.
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Wow, some people really hate Sony.
All they are doing is selling a slightly modified PS2 in a new market. The PS2 has all of the bugs sorted out, is a solid machine, and has a much lower price point than the PS3...which makes sense for new gamers in poorer economies.
Why is that so hard to accept?
Are they doing it for more money? Well...yes.....that is what large companies do.
To be honest....I didn't know PS2's were NOT sold in India and Russia.
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Originally posted by lecsiy:
Nobrainer i totally agree.
Oner, maybe its you that posts negative. For a moderator you sure do stir things up.
I guess the fact that we have to deal with people who only spam articles with consistent misinformation and don't participate in other areas of aD has nothing to do with it huh? Again simply amazing...
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6. July 2008 @ 17:22 |
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Someone must have convinced him that all other companies except Sony are working for free and they don't sell their products they just give it away like a charity or something.
He reminds me some retarded people that they were actually believing that bi11 gate$ was the antichrist for real.lol
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I do not understand why u would make another ps2 model due to the fact that its already one of the most relaible consoles on the market, unless they want to put a lock and key on it soo it gets locked and can not b cracked. Why not just up the numbers of the current numbers that are already being produced.
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Did anyone read the article. It has a built in power supply. That is the modification. It is being sold to poorer countries. It has a massive catalog of games. I have a PS3 because i had a ps2. I got a ps2 because i had a ps1. They are just smart enough to get their foot in the door. One would have to be stupid to not understand this and a sore looser to argue negatively about this.
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I heard about this here actually the Christmas of 2007 as a rumor. I think that its good that they keep pushing the PS2 sales. Honestly, If the PSone, NES, SNES, Saturn ad CD Still sold, I would buy them. The PS2 has some great games with some still coming out and as a starter system or even a main system, its a great one. The PS1 and PS2 were the dominating consoles in the previous generation.
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7. July 2008 @ 23:15 |
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This is good news for Russia and India. No reason to bicker about it. More people in gaming is a good thing. I am sure they both have plenty of localizing teams on the ground ready to get to work.
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glassd wrote: Did anyone read the article. It has a built in power supply.
I read the article, but not your statement. This is not true. A power supply is not an AC adapter. The AC adapter is that little rectangular device on the second part of the slim PS2's power cord. The new form factor seems about the same and hopefully the less weight they described won't make it less durable (mine has fallen off the shelf a couple of times and works fine-it's so light already).
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glassd wrote: Did anyone read the article. It has a built in power supply.
I read the article, but not your statement. This is not true. A power supply is not an AC adapter. The AC adapter is that little rectangular device on the second part of the slim PS2's power cord. The new form factor seems about the same and hopefully the less weight they described won't make it less durable (mine has fallen off the shelf a couple of times and works fine-it's so light already).
I knew that.
aka no power brick right? Just the wire like the old PS2s.
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Originally posted by lecsiy:
Nobrainer i totally agree.
Oner, maybe its you that posts negative. For a moderator you sure do stir things up.
I guess the fact that we have to deal with people who only spam articles with consistent misinformation and don't participate in other areas of aD has nothing to do with it huh? Again simply amazing...
please stop the continual lies about me. if what i said was not the TRUTH remove the post but as it is an official SONY statement........
Originally posted by SDF_GR:
Someone must have convinced him that all other companies except Sony are working for free and they don't sell their products they just give it away like a charity or something.
He reminds me some retarded people that they were actually believing that bi11 gate$ was the antichrist for real.lol
omg please quit it with the personal attacks wtf is wrong with disabled ppl anyway?
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glassd wrote: Did anyone read the article. It has a built in power supply.
I read the article, but not your statement. This is not true. A power supply is not an AC adapter. The AC adapter is that little rectangular device on the second part of the slim PS2's power cord. The new form factor seems about the same and hopefully the less weight they described won't make it less durable (mine has fallen off the shelf a couple of times and works fine-it's so light already).
What do you think the AC adaptor does? It converts the incoming AC into 12/24vdc and supplies that power to the PS2. Hence, power supply.
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Originally posted by nobrainer:
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Originally posted by lecsiy:
Nobrainer i totally agree.
Oner, maybe its you that posts negative. For a moderator you sure do stir things up.
I guess the fact that we have to deal with people who only spam articles with consistent misinformation and don't participate in other areas of aD has nothing to do with it huh? Again simply amazing...
please stop the continual lies about me. if what i said was not the TRUTH remove the post but as it is an official SONY statement........
I wish we had a rolls eyes smiley on aD....anyway, I guess your saying the "truth" is
1) You haven't posted (on multiple occasions) old misinformation that has been disproven
2) You DO participate in many of the other aD forums
I guess the meaning of truth has changed or something?
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Originally posted by oner:
1) You haven't posted (on multiple occasions) old misinformation that has been disproven
2) You DO participate in many of the other aD forums
I guess the meaning of truth has changed or something?
ah so then you were just flaming me on this thread for "maybe" linking to older information on another thread ok that makes sense as the information i supplied on this topic came directly from sony europe and i am assuming the "miss information" you talk about was the remark i made about the blu-ray player the bdp-300 not being able to play bd-r, dvd-r, dvd+r media that i also took directly from the sony support pages.
so thank you for you opinion of myself i really appreciate being called a liar but when YOU make comments like this rant advising me to attack microsoft on a ps3 topic its not hard to understand your angle oner.
Sony shows PS3 production costs are dropping
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Damn you NEVER can just let ANY good Sony news or info go without saying some BS can you? FFS not every thing is "hate Sony" to everyone. You REALLY need to lay off your high horse....funny thing is we NEVER see you complaining about M$ and their BS? How about this one for starters
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MS selling old consoles as 'new'
French website logic-sunrise who is usually pretty clued up on these things indicates that Microsoft's new 199 Euro's Xbox 360 packs with 2 games and 2 wireless controllers are in fact OLD machines. After opening 10 of them, they found that the machines have been converted to new and all have non-falcon motherboards, old Hitachi 47 or Samsung MS25 drives and the repair center sticker on them. They suggest that you do not buy these packs and if you want a brand new machine, then fork out 199 Euro's for the arcade pack or 269 Euro's for the premium pack.
PLEASE STOP THE CONTINUAL PERSONAL ATTACKS.
ah here is the SONY support page with the BDP-S300 player.
http://esupport.sony.com/US/perl/model-documents.pl?mdl=BDPS300
click on Operating Instructions, read the PDF, page 6 "examples of a disc the player cannot play"
but that is me supplying miss information now isn't it.
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Originally posted by nobrainer:
PLEASE STOP THE CONTINUAL PERSONAL ATTACKS.
How about your own personal on attacks on the "13-year old schoolkids" in this forum?
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/680797
If you can't take it then don't dish it out.
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Originally posted by nobrainer:
PLEASE STOP THE CONTINUAL PERSONAL ATTACKS.
How about your own personal on attacks on the "13-year old schoolkids" in this forum?
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/680797
If you can't take it then don't dish it out.
i am continually being called a liar by a moderator who is trying to discredit all of my posts that criticize sony, only sony he is perfectly happy for me to diss microsoft as he posted himself, that is a little different.
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So now you are trying to make this into something else I see...no problem. I have some questions to ask you before I make it very clear but we'll see if you can properly answer them.
1) Do you help others on aD?
2) Do you participate in ANY other forums on aD?
3) Do you MAINLY post in the news threads?
4) Do you consistently post in Sony news threads?
5) Have you been warned before for misinformation?
6) Have you been temp banned for breaking aD's rules on other occasions by me & other mods?
If you REALLY want to get into this I will and without "flaming" as you are trying to make it seem (baiting doesn't work) so you can try and get me into some type of trouble when all I am doing and have done is clear up your old, biased, misinformed trolling posts.
You are a liar and I am not the only one to have proven this.
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