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hypermedia dvd-r ?
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aqr7
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26. January 2004 @ 06:42 |
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i came up with a 10pack of these but my drive is dvd+r so i checked on ebay. all hypermedia disks are dirt cheap, do they suck???
should i not get hypermedia dvd+r?
seeking advice
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jay33
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26. January 2004 @ 08:22 |
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I bought a 25 pk. of these for 9.99 and so far only 1 of the 16 I have burned didn't work. For some reason that 1 disc wouldn't even recognize before the burn started....pretty strange. Other than that I haven't had any major problems with them. I did burn 2 old 007 movies onto 1 dvd+r and there was a couple of slight pauses early on with the first movie, but no other problems.
These discs are manufactured by CMC-MAG, which some people will tell you isn't the best media to use. HP discs are also CMC-MAG and some other brands like Memorex use CMC-MAG discs. For the price I think they are pretty good, but of course they aren't the best.
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UT_CK
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29. January 2004 @ 04:03 |
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I buy them .. to date I've purchased about 450 of the hypermedia. I've had some that were bad.. (12 to date).. I purchased these for $1 CDN each.. and I can bring back the bad ones for an over the counter replacement. I burn on these at 2X using my LG GSA4040B. I also use Nero 6.0.23.
Usually Nero will tell you right off the bat if it's good or not. For the rare case where it does burn (ie: skips and pauses in the final product)... it's only happend twice to me.. and I've redone them.
As far as I'm concerned.. I'll live with a few defects at that price... All I care about is being able to detect the bad ones.. At such a low failure rate.. I'm getting a real bang for my buck !.
PS. I don't work for hypermedia... lol
Regards,
CK
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yellows
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20. February 2004 @ 06:14 |
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Hey everyone. This is my first post, but let me say that this forum is very helpfull.
I bought a 25 disk spindle of the hypermedia dvd-r's when I purchased my pioneer 107. I only got to get 9 of the 25 to burn at all. These rest failed stating there was a "laser calibration error". Now I have read this is due to bad media. None of these disk had any media code present when checked with DVDinfo. The 9 that did start burning were ok. I paid $29.99 + tax for them ( canadian dollars ). They are cheap but they suck. I brought them back to the store and they rplaced the ones that didn't burn with some other cheap crappy media.
I have also bought some other cheap media ( about $50/50 disk) and they burn fine except there is some pixalation when playign back in some dvd players. I also have Ridata 4X disk (G04) and they are great. No problems at all.
In conclussion, the Hypermedia disk kinda suck. I would not recommend buying them.
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20. February 2004 @ 14:15 |
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laser Calibration error is generally a disc problem where the DVD writer attempt to write a small packet to the disc before each burn for the process of calibration. I have the same writer you have. Why not get some Ritek RiDATA DVD-R's and get the firmware upgrade for Pioneer with the Hack that allows you to burn 4x media at 8x. Its great.
Glad you are finding the forum helpful
Chris
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yellows
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21. February 2004 @ 07:55 |
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Hey Orphius. I totaly agree with your power calibration error statement. I have now bought Ritek Ridata 4X G04's. They are great. I might try to update thefirmware to burn these disk at 8X. Is there any noticable problems with burning at 8X as opposed to 4X? Like many people are saying on the board, don't buy cheap media. You will end up saving more time, money and headache with quality media.
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pcshateme
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21. February 2004 @ 08:23 |
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i dont know about that. i have used mostly KHyper Media DVD+R (cause there cheap :) ) and i have had no burning or reading problems with them at all. The only times it didnt work, it was my falt like i was experimenting with something.
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21. February 2004 @ 09:15 |
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Hey yellows, with the RiDATA discs burning at 8x is fine, not difference in quality at all.
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UT_CK
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9. March 2004 @ 09:41 |
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I must stand in defence of the Hypermedia. I've purchased over 800 of these blanks. I admit I did receive a spindle which had a manufacturer's defect and it affected about 15 of the 25 disks.. (chip on the top surface). I returned these and got my full credit for them. To date not counting the 15 in that spindle.. I've had a grand total of 10 bad burns. That's 10 out of 840 or so. I'd say that's not too shabby. That's about 1.3% or something like that. I can live with that because the blanks cost me $1CDN each. All my successful burns have no issue of degradation and I can still read them all. As a matter of fact, the top coating is of exceptional quality. I don't have any problems with reading either.
I admit that I burn at 2X with my LG GSA404B.. and I've got the A302 firmware. Let me make the following statement from the feedback I've seen here.
Hypermedia at 2X = Great quality, reliability and durability.
Ritek (G04) at 8x = Great quality, reliability and durability.
Now we're all happy with what we have , we use the recipe that works. I just like to cook mine a little slower... :)
Regards,
CK
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pcshateme
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9. March 2004 @ 11:03 |
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i buy em all the time and only time i get a coaster is when i screw up testing something.
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kwebster
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30. March 2004 @ 07:57 |
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Interesting posts all. I tried the Khypermedia DVD-R 1x when I first got my Sony DVD burner last year. I bought them in 1-pak singles for $2 and they worked just fine. However, I bought 2 5-paks after that and only 1 out of the first 5 burned successfully, and only 2 out of the second 5. What's that -- 20% and 40% respectively? Unacceptable. It was as if the burner was detecting data already on the disc. That's all the convincing I needed. No more Khypermedia for me.
I've been using Princo 4x's (2 50-paks, 90% and 88% success rate), Verbatim 2x's (4 50-paks, 99% success rate), and Ritek/Ridata 4x's (waiting to be tested).
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pcshateme
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30. March 2004 @ 10:01 |
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i dont know whats wrong with your dirves, but i have a 2.4x Just Link Ikebana DVD+RW drive and seriously have had only about 5 burning errors and out of like 150+ dvds id say thats very good. and i always use whatever brand is cheapest (i usualy use khyper media, tdk, and memorex)
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chas0039
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31. March 2004 @ 12:22 |
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Hey guys,
One problem you won't be able to see when you burn is long term durability. I have no experience with this but I have read a number of sites and tests (mostly UK and Germany) where they state that there is a considerable difference in the quality of the dye used in discs, as well as difference in quality over time. Lots of posts, as well, with personal experience of decay. Since my reason for most burns is long term use and transfer from video I am very concerned that these things will last a few years.
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pcshateme
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31. March 2004 @ 12:54 |
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look brand name doesnt realy mean anything- for the most part there all the same, i dont know why everyone always fights me on this- all the discs use the same basic chemical makeup in there dye, every DVDr has a shelf life of 20-30 years and DVDrw has a life of 2-4 years (i found this on the dvd checker thing i got off this site) if you feel "safer" with a more expensive brand- fine go waste your money, but like ive said a million times, i never have problems and i have been burning for years. your dvds dye isnt going to "die out" faster in cheaper media cause its the same chemical formula
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tdyer
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10. April 2004 @ 14:48 |
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yeah, i just bought a spindle of 25 today.
nero recognizes them, and it works great until trying to burn.
ILLEGAL DISC error.
my last verbatim dvd-r works great though. some sort of AZO metal dye.
just flashed it with 1.0a and now it reads the disks fine. burns beautifuly, but the max speed of the drive acording to nero is 2x. when i bought it it was 4x. whats going on?
thank you muchly
Tristan Dyer
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obsolete_
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12. May 2004 @ 13:19 |
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I've been using Memorex since I bought me dvd burner. NEVER had a single problem. I recently ran out of Memorex dvd-r media and couldn't find anything cheaper than $70 (Canadian) for 25 discs.... that was a rip-off, i usually bought my Memorex for just over a buck a piece. I was at my local RadioShack and noticed a pack of 25 Hypermedia 4x DVD-R for only $35...... I went through seven discs to find one that worked.... and it still didn't work right. The menu in the dvd is all screwy. Word of advice: sometimes it's worth the extra cash to get good media.
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Frozilla
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17. May 2004 @ 00:24 |
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These discs are abosolutely horrible. Take them to the store and get your money back. NO REALLY, DO IT!
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obsolete_
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17. May 2004 @ 06:05 |
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oh, pcshateme, all media is not necessarily the same. The manufacturing process and concept behind the media is, although cheaper discs tend to have cheaper dyes. Some even have shitty organic dyes that decay after a few months. I have seen media guarenteed to have a storage life of approx. 100 years. It all depends on how much money you're willing to spend to store your data/movies/whatever
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