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Blu-ray gets a new layer of copy protection
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article published on 14 July, 2008
The German manufacturer X-PROTECT has announced a new layer of copy protection for use on Blu-ray Discs, meant to add extra security to the existing AACS.
X-PROTECT, known for its creation of anti-piracy-protection systems for DVDs and DVD-Rs, say the new X-PROTECT blue solution will work with both HDMV and BD-J Blu-ray Discs and will be updated regularly to stop new piracy attacks.
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14. July 2008 @ 01:42 |
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These people waste money, they just beg people to crack there encryptions.
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pcaddict
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14. July 2008 @ 01:49 |
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More compatibility issues.
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windsong
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14. July 2008 @ 01:52 |
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I honestly don't think they'll be satisfied until you have to do a retinal scan (eye or right hand..take your pick) to play your f'ing DVDs.
Or perhaps they'll force customers to install an authentication chip in some other region of our bodies before we watch a movie...
Almost like dropping a bar of soap in prison. Bastards.
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14. July 2008 @ 02:11 |
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I couldn't agree with you more windsong. Love that line about dropping the bar of soap in prison. freaking hilarious!
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14. July 2008 @ 02:22 |
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Originally posted by windsong:
I honestly don't think they'll be satisfied until you have to do a retinal scan (eye or right hand..take your pick) to play your f'ing DVDs.
Or perhaps they'll force customers to install an authentication chip in some other region of our bodies before we watch a movie...
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Almost like dropping a bar of soap in prison. Bastards
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ROFLMAO !!!! Excellent !!!!
The BPI Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The RIAA Soundexchange Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The IFPI Are: The same anti consumer lot as listed above!
The MPAA Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, DISNEY, PARAMOUNT, FOX.
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14. July 2008 @ 02:23 |
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Compatibility problems are bound to happen, meaning even more firmware updating is going to be needed to play new discs with this "encryption".
I wonder how long its gonna take Slysoft to get it out of the way. :P
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14. July 2008 @ 07:52 |
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Slysoft....Fentango....we'll just have to wait to see how long it takes them to crack it. And the battle rages on.
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snardos
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14. July 2008 @ 10:00 |
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Has anyone noticed that the more they try to stop piracy, the more piracy there is.
Back when all we had was vhs and cassette tapes we never bothered to make copies and all it took was two vcrs and a blank tape. We even had high speed dubbing for cassettes.
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14. July 2008 @ 10:34 |
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they have made larger gb discs just for all this protection and not for the quality and special features, ill stick to dvd when if you buy blueray your just paying extra for protections
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BludRayne
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14. July 2008 @ 12:05 |
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The more they try, the more they keep Slysoft in business!
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SDF_GR
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14. July 2008 @ 12:40 |
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I see it more like a reason X-PROTECT to make up some money and get free advertise.
BD and everything that has to do with locking it, is hot this period and news will travel fast.
Even the "prisoner" that windsong talked about(lol) knows that eventually this will crack too.
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14. July 2008 @ 12:51 |
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Originally posted by rtm27:
Slysoft....Fentango....we'll just have to wait to see how long it takes them to crack it. And the battle rages on.
Should we time this in days or in hours?
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14. July 2008 @ 12:55 |
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Almost like dropping a bar of soap in prison. Bastards
I see Windsong has been to the clink before. XD
Just kidding.
That's funny stuff right there.
This will just get cracked, like everything that's been tossed around before.
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14. July 2008 @ 13:45 |
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I wonder how long its gonna take Slysoft to get it out of the way. :P
im gonna say 15 minutes???
blu ray its self is currently the greatest means of encryption, only a few have blur ray players and then even fewer have blu ray drives in there computers......but those numbers are changing no???
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ikari
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14. July 2008 @ 15:03 |
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Originally posted by dude845:
These people waste money, they just beg people to crack there encryptions.
I have an idea. Now hear me out on this one.
Why don't we all go into the encryption business. We can make a lot of money on a product companies will pay millions for that we know won't last that long.
The tighter they squeeze, the more sand slips between their fingers.
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im gonna say 15 minutes???
Tripplite, be nice now. These guys/gals worked hard on their encryption. Say 30 minutes, that way the encryption company can feel good that they ruined some person's lunch instead of their break, cracking this encryption. :-)
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14. July 2008 @ 16:15 |
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hmm well i know its a bit off topic but if im not mistaken no one has been able to hack into the PS3 and unless it wasnt sony that created the encryptions for it they did pretty good job..and again if it is indeed sony then they are more stupid then i thought..they think they are the $h*t now so they should just delegate and spend millions and others who dont do a good job to protect their precious BD instead of doing what they seem to do best..might as well send a blind man to buy paint for their offices..
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JaguarGod
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15. July 2008 @ 15:00 |
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...and will be updated regularly to stop new piracy attacks.
I'm suing if they force me to connect my BD player to the internet to get some PoS updates to their content corruption. I shouldn't be forced to do anything I do not want to do with the players that I own... The whole reason I buy movies to watch at home is to have some sort of freedom. I wonder if we have the right to demand to buy movies without any corruption... With DVDs, all the structure corruption causes DVD players to works harder in order to read the discs and it puts unnecessary wear on the laser. It leads to players breaking down several years sooner than they should. X=Protect does the same.
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17. July 2008 @ 04:44 |
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...and will be updated regularly to stop new piracy attacks.
I'm suing if they force me to connect my BD player to the internet to get some PoS updates to their content corruption. I shouldn't be forced to do anything I do not want to do with the players that I own... The whole reason I buy movies to watch at home is to have some sort of freedom. I wonder if we have the right to demand to buy movies without any corruption... With DVDs, all the structure corruption causes DVD players to works harder in order to read the discs and it puts unnecessary wear on the laser. It leads to players breaking down several years sooner than they should. X=Protect does the same.
theyll probably do something with the discs in the end to make you update..mark my words
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17. July 2008 @ 21:19 |
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I say it will take no longer than 2 weeks for slysoft to crack it.
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17. July 2008 @ 22:59 |
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Originally posted by blueroad:
hmm well i know its a bit off topic but if im not mistaken no one has been able to hack into the PS3 and unless it wasnt sony that created the encryptions for it they did pretty good job..and again if it is indeed sony then they are more stupid then i thought..they think they are the $h*t now so they should just delegate and spend millions and others who dont do a good job to protect their precious BD instead of doing what they seem to do best..might as well send a blind man to buy paint for their offices..
To be honest the PS3 encryption is completely different from movies.A PS3 game is almost like a PC game in a way if you think about it.The game installs on the harddrive and reads certain sectors off the disc.When it comes to movies the protection is contained on the disc,and I have yet to find a movie that installs on a harddrive and reads certain sectors off the disc.All encryption gets hacked in due time plus its not just the media that is a problem with the PS3 but the harddrive encryption as well.
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18. July 2008 @ 07:23 |
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You know how you stop Slysoft? YOU BUY THEM AND HIRE THEIR EMPLOYEES... Watch and see
snardos, I agree the more they bring attention to it the more they get of it. Except its way easier to make copies today, I'm not sure why back in the day copies were not so popular. Perhaps it took a little more effort to use your brain...
What is really really scary is, today people can make illegal copies but they could not actually make change for a dollar to save their life...
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18. July 2008 @ 15:39 |
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You know I thought about that same scenario, why, cause its so true, the hackers and crackers are always far ahead, the best security people are and always have been x crooks.
You say to yourself no not our slysoft people they wont turn, but ask your self, how much money are those drm, riaa or whatever they call themselves are spending, no where near if they were to hire all slysoft employees, double and even triple thier salaries and worse of all buy the company out, that all put together would still be a fraction on what those numbsculls are spending now.
If someone was to offer to triple your salary, what would you do?
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18. July 2008 @ 16:06 |
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You'd think they would have learned already. I mean, Vista is a DRM nighmare and as such I wouldn't install it if someone gave it to me.
I feel the same way with Blueray. If they feel they need to protect their crap like this then fine. Go ahead. But I won't be investing.
I find it morally objectionable to have to PAY to be RESTRICTED.
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18. July 2008 @ 16:11 |
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pastor, AMEN
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18. July 2008 @ 19:09 |
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@blueroad,
They can't do that. I don't have cable or satellite and there is no guarantee I will renew my DSL. If the DSL goes, so does the phone service, so there is no way for me to get the updates. If they include it on the disc like the PS3, and they force you to install it, then they are selling you something illegally. Isn't that how Microsoft got screwed? You are only buying the movie, not their corruption or software "upgrade".
You have the right to not install any type of software that is included on any disc. If it installs without your permission, then you have grounds for a lawsuit. It's the same as if a doctor comes into your house and installs a pacemaker in your body when there is no need for one.
I don't even see what they are protecting themselves from. All these movies are already being pirated, but do you see people making a rush downloading every Blu Ray movie released? If the movie is good, people will rather buy it. They should spend more money on making movies better and leave the "protection" as it is. AACS has not been cracked, but hackers are finding ways around it. They will do the same to just about anything else that is implemented.
The only one that will work is using a copy protection that uses patterns of light to make people forget what they just saw. A sort of hypnosis. The only problem is that there is a chance that once someone watches a movie, they will forget that they just saw it and then watch it again and this vicious cycle will repeat itself until the person dies.
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