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UK ISPs join up for piracy crackdown
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article published on 24 July, 2008
England's six largest ISPs have all joined together with the government to "clamp down" on unauthorized downloading of music and movies.
Estimates have suggested that 6.5 million British citizens have downloaded unauthorized files over the last year and that piracy will cost the music industry £1 billion over the next five years.
The new clamp down will begin with thousands of warning ... [ read the full article ]
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masa92
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24. July 2008 @ 10:49 |
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Originally posted by DVDBack23:
..will cost the music industry £1 billion over the next five years.
I can't understand were do they pull these numbers, because I don't think that everybody who downloads pirated music, would have bought the CD. And maybe the cost of the war against piratism is waaay bigger.
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24. July 2008 @ 11:33 |
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They should be clamping down more on illegal immigrants and worrying more about terrorism soon as I get 1 letter ill be taking my hard earned cash somewhere else and if I keep getting them ill just cancel the internet roll on the next election and good bye Gordon brown nice to see our government have got there priorities in order catch illegal downloader?s but let any Fu@@ jump over the fence and bleed our system dry with free hand outs
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24. July 2008 @ 11:41 |
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Wow, this is really bad. I live in the U.S. and I know we are going to be next. Goodbye freedom.
They will have to send out thousands of warning letters, that can't be cheap, all at the expense of the citizens. Why not send out emails, I'm sure they will have access to it with their monitoring software.
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rkan
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24. July 2008 @ 12:05 |
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Someone(everyone) just has to upload legal-linux on bittorrent. Then let's see what they will say. :D
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SDF_GR
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24. July 2008 @ 12:15 |
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thats bad for the UK but i am sure that this must have so many holes that no one will ever get punished.
Dont know what is exactly the law in uk , but as long as you dont sell /have profit from what you DL they cant put you in jail cause you have DL something.
anyway, this will push more people to Rapidshare etc.
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windsong
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24. July 2008 @ 12:17 |
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All the ISPs have committed to developing legal file-sharing services, with perhaps the option of users paying extra per month to the ISPs to download unlimited legal music.
This is so full of fail...a fillet fish chok full of it. You cant compete with free. If I buy a CD and want to share it with my friends, that is my business. This whole thing reminds me of when the Bioshock DRM fiasco happened and some 2K goon on the forums said "why should your brother get to play for free?"
Asshats.
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beanos66
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24. July 2008 @ 12:27 |
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Originally posted by DVDBack23:
..will cost the music industry £1 billion over the next five years.
£1 billion that record execs. and performers can't spend on cocaine
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24. July 2008 @ 12:34 |
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Originally posted by rkan:
Someone(everyone) just has to upload legal-linux on bittorrent. Then let's see what they will say. :D
That's my plan just to p*ss them off. Will this affect users that encrypt there connections in uTorrent or Azureus?
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24. July 2008 @ 12:40 |
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Note...this is just an idea...might not work...Cheers!
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Maybe breaking things up might help instead of using 1 file...
For example:
a)Usually 1 file contains everything you need, like:
Al Green - Greatest Hits.torrent
b)So you download it and you get three seperate codes that you will
need to put together at the end to make it work..like:
p29eirh3f82o02a.rar
ppjew93nj20iofs.rar
pppow029jh2f9fv.rar
... or maybe torrents....
p29eirh3f82o02a.torrent
ppjew93nj20iofs.torrent
pppow029jh2f9fv.torrent
... and inside are the "rar" files that you are downloading.
c) When they are all downloaded, you can rejoin them all and you
will have your "original" Al Green - Greatest Hits music!
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...just a thought. But if you are using "excessive bandwidth" one might be more "closely" watched than others.
Cheers!
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24. July 2008 @ 12:57 |
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That's a fairly good idea rlessmue. It's a triumph of common sense over technology however I don't think it will catch on (or might but only in a limited number of torrents).
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westbrom
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24. July 2008 @ 14:16 |
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WHAT happens when 90 percent of the users that dload have to disconnect from the isp and they lose loads of money
also we need something to block our ips or stop them tracking torrents
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tin23uk
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24. July 2008 @ 15:30 |
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i say everyone should just download as much as they do and more if possible. there would of course be a blackout period eventually where all but a few people will have been banned from using the net at which point isp's will be going broke and have to end all the bans to keep in buisiness.
THEY CANT BAN EVERYONE. its just not good for buisiness lol
infact technically its the ditribution (uploading) that they get pissy over, i know it would destroy download speeds if everyone in the UK stopped seeding torrents they were downloading, but if theres a way you can completely stop seeding and still be able to download (slowley) then what can they do, no one could be charged with distributing copyrighted material which would leave them with no choice other than to ban users, which again is not good for buisiness when you have banned all your customers.
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akira247
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24. July 2008 @ 15:49 |
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you cant stop whats free,dosnt matter how many toes you stand on gettin there
make dvds and music free and just tax the tools we use to download and copy them
then the money from the taxed things throw in a pot for the people who make the movies and music..
make torrents total download the true top 10 and share the money to the people at the top of the list.. easy
then you would filter all the crap hollywood movies they would bring out.. Batman has just made millions there is no problem
russia release there dvd releases soon after they release it at cinema to reduce pirate dvds. good idea also
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January39
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24. July 2008 @ 15:51 |
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With all the things going on in the world and the in the UK, you would think they had higher priorties. Still given the lack of competence they have already showed in the past - I doubt they will get this right.
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24. July 2008 @ 16:01 |
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i gotta agree with killalot, i cant see how the government find a few sites with free music is more important than illegal immigrants and terrorism.
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varnull
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24. July 2008 @ 16:01 |
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FFS.. we give taxpayers legal aid to enemies of britain and murders etc to stay here.. wanted and convicted criminals where they come from are living in the UK at taxpayers expense.. and what gets said about that? NOTHING!!
So newsgroups and xdcc.. with the pedos and terrorists.. iws where they will push us.. wow, just what we need.. another bunch of technically aware and skilled pissed off people.. I say lets target the UK financial institutions with ddos and other nasty tricks.. most of us have stolen connections.. we don't need these shitty criminal isp's and unelected asshat politicians dictating to us any more.
They can't sort out the big problems of drug, gun and knife crime.. so lets just piss everybody off so we can impose martial law eh?
When they catch me.. the ip they will get relates to a .gov domain.. lets see eh?
Welcome to the darknet ;)
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24. July 2008 @ 16:07 |
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on torrent sites now, (Some) they have put encryption on your data so isp's cant read the data.but some websites do require paying.
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24. July 2008 @ 16:34 |
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varnull-if only there was a way of getting tht through 2 the government
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24. July 2008 @ 17:06 |
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LOL aaaaaggghh woops i was downloading a movie as i discovered this article on the main page :O unbelievable!!! i wonder if this will move on to other countries??
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emugamer
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24. July 2008 @ 17:09 |
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Originally posted by akira247:
then you would filter all the crap hollywood movies they would bring out.. Batman has just made millions there is no problem
But that's just it. There is a problem in their eyes. Because they feel that piracy causes the industry to lose millions more. If Batman makes $300 million, there is always the statement, "well, it could make $300 million more" if people didn't "pirate." The thought isn't how much a movie makes....it's how much more a movie can make, or anything else for that matter. Nobody is calling out the makers of these absurd claims of billions in lost revenue, so these absurd claims are starting to become engraved in stone because every media organization is making them, and the government is now backing these claims.
Reasoning that "making XX amount of millions should be good enough" doesn't fly with Capitalism. Everyone has the right to make as much money as possible, and anything or anyone that gets in the way can get crushed in the blink of an eye. There is no such thing as fair use if it "infringes" on someones right to make money. So we had better get used to it because the hammer is dropping.
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24. July 2008 @ 17:25 |
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well im not sure, but over in this country torrents and file sharing (P2P) is illegal.in other countries it is ok so it will not happen
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24. July 2008 @ 17:38 |
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ok but have u eva played a dvd and it comes up wiv a warning saying no copying or viewing without the owners permission n all tht crap.
well wen u r hosting ur music and dvds on the net u r basicaly giving permission for people to download it n stuff. u wouldnt host sumin on the net then complain u didnt giv permission to them.
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buxton
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24. July 2008 @ 17:46 |
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I hate it that nobody ever just places facts in front of these money grabbing fagins, they have nothing, it is a non-argument that they WILL win.
http://www.imdb.com/boxoffice/alltimegross?region=world-wide
Ok, look at the dates on those films, do they look like BT effected them in any way? Titanic is a fluke, who knows why that took so much cash, so they cant say all those films would have topped Titanic given BT not leaching them. How is Dark knight breaking all records when it is on every single Torrent site?
Putting this argument down isn't difficult.
A penny lost on a Billion is still a penny lost to these jokers, and that is the crux of the problem, they just want total control of everything so they can get back to manipulating viewing habits and making cheap horrible films that all make a profit. They can dress it up however they want.
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kenkorea
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24. July 2008 @ 19:09 |
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hey why?
the gov do catch the crime in the street they waited they time on internet what a f$%& what they wanted
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24. July 2008 @ 19:56 |
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demonnews FTW with SSL encrypted downloads for me :)
yes say im using alot of bandwitdh but they wont be able to monitor what i dld :)
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