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Ray Beckerman urges defense lawyers to go after MediaSentry

article published on 13 August, 2008

Ray Beckerman, the high profile defense attorney who has spent countless hours battling RIAA lawyers in New York, has recently posted some advice to other defense attorneys on his blog, Recording Industry vs. The People. In light of the recent trend of judicial skepticism about RIAA claims he suggests that a good offense may be the best defense right now. In particular the RIAA has been ... [ read the full article ]

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And hunted now become the hunters.
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13. August 2008 @ 06:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
And vice versa.
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Originally posted by nonoitall:
And vice versa.
How "vice versa" ?

The BPI Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The RIAA Soundexchange Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The IFPI Are: The same anti consumer lot as listed above!
The MPAA Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, DISNEY, PARAMOUNT, FOX.
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lmao. people like to post things without knowning what they mean or if its even relevant.. bravo "applauds"
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Quality stuff from Beckerman. he moved his blog.. anybody know where it went?
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The question that comes immediately to mind is this. If the RIAA's arguments are so clearly in line with both written and case law why do they have to reach so far to prove it?

Well stated indeed.
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Originally posted by varnull:
Quality stuff from Beckerman. he moved his blog.. anybody know where it went?

It's still on Blogspot

http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/
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In particular the RIAA has been spending a lot of time defending arguments about using a "making available" argument where they claim that simply sharing files is enough to qualify as copyright infringement.
So if the people won, then could the ruling be over-turned for those that were convicted for "making available"? What about settlements? Would they still owe the money because they agreed to settle?
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In particular the RIAA has been spending a lot of time defending arguments about using a "making available" argument where they claim that simply sharing files is enough to qualify as copyright infringement.
So if the people won, then could the ruling be over-turned for those that were convicted for "making available"? What about settlements? Would they still owe the money because they agreed to settle?

Disclaimer: IANAL (I Am Not A Lawyer - why does that look so dirty?)

I'm pretty sure that anyone who has settled is pretty much screwed since no judicial ruling was involved. Only one lawsuit, the Jammie Thomas case, has gone to jury. The making available argument was upheld as a key argument, but it appears the judge in that case is getting ready to give her a new trial on the grounds that was an error of law. You also have to remember that her lawyer in the original case didn't want to be there, and was actually trying to have himself removed from the case before he ever set foot in the courtroom.
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Disclaimer: IANAL (I Am Not A Lawyer - why does that look so dirty?)

I'm pretty sure that anyone who has settled is pretty much screwed since no judicial ruling was involved. Only one lawsuit, the Jammie Thomas case, has gone to jury. The making available argument was upheld as a key argument, but it appears the judge in that case is getting ready to give her a new trial on the grounds that was an error of law. You also have to remember that her lawyer in the original case didn't want to be there, and was actually trying to have himself removed from the case before he ever set foot in the courtroom.
Vurbal, that does look dirty! I agree with you. I think once you've settled, that's it. It's the same as arbitration. I would like to see Jammie Thomas win her case, and then counter-sue.
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It's relevant...vice versa would mean the HUNTERS are now the HUNTED.
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Here in the u.s.a i find that the RIAA should be called the new mob.

They violate peoples rights you have no right to search someone's traffic on there machine without a warrent to do so.

You do not search a machine illegally to get a warrent.

And all of there search warrents should be thrown out of court..

This is why we have the internet protection act it protects are rights online so that we are not marked as Criminals and treated as such and the Riaa continues to violate the internet protection act which should be counted as illegal but yet we have judges that have no balls to stand up to the Riaa and say heck no you cannot search someone's machine to obtain a search warrent.

But again the Riaa continues to pay off people to look the other way and continue to look the other way.
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Here in the u.s.a i find that the RIAA should be called the new mob.

Of course, the Racketeering Industry Association of America.
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Here in the u.s.a i find that the RIAA should be called the new mob.

Of course, the Racketeering Industry Association of America.
So do the "RICO" laws mean

Recording Industry Corrupt Organizations ???

The BPI Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The RIAA Soundexchange Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The IFPI Are: The same anti consumer lot as listed above!
The MPAA Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, DISNEY, PARAMOUNT, FOX.
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Racketeering Imperialists Condone Oppression
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