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Michael Moore to release latest movie on Internet for free
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article published on 5 September, 2008
The popular documentary filmmaker Michael Moore has announced that he will be exclusively releasing his latest documentary on the Web for free instead of releasing it traditionally via theaters.
The movie, set for release on September 23rd, is entitled "Slacker Uprising" and document's a 62 city tour of what Moore calls "key swing states during the 2004 U.S. presidential election" where ... [ read the full article ]
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5. September 2008 @ 15:01 |
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As if the guy doesn't already have the worst reputation in the world for being a sleazeball
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5. September 2008 @ 15:11 |
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what's the catch ?
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5. September 2008 @ 15:12 |
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Originally posted by windsong:
As if the guy doesn't already have the worst reputation in the world for being a sleazeball
Maybe in your opinion not mine, he may be clever in his methods but the end result is usually just.
@1bonehead
If you read the article it said that it was entirely funded by himself and his exec's not a major movie company. He just wants more popularity so that more people will listen to his messages.
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5. September 2008 @ 15:18 |
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Originally posted by canuckerz:
Originally posted by windsong:
As if the guy doesn't already have the worst reputation in the world for being a sleazeball
Maybe in your opinion not mine, he may be clever in his methods but the end result is usually just.
@1bonehead
If you read the article it said that it was entirely funded by himself and his exec's not a major movie company. He just wants more popularity so that more people will listen to his messages.
But his opinions (not facts mind you) are biased and quite slanted
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5. September 2008 @ 15:29 |
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Originally posted by canuckerz:
Originally posted by windsong:
As if the guy doesn't already have the worst reputation in the world for being a sleazeball
Maybe in your opinion not mine, he may be clever in his methods but the end result is usually just.
@1bonehead
If you read the article it said that it was entirely funded by himself and his exec's not a major movie company. He just wants more popularity so that more people will listen to his messages.
But his opinions (not facts mind you) are biased and quite slanted
Could your opinion be slanted as well?
"But his opinions (not facts mind you)" - Do you know that for sure? Honestly, I don't know either way.
I guess my point is, an opinion is that, an opinion. You have a choice to agree or don't agree or don't care. You post on a website to state your opinion, he uses movies.
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5. September 2008 @ 15:37 |
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In watching Michael Moore's latest movie Sicko, he does raise many good facts. But talking to friends in Canada and the UK, the rosy picture of health care presented in his movie (fot the UK and Canada)is unsubstantiated. hence my belief that his movie is biased.
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5. September 2008 @ 15:49 |
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He doesn't have enough money to pay me to see his work.
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5. September 2008 @ 16:11 |
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So, he's using the money he made off of the gullible public with his previous trash to offer his current trash for "free"? And that makes him different from the rest of the internet trash websites, how?
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Originally posted by 1bonehead:
In watching Michael Moore's latest movie Sicko, he does raise many good facts. But talking to friends in Canada and the UK, the rosy picture of health care presented in his movie (fot the UK and Canada)is unsubstantiated. hence my belief that his movie is biased.
I'm canadain ->canuckerz<- the only thing we really have to pay for is part of our perscription drugs and ambulence rides. The only downside right now (in nova scotia anyway) is that we're loosing more doctors than we're getting. And we have a conservative government atm so that dosent help but it is still free healthcare none the less (as long as our prime minister Stephen Harper the robot dosent get his way).
Universal heath care is better than private healthcare anyday imo.
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5. September 2008 @ 16:27 |
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Originally posted by canuckerz:
Originally posted by 1bonehead:
In watching Michael Moore's latest movie Sicko, he does raise many good facts. But talking to friends in Canada and the UK, the rosy picture of health care presented in his movie (fot the UK and Canada)is unsubstantiated. hence my belief that his movie is biased.
I'm canadain ->canuckerz<- the only thing we really have to pay for is part of our perscription drugs and ambulence rides. The only downside right now (in nova scotia anyway) is that we're loosing more doctors than we're getting. And we have a conservative government atm so that dosent help but it is still free healthcare none the less (as long as our prime minister Stephen Harper the robot dosent get his way).
Universal heath care is better than private healthcare anyday imo.
Here in the US, if you are on medicare (and over 65) and need a coronary bypass surg, you get it. In the UK (and possibly Canada) you receive nitroglycerine pills for the resulting angina pectoris (chest pain). Only under life threatening conditions do you get the coronary bypass surgery. This is why there is a several year wait for this kind of top notch treatment. care is rationed to save costs. Many Canadians go across the the border to the Mayo clinic in Minnesota to purchase the needed treatment instead of waiting (and no paying for this treatment is not allowed in Canada)This side of the facts M More did not present in his movie Sicko.
Please correct me if I am in error.
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5. September 2008 @ 17:25 |
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Originally posted by 1bonehead:
In watching Michael Moore's latest movie Sicko, he does raise many good facts. But talking to friends in Canada and the UK, the rosy picture of health care presented in his movie (fot the UK and Canada)is unsubstantiated. hence my belief that his movie is biased.
I'm canadain ->canuckerz<- the only thing we really have to pay for is part of our perscription drugs and ambulence rides. The only downside right now (in nova scotia anyway) is that we're loosing more doctors than we're getting. And we have a conservative government atm so that dosent help but it is still free healthcare none the less (as long as our prime minister Stephen Harper the robot dosent get his way).
Universal heath care is better than private healthcare anyday imo.
Sure, that is why you have first class health facilities. What medical breakthroughs have come out of Canada? How many foreigners travel to Canada for top-notch healthcare?
Sorry, but there is a reason so much comes out of the US and so many come here for treatment. Compare it buying electronics at Goodwill versus Bestbuy.
When you pay for something, you usually get better quality in any facet of life.
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5. September 2008 @ 17:46 |
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Originally posted by windsong:
As if the guy doesn't already have the worst reputation in the world for being a sleazeball
Maybe in your opinion not mine, he may be clever in his methods but the end result is usually just.
@1bonehead
If you read the article it said that it was entirely funded by himself and his exec's not a major movie company. He just wants more popularity so that more people will listen to his messages.
But his opinions (not facts mind you) are biased and quite slanted
Amen! Mike Moore is my hero. he stands up for everyday people and does his best to open the minds and educate people to whats really going on in this country.
The real sleaze balls are those who continue to look out for their own interest and not think of how we as a people can improve the overall human condition.
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Originally posted by 1bonehead:
In watching Michael Moore's latest movie Sicko, he does raise many good facts. But talking to friends in Canada and the UK, the rosy picture of health care presented in his movie (fot the UK and Canada)is unsubstantiated. hence my belief that his movie is biased.
I'm canadain ->canuckerz<- the only thing we really have to pay for is part of our perscription drugs and ambulence rides. The only downside right now (in nova scotia anyway) is that we're loosing more doctors than we're getting. And we have a conservative government atm so that dosent help but it is still free healthcare none the less (as long as our prime minister Stephen Harper the robot dosent get his way).
Universal heath care is better than private healthcare anyday imo.
Sure, that is why you have first class health facilities. What medical breakthroughs have come out of Canada? How many foreigners travel to Canada for top-notch healthcare?
Sorry, but there is a reason so much comes out of the US and so many come here for treatment. Compare it buying electronics at Goodwill versus Bestbuy.
When you pay for something, you usually get better quality in any facet of life.
Ah but with insurance you arent nessarily paying to have it done, your paying a company who may or may not pay for your medical treatment.
Most of your radioactive materials used for treating cancer comes from our candu reactor, and we discovered insulin fyi.
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Ah but with insurance you arent nessarily paying to have it done, your paying a company who may or may not pay for your medical treatment.
Now this is so true
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Originally posted by 1bonehead:
In watching Michael Moore's latest movie Sicko, he does raise many good facts. But talking to friends in Canada and the UK, the rosy picture of health care presented in his movie (fot the UK and Canada)is unsubstantiated. hence my belief that his movie is biased.
i live in canada and i wouldnt trade our health care system for yours any day.
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but it is still free healthcare none the less
Everytime I hear this I still laugh out loud!!!
Free? so the doctors don't get paid? The Pharmicutical companies don't make profit? The nurses work gratis?
There is no such thing as free healh care. Someone is paying for it.
The problem is that it's usually ME paying for YOU!
I pay for MY insurance to receive the Medical treatment I have paid for with the money I earned. Not your money. Not some rich guy's money. MINE.
Sure, there's pleanty wrong with our current system including price fixing and overcharging and such... but in no way would I want some kind of universal healh care controlled by the governement where I end up paying for some illegal alien's birth.
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but it is still free healthcare none the less
Everytime I hear this I still laugh out loud!!!
Free? so the doctors don't get paid? The Pharmicutical companies don't make profit? The nurses work gratis?
There is no such thing as free healh care. Someone is paying for it.
The problem is that it's usually ME paying for YOU!
I pay for MY insurance to receive the Medical treatment I have paid for with the money I earned. Not your money. Not some rich guy's money. MINE.
Sure, there's pleanty wrong with our current system including price fixing and overcharging and such... but in no way would I want some kind of universal healh care controlled by the governement where I end up paying for some illegal alien's birth.
My concept of free is that when I need the service I get it and don't have to worry about paying for it when I'm on a strecher. And Canadians welcome immigrants, its called compassion for fellow human beings.
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Originally posted by aldan:
Originally posted by 1bonehead:
In watching Michael Moore's latest movie Sicko, he does raise many good facts. But talking to friends in Canada and the UK, the rosy picture of health care presented in his movie (fot the UK and Canada)is unsubstantiated. hence my belief that his movie is biased.
i live in canada and i wouldnt trade our health care system for yours any day.
I live in the US and I too believe the health care system here is broken. But neither yours or ours is the solution. top notch universal care is enormously expensive.The best health care is and always will be expensive. How we pay for it will be the question. Also is universal health a right or a privelege ? Who pays ? what about all the other social services, let alone national defense ? how do we pay for all these things and still have money for rent and groceries ? Are we capitolist/socialist or even communist to afford thest things ? what do we give up as a people for these things ? Is it fair to ask the workers to support the non workers (wealth redistribution) forever? we are not talking about the truly disabled (which we have a God given mandate to care for) , but the lazy .
I do not know the answer, but a one sided opinion is not the answer.
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Originally posted by 1bonehead:
In watching Michael Moore's latest movie Sicko, he does raise many good facts. But talking to friends in Canada and the UK, the rosy picture of health care presented in his movie (fot the UK and Canada)is unsubstantiated. hence my belief that his movie is biased.
i live in canada and i wouldnt trade our health care system for yours any day.
I live in the US and I too believe the health care system here is broken. But neither yours or ours is the solution. top notch universal care is enormously expensive.The best health care is and always will be expensive. How we pay for it will be the question. Also is universal health a right or a privelege ? Who pays ? what about all the other social services, let alone national defense ? how do we pay for all these things and still have money for rent and groceries ? Are we capitolist/socialist or even communist to afford thest things ? what do we give up as a people for these things ? Is it fair to ask the workers to support the non workers (wealth redistribution) forever? we are not talking about the truly disabled (which we have a God given mandate to care for) , but the lazy .
I do not know the answer, but a one sided opinion is not the answer.
Very true, its always a balance between money and services and we're almost opposites on the scale. I just don't think healthcare should be a buisness.
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I just don't think privatized health care is the right way to ever achieve the balance
I also agree whole heartedly
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I just don't think healthcare should be a buisness.
I agree, but if it were left to the government, then the result would not be palatable either
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My concept of free is that when I need the service I get it and don't have to worry about paying for it when I'm on a strecher. And Canadians welcome immigrants, its called compassion for fellow human beings.
You have not had the problems of the undocumented yet driving up the costs of healthcare yet. When too many take advantage of a free system ment for the truly poor, it becomes a financial problem. We are near the breaking point in Caliornia, Arizona and Texas. Compassion is and always be a mark of humanity. But how do we remain compassionate when we become bankrupt taking care of the greedy and lazy ? Read in the Bible 2nd Thessalonians Chapter 3 verses 6-12, but remember verse 10 (any edition will do, but try NKJV or NIV as the best translations)
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You have not had the problems of the undocumented yet driving up the costs of healthcare yet. When too many take advantage of a free system ment for the truly poor, it becomes a financial problem. We are near the breaking point in Caliornia, Arizona and Texas. Compassion is and always be a mark of humanity. But how do we remain compassionate when we become bankrupt taking care of the greedy and lazy ? Read in the Bible 2nd Thessalonians Chapter 3 verses 6-12, but remember verse 10 (any edition will do, but try NKJV or NIV as the best translations)
We're having that problem with our welfare program right now, 90% of the people are abusing it and the 10% who need it don't get what they need.
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For his crap, free's too expensive.
Same with Morgan Spurlock's junk.
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As if the guy doesn't already have the worst reputation in the world for being a sleazeball
Maybe in your opinion not mine, he may be clever in his methods but the end result is usually just.
@1bonehead
If you read the article it said that it was entirely funded by himself and his exec's not a major movie company. He just wants more popularity so that more people will listen to his messages.
But his opinions (not facts mind you) are biased and quite slanted
Could your opinion be slanted as well?
"But his opinions (not facts mind you)" - Do you know that for sure? Honestly, I don't know either way.
I guess my point is, an opinion is that, an opinion. You have a choice to agree or don't agree or don't care. You post on a website to state your opinion, he uses movies.
Actual everything that he has brought up with film & documents has yet to be proved wrong.There not secret to what has happen to this country(U.S.) under the right wing leadership watch the last eight years.Health Care benefits are down right laughable the Current U.S. deficit is about to explode.....He bring light to these issue they don't want you to see.
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We're having that problem with our welfare program right now, 90% of the people are abusing it and the 10% who need it don't get what they need.
So true. I don't know how we ever are going to fix this problem.
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We're having that problem with our welfare program right now, 90% of the people are abusing it and the 10% who need it don't get what they need.
So true. I don't know how we ever are going to fix this problem.
I'm inclined to agree here. I certainly wish there was an honest solution. Harsh reality is simple: there is not a simple solution.
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