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10. July 2006 @ 01:32 |
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I'm still tearing up the saugeye. The overall total is 270 keepers.
Dad got a hook in his finger last week after a saugeye thrashed in the net.Ouch!
That put him out of commision for a couple hours,but when he came back-I caught 3 in the 3lb range and he didn't catch anything, LOL
I gotta go back to work today,UGGH!,but I got a few evenings to fish for them until they go into hiding shortly.
Tear those crappie up neph. I've been getting some nice 12-13" ones trolling and they taste great.
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15. July 2006 @ 10:31 |
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The tally from last night's all nighter at Alamo:
61 crappie
2 smallmouth bass
4 keeper sized bluegill
1 channel cat
I'm well into my 25th hour of no sleep. Pictures will follow sometime after I regain consciousness.
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15. July 2006 @ 11:28 |
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The saugeyes are slowing down now. Only got 5 this morning,but 1 went 21.5" and about 3 lbs. Another went 17.5".
Everyone else was getting the small ones, LOL
That puts the total for my boat at 284 saugeye keepers,2 dozen crappie,2 dozen catfish, half a dozen white bass,150+ dinks,and lost about 50+ keepers.
Lost about 20 baits/50 yds of spiderwire/1 timex watch,but found 5 other baits and 200 yds of line attached, LOL.
The best year by far!!! I'm getting pretty famous on the lake, LOL.
When you run a huge white mast on the front end,everyone the passes by gazes at me, LOL
How ya going to cook those crappie up Neph?
Pan fry with beer batter?
My dad want's to try some saugeye on the grill. I've eaten so many of them that it feels like I'm growing gills.
I got 3,quart size freezer bags that are plum full of saugeye cheeks. That is some of the finest eats there is!
Anybody else ever cut out and eat the cheaks of saugeye or walleye? Probably sauger as well?
Very Tasty-just like eating shrimp!!!!!
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15. July 2006 @ 14:17 |
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Me thinks I'll stick to my shrimp crab and crawfish. LOL The little lady's in K making stuffed crab for tonight. Can't wait. Talked to my brother in law last nite and it's getting so expensive to go out from the coast now @$3.00/gal. His son and friends tanked up with 500 gal for a grand total for about $1,500 fuel nothing else. Fish get real expensive at that level per pound. You have to have 5 or more fisherman to be able to afford it. It's almost too damn hot here after noon to do much fishing anyway. Real football starts soon. I think the pros have preseason games in 3 or4 weeks.
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15. July 2006 @ 14:49 |
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Fish get real expensive at that level per pound. You have to have 5 or more fisherman to be able to afford it
Holly Moly!
It costs me about $20 per trip.
3 gals for the truck
1-2 gal for the car-to get to dad's
2-4 gal for the boat,depending if I use my efficient 4 stroke,or gas guzzling 2 stroke and how many hours trolling.
For $20,2 people: 12 fish limit would only run under $2 a fish. Even a low output like today's 5 fish is still a bargain at $4 a fish.
I haven't had too many solo trips this year,thank goodness.Lots of help,and the valuable 2 extra rods we can use to help find the right color! 2 rods just don't cut it.
Dad chips in for the gas,new crankbaits,and some other buds would chip in for gas money as well.
Last week,I went through $180 + for gas. Had about 80 keepers for those 9 days. Worst day was 4 fish.
3 final days of saugeye fishing remain!
Those people up at lake erie are hurting. Those boats suck up the gas $$$$. They'll troll 12+ hrs a day!
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I've seen folks catching carp to eat. Yuck!
Older reply,but I ran across something to go with that. I hang out at the Ohio gamefish forums,and looked through the nasty carp room. One person talked about his trip from ohio to chicago for Carp! Uggh!Another carp newbie wanted to know how to catch them. Can you believe that crap! It's more like,how not to catch them.
June's angler of the month was a guy holding a huge carp. Go figure!
I'm sorry,but carp are pretty nasty.Dirty,bottom feeding,mud suckers!
If I catch a carp while catfishing,it goes back in the water belly up, LOL! I've even thrown them into our camp fire.
15 of them in 1 night! They are fun to catch if you want a good fight.
Edit: Had to throw that pic in, LOL!
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16. July 2006 @ 06:34 |
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I've had a couple bad weeks here.
First, it was raining EVERY DAY for like 2 weeks, horrible. Flooded and everything.
Then, just over a week ago, we went out and had a good day. Girlfriend got about a 5lb channel, together we 2 keeper sauger, and at least 3 keeper sauger that got away. I got another maybe pound-and-a-half channel before we stopped, all in all a very good day.
So the next day we went again...shouldn't have. I've gotten good w/ my cast net, so I was casting it on a boat ramp (clear of debris) and got some minnies, a 7 inch sucker (good for the flatheads, or so I hear), and a 28 inch sucker! Lol...thought it was a log. Next cast...I got a tree or something....now I don't have a cast net. Also lost several nice Gakamatsu hooks that night, and got soaked because it started to rain, HORRIBLE.
All this week I was DYING to go fishing...so I went on Tuesday w/ my brother. He missed something big, but besides that we got nothing, so we moved to a different spot. I got 2 smallmouth using crankbaits, but it was nothing to write home about, so we gave up. I was expecting swiftwater (because it flooded again that morning), but the lock and dam had all but one gate CLOSED, so...yea, blowed up.
So friday, I'm like "I'M GOIN FISHIN!". So I go buy 5 dozen minnies, a new minnie flow-thru-holder, some new hooks, a drink, and a bag of chips. I get to the dam...and they have EVERY GATE OPEN...I'm like...wtf? The problem w/ this scenario is that the place where you stand is UNDERWATER when they have the first gate open...so I went to the spot where I lost the cast net. Didn't even get a bite. People all around me fishing for stupid ass carp. One feller got a 12 pounder, and was tellin me how someone got a 54 pounder a couple nights before. I'm like "why bother?".
So yesterday, I'm STILL determined, STILL have about 4 dozen live minnows. So I go to this place where I've heard there are lots of creek chubs, and in about 30 mins we got about 2 doz of 'em, between 3-8 inches long. Should be PERFECT sauger/walleye bait I'm thinking. Same guy who told me where the chubs were told me how to get to a DIFFERENT tailwaters, promised lots of walleye. So...off we go. We got there in the heat of the day...kinda stupid I guess, but w/e. It's a weird place, because there is ALWAYS some flow (hydroelectric dam), but there is debris on the bottom. Probably big rocks, but whatever. You can't let it bottom bounce...but if you don't, the current's fast enough that your minnow/chub skims the surface or about 1 foot under it. UGG...
I did catch a decent striper and something else, I think it was a rockbass. Between the two of us, we DEFINATELY missed at least 3-5 other BIG fish. She missed something that left only the head of a 8 inch chub, I got back several chewed up minnies. I put on a stinger...and snagged on the first cast. DAMMIT.
Anyway, we left before it got dark-ish, but I think we'll be going back there. It's beautiful there, and I know there's some biggens in there. I gotta get more slip weights tho...the egg sinkers give me too many snags.
So yea.. CRAP.
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16. July 2006 @ 08:42 |
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There's some major flooding to the north of me, In hardin county. Not really affecting my lake. It rose about 6",and you can still see down about a foot. Perfect saugeye clarity-nice and murky.The lakes around Columbus oh is greatly affected by all the rain.
We just get a T-storm here,and there. No rain the last 2 days.
Dad and I got 4 saugeye this morning. A nice one at 17.5" and others 15-16.I got a nice 11" crappie,still full of eggs. I threw back 2-16" channel cats.
Definitely slowing down-water temp is rising with this 90+ degree temps,and 90%+ humidity. I'll try changing tactics tomorrow.
TomMelee: With the debris on the bottom,how about a floating jig head,with slide sinker? Weight would be on the bottom-hopefully not snagged,and the floating jig head with minnow would be a foot or 2 above the bottom. I never had any luck with large rivers and dams. Only 1- cumberland river in Ashland city TN. I'd be tightlining,then they would release the water every 15 mins,and away goes my hooks and sinker. A very strong undertow. The only thing I caught,was a sheephead, UGGH! I've caught enough of them at lake erie.
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16. July 2006 @ 10:15 |
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Anybody else ever cut out and eat the cheaks of saugeye or walleye? Probably sauger as well?
Very Tasty-just like eating shrimp!!!!!
mmmmmm cheek meat can't be beat.
It's supposed to get up to 102 today...if im going out in my boat today,it will be to ski,or tube,or just cruise.
To hell with the fish ;)
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16. July 2006 @ 13:44 |
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You wouldn't want to swim in the lake I go to. Water is stained,mud bottom,and stump city. You can't even dive in it. A couple years ago.Someone bought a condo and boat on this lake. First time taking the boat out with his son,his son dove in the water and never came up. He jumped in after his son,and never surfaced. Probable dove into 3 ft of mud and couldn't get out?
It's been in the 90's last 2 days,and suppose to be mid 90's all week! UGGH!
I hate the heat. I'm ready for snow!!!
Maybe even a little ice fishing?
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20. July 2006 @ 22:04 |
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Took me a bit but here are a few pics from last weeks trip.
Here's three nice crappie,
Here's the night's haul,
Here's me with my two best,
We're heading back for more the weekend after next. I'm stocking up on jigs this time. Last weekend we ran out of minnows so I went to jigs and got some really big ones on them. Can't wait :)
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21. July 2006 @ 01:33 |
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Nice haul neph. You got some serious grubbing ahead of ya!
What kind of jigs?
I make my own. The only jigs I use are the 1/16--1/4 oz lead heads with the grub barbs. Made for twistertails and other plastics.
I also use powdercoat paint,very sweet. Quick and hard!
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21. July 2006 @ 14:22 |
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It ceetainly was a fruitful night although we've a long long ways to catch up to your fish count!
You know I couldn't even tell the exact brand/model (they were just loose in the tackle box) but we had several cheapie silver and orange rubber tube jigs and one with a yellow feather body and a teeny spoon on the front. I like the idea of rolling my own - where do you get supplies for that?
I need to pick some up at the store but if I can't find the ones I used the other night do you (or anyone) have any recommendations? I've always used minnow so I have no idea what to look for plus money's tight so I can't go pick up an armload of styles to see what works best.
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21. July 2006 @ 14:33 |
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@Neph
That's a nice catch of Sac-A-Lait. Did you filet those beauties? Tube jigs are the way to go here now since shiners are $.14 a piece. How deep are you fishing. We usually are fishing oil company canals in the swamps at about 2.5 -3 ft deep under a cork or even tightlined, on some kind of underwater cover(stumps, fallen trees, grass beds). Lot cheaper to fish the swamps than the coast. But the pull is a lot bigger offshore or in the marsh.
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21. July 2006 @ 14:58 |
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Hi garmoon,
We'd have been there all day if I tried filetting so my dad did it - he's a whiz with that electric knife.
Based on results I agree the tube jigs are a good thing, cheap too. I'll hit the local Mom and Pop to pick some up.
We've been using ultralights with 4lb test usually fishing about 15' down with nothing but a sinker 15" up from the minnow. The area we fish is about 30' to 40' deep and through trial and error we've found 10' to 20' to be the sweet spot.
.14 a shiner is pretty spendy. I paid $2.50 a dozen for our minnows and they weren't at all worth it. They were tiny things and because of that we lost a ton of them to pesky bluegill. If they don't hasve some decent size minnows next week I'm not wasting my money.
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21. July 2006 @ 18:51 |
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My way:Crappie minnows run a buck a dozen,then the larger bass/saugeye minnow are higher.
They used to slap a netful in your bucket,but now they practically count every individual minnow.
Buying jigheads: Check out walmart. They'll have pks of jig heads reasonable. They'll also have packs of grubs,twisters,and should have tubes.They won't have a slew of colors,but the basic proven white/yellow/and charteuse.
Definitely making your own jig heads would be cheaper,not including the cost of mold. About 5 cents each for the hooks-eagle claw,and you can usually get free lead at tire centers.
The plastic bodies can be had for a couple cents,if you buy them by the 100 pks. Basspro is the place for them.
Melting down old car batteries got me quite a bit.Have a bonfire,throw in a bunch of batteries-dry of course,and next day-start digging for lead. Don't tell the EPA about me!
There's a slew of different types of jig molds. Some have barbs,to hold the plastic grubs on better,and some for tubes,spinnerbaits,and sinkers. Some have various sizes. Some also have 1 size,but 6-8 cavities. Be cautious of the mold you order,can be confusing.
http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.SearchResults?cmid=TOP_SEA...
Boy those mold prices went up since I bought mine a long time ago. It came as a kit from bass pro,with lead,and melting pot.It's a great starter kit,but the heater they give you needs the help of a torch to keep it hot enough.They also had a huge heating pot for the serious jig makers.
A coleman stove and cast iron skiller works very well,but keep a propane torch close to keep the lead nice and hot. Also keep the mold hot. Too hot,you'll have flashing on the seam-and you'll be trimming. Too cold,incomplete heads-and you'll re-melt them.
It's not cheap to start out with,but over time-it will save $. We used to go through them when white bass fishing at fremont,oh.
2 jigs per pole-using leaders. Rocks tore them up,nicked the lines,and also occasional carp would nail them.Losing 50 jigs a day wasn't uncommon. Catching 200+ white bass was common-and so was spending 6 hrs between 4 of us to clean 1000 of them. Boy I miss those days!! Back then,nobody even thought about using electric knives to fillet fish.
Powdercoat paint runs about $6-$7 a jar,but it's so simple and a heck of a lot faster than the older vinyl paint. Heat the head in a propane torch for a couple seconds,dip in the powder jar,a few seconds to dry and that's all she wrote. 1 jar goes a long way. You can even powder coat your keys or anything else metal with it.Very nice,and durable if your jig fishing rocks.
Vinyl paint: Dip jig in white paint-dry for hours.The fluorescent colors only show up on white paint.
Dip in colored paint-dry for hours. Paint eyeballs one,dry for an hour. Dip in clear coat,dry for hours. Sometimes a 2-3 day process per batch.Very time consuming,so the money you save using vinyl-will save you endless hours with powdercoat. When jigs get hot,ages,hits rocks,or old plastic grubs left on them,then the paint peels off in 1 pc.
The lead fumes are toxic. Look at me, I've been making jigs for years and still halfway normal, LOL. I do it in the winter time,because it's a very hot job. I make a batch of 500 every few years. Most of them are given away,sold at yardsales,or stockpiled in my jig box.
Basspro and cabela's have all the supplies. You may also find them at nearby baitshops.
I got the mold with 8 different sizes. Only making 2-4 jigs per pour,but I can customize the size of hook-per size of jig.Customize my shallow water white bass jigs lighter,along with a bigger hook so I don't lose as many. The barb does take up space,making it harder to hook a fish.
PM me if you want me to send ya some to try out. I've got enough to last me a few years. Saugeye fishing up,white bass fishing must go down.
BTW: Can you get a hold of wax worms? Very effective on bluegill and crappie.Even bass! Very small Ice Jig,tipped with waxworm.
Sometimes they'll hit a waxworm before a minnow. Waxworms my way run about $7 per 250.My walmart have them in small pks of 30.
We used to take 1500 of them up to rice lake ontario for the bluegill spawn,and also tore up the crappie and bass.
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22. July 2006 @ 14:07 |
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Good Lord! Now that's what I call advice! Thank you sir :)
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22. July 2006 @ 16:04 |
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@saugmon, where do you get the powdercoat paint. You got my imagination running wild. Thanks in advance. George
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22. July 2006 @ 19:47 |
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Here ya go george:
http://www.basspro.com/servlet/catalog.TextId?hvarTextId=58661&hv...
Cabela's also has it,but I couldn't locate on their website. Some larger,local baitshops may carry it as well.
Neph: If you can locate the Bass pro shops 2006 angler's catalog,they have a ton of jigs and bodies.
Did you ever see anyone using a spider rig setup for crappie? I've heard they use 4-8 rods per person,and troll for crappie with jigs. Rods everywhere! Tennessee allows each peep to use at least 4 rods,depending on which lake/s they are on.
We're only allowed 2.
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22. July 2006 @ 20:47 |
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We can use as many rods as you want. But we don't troll for sac-a-lait. There is just a daily 50 per person creel limit. Most fishing in south Louisiana is done in less than 10' of water more likely 6'-7'. But freshwater fishing spots are within a 30min drive wherever you live.
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22. July 2006 @ 22:05 |
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Saugmon, I'll look for the catalog, it may be over at my parents place - I move around so much I have all my mags and catalogs sent there. I need to look into waxworms too.
My dad picked up some various tubes and grubs so we'll see what works. I especially like the "Little Hustler" brand - it's got a nice ring to it :D
I've never seen a spider rig set up in use. Here in AZ it's one pole per for crappie but there's no limit. Out of curiosity are trot lines and jugs legal for cats where you're at?
garmoon,
Somehow I missed the "sac a lait" reference earlier. I've never heard that term before and it's kind of neat. Of course I've lived in AZ my whole life so I'm a bit sheltered :)
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23. July 2006 @ 04:10 |
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@saugmon, Thanks for the link. George
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23. July 2006 @ 05:56 |
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Trot lines are legal,but must have your name and address on them. Limits of like 50 hooks per line? something like that.
Jugs: I used to see a lot of them in the small bays at lake erie. I don't see any around my area,unless it's marking a tree stump for removal.
Lots of stumps in my lake. They pulled out a waterlogged stump a few years ago that weighed over 14,000 lbs. They called it stumpzilla. Had 1000's of lures,100's of props,and even a lower unit embedded in it. After it was removed,there was one heck of a crater left.
Sunk a barge they placed it on,so they had to send for a bigger barge.
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23. July 2006 @ 11:51 |
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What the heck did they use to pull that stump?
So who got dibs on all those perfectly good lures? Bet there were a few arguments over that one!
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23. July 2006 @ 12:54 |
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@Neph
Yeah everyone south of I-10 calls em sac-a-lait, north of, they're white perch or crappie. Your's look just like the ones we catch in the swamps. Your's look like white sac-a-lait as opposed to black variety. We have both but the white seem to grow larger. They're not much of a fighter, a big red bull bream can run rings around a sac-a-lait and almost better than sex on a light fly rod. LMAO
The word Sac-a-lait comes from the fine eating flesh of the fish, it is French for sack of milk.
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23. July 2006 @ 14:27 |
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You're right, they're not much of a fighter. Those pesky little bluegill put up a hell of a alot more fight than the crappie do.
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