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Help with new build please
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chewy66
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18. September 2008 @ 05:13 |
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prossessor: AMD Phenom 9950 BLACK EDITION 2.6GHz Socket AM2+ 140W Quad-Core
HeatSink: Dynatron A5JG 77mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler
MotherBoard: BIOSTAR TFORCE TA790GX3 A2+ AM2+/AM2 AMD 790GX
Case: Sunbeam Transformer IC-TR-US-BA-WOPSU Black Steel ATX Full Tower
PowerSupply: XCLIO STABLEPOWER 1000W 1000W ATX SLI Ready CrossFire Ready
RAM:CORSAIR DOMINATOR 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit
Video: EVGA 512-P3-N874-AR GeForce 9800 GTX+ Superclocked Edition 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready
HDD: Western Digital VelociRaptor WD3000GLFS 300GB 10000 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s
I think that perty much sums it all up let me know if you all have any advise
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chewy66
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18. September 2008 @ 05:31 |
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it has a total price of aprox. 1300$
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18. September 2008 @ 23:13 |
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Well just on the Graphics card note, I would recommend the ATI 4870...
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18. September 2008 @ 23:58 |
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GAMING COMPUTER - Intel q9550 @ 3.4ghz | EVGA GTX 260 core 216 | Gigabyte ds3l | 6gb Gskill DDR2 800 ram | Silverstone 700 watt psu | WD 640gb hdd | Seagate 300gb hdd | LG dvd burner | Samsung dvd burner | Antec p182 case | logitech 2.1 speakers | logitech g11 keyboard | Samsung 25.5in 1900x1200 monitor | 19in 1440x900 secondary monitor | Windows 7 64bit | SERVER - Gigabyte 785g motherboard | AMD Phenom 9650 | 6gb ram | three 1.5tb hdd | Seagate 1tb hdd | WD 750gb hdd | two 300gb hdd | Maxtor 200gb hdd | Ark rackmount case | CentOS 5.5
Steam name = "krj15489" alias = Jordan-k
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chewy66
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19. September 2008 @ 04:30 |
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some of the advice is good but the thing about amd vs intel i was thinking about trying amd this time ive always been a die hard intel fan and swore by it but now im not to sure there aint much on eather of the chips and how they compair against each other so im still up in the air on witch im going to go with amd has a good thing going with teh black editions except for the power useage witch is a bit high but what can you do can some one provide me with some specs compairing each of the two chips?
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chewy66
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19. September 2008 @ 04:36 |
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one last thought diffrences between ddr2 800 and ddr2 1066????
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19. September 2008 @ 07:59 |
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AMD were competitive back in the pre-Core 2 days, but ever since they're second rate really. For a high performance high budget system there's no need to use AMDs, they run exceptionally hot, aren't very fast and aren't overclockable.
Krj's build is absolutely spot on, those components will work fine.
DDR 1066 is only necessary for overclocking.
Rough idea
Phenom 9950 is approximately 5% faster than the Q6600, and $25 less. Might seem like a good deal, but it uses 140W, the Core 2 uses 95W, and overclocking the Phenom to anything over 2.8Ghz will be difficult. The Q6600 is a doddle to get to 3.2 if not higher (and note, the AMD is higher clocked by 200mhz to start with). The AMD chip may be $25 less, but if your PC is at load (e.g. gaming) for an average of 4 hours a day, and on but idle the rest of the time, that power consumption difference will cost you $50 in just one year.
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chewy66
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19. September 2008 @ 19:25 |
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thing is i dont pay an electric bill one of the many perks of the navy yaay me any ways lol oc'ing was what the black eddtion was made for from every thing ive read and its capable of aprox 3.0 safely wich every one knows that amd's chips say a slower speed but actualy they can preform upto intel and some times past du to the way they are made correct me if im wrong and sorry for my spelling had to much to drink ha
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20. September 2008 @ 17:41 |
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The core 2 quad Q6600 will make AT LEAST 3.2, bare minimum. Don't forget, at the same clock speed intels are faster anyway, the Phenom would need to be about 3.4 to catch that chip up - and that's the minimum you could do with the Intel, many people have theirs up to 3.6 and potentially beyond. If you're overclocking, dump AMD, Intels have that one sewn up, Black edition or not, AMD chips just don't overclock as well as the core 2s.
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21. September 2008 @ 00:52 |
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He has a point. Listen to him.
AMDs are slower at the same speed, and Intels have MORE speed when both are overclocked.
It's a win-win situation with a Q6600.
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21. September 2008 @ 15:17 |
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That $140 AMD will cost you $300 if you use it for three years based on the power consumption, and that difference will be even higher if you overclock.
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22. September 2008 @ 23:25 |
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when OCed the AMD will beat the intels due to the L3 cache's speed being linked to the clock, SO OCing the X4s result in exponential results.
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22. September 2008 @ 23:31 |
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Yeah? Proof?
3Ghz Phenom vs 3.2Ghz Q6600. Thats about max Oc for the Phenoms from what I have read and easy Oc for the Q6600.
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22. September 2008 @ 23:38 |
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ouch someone is being touchy??? virus annoying you as much as me?? :P
one sec imma go sleep now 4:30am here, but i will get it for you.
and the 9950X4 has been reaching over 3.2 (most 3.4) with the new 790GX mobos.
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22. September 2008 @ 23:40 |
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I actually installed a anti virus thing after like a year and it cleaned it out :p
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22. September 2008 @ 23:43 |
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These improved cores are, of course, now grouped four to a chip, and AMD has added a third level to the cache hierarchy in order to assist with integration of the cores. As a result, each Phenom core has 64K of L1 data cache, 512K of dedicated L2 cache, and access to the 2MB L3 cache shared between all cores. An interesting quirk of the Phenom design is that the L3 cache runs at the clock speed of the memory controller/north bridge section of the chip, which is typically slower than the CPU core clocks. Since the L3 cache is an integral part of the memory hierarchy, north bridge clock speeds will be a key factor in overall Phenom performance.
http://techreport.com/articles.x/13633
thats the theory
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23. September 2008 @ 06:53 |
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Theories aside, in real world benchmarks, the 9950 runs around 5% above the Q6600 stock. Considering its low price that's not bad, but 3.2Ghz and above for a Phenom is extreme overclocking, whereas any old fool can get a Q6600 to 3.1 at least (which will match a phenom at 3.3)
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chewy66
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23. September 2008 @ 07:19 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
Theories aside, in real world benchmarks, the 9950 runs around 5% above the Q6600 stock. Considering its low price that's not bad, but 3.2Ghz and above for a Phenom is extreme overclocking, whereas any old fool can get a Q6600 to 3.1 at least (which will match a phenom at 3.3)
im perty shure that the only thing the Q6600 has on the 9550 is the wats needed to run after all i read if you run the right mobo you can easily out preform the Q
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23. September 2008 @ 07:36 |
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If you overclock a phenom, it will beat a core 2 quad stock. If you overclock a Core 2 Quad, however, it'll obliterate a Phenom, even if it is overclocked.
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23. September 2008 @ 09:53 |
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im still looking for the proof tbh, let me forray a bit more.
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