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article published on 23 September, 2008
Sony and Discovery Communications have announced a new Blu-ray-based promotion in which all buyers of Sony standalone Blu-ray players will receive a free, exclusive Blu-ray title from Discovery.
The promotion will begin on October 5th and is for "a limited time only." Over 11,000 retailers are paricipating in the promotion including Sears, Circuit City and Sony Style, and when purchasing ... [ read the full article ]
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23. September 2008 @ 19:14 |
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Just 1 free disc ? Cheapos
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When Varnull shows (up) , the fun begins !!!
The BPI Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The RIAA Soundexchange Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The IFPI Are: The same anti consumer lot as listed above!
The MPAA Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, DISNEY, PARAMOUNT, FOX.
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23. September 2008 @ 22:42 |
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They can't do anything right can they?
"BluRay's prices are too high - IT's DOOOMED."
"BluRay's prices are dropping - IT's DOOOMED."
"BluRay isn't giving away freebies - IT's DOOOMED."
"BluRay is giving away only one freebie - IT's DOOOMED."
"BluRay is giving away ten freebies - IT's DOOOMED."
There's a universal truth that you all should realize:
There's always someone else who makes more money than you...
...and guess what - he doesn't care.
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Originally posted by Toshibot:
They can't do anything right can they?
"BluRay's prices are too high - IT's DOOOMED."
"BluRay's prices are dropping - IT's DOOOMED."
"BluRay isn't giving away freebies - IT's DOOOMED."
"BluRay is giving away only one freebie - IT's DOOOMED."
"BluRay is giving away ten freebies - IT's DOOOMED."
There's a universal truth that you all should realize:
There's always someone else who makes more money than you...
...and guess what - he doesn't care.
Just LMAO !!!
The BPI Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The RIAA Soundexchange Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The IFPI Are: The same anti consumer lot as listed above!
The MPAA Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, DISNEY, PARAMOUNT, FOX.
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I just decided to save finger work ;)
you like the linkies?
BTW..I don't mind yez calling me Jan. tis me name.. arrrrrrr.. I be pirates....
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Me likee your linkies Varnull !!!
Very Much !
Thanks Jan !
The BPI Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The RIAA Soundexchange Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The IFPI Are: The same anti consumer lot as listed above!
The MPAA Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, DISNEY, PARAMOUNT, FOX.
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Originally posted by Toshibot:
They can't do anything right can they?
"BluRay's prices are too high - IT's DOOOMED."
"BluRay's prices are dropping - IT's DOOOMED."
"BluRay isn't giving away freebies - IT's DOOOMED."
"BluRay is giving away only one freebie - IT's DOOOMED."
"BluRay is giving away ten freebies - IT's DOOOMED."
There's a universal truth that you all should realize:
There's always someone else who makes more money than you...
...and guess what - he doesn't care.
ha ha well said.... just be careful.. you are starting to anger bitter HD-DVD adopters.
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that's the first time I have ever agreed with you..
so drm is bad?
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Ah, damage control from the masters of illusion Sony.
And this come one day after this hit the net.
http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/2072...e-in-september/
Blu-Ray hits the skids, numbers continue to decline
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One of the driving forces behind Sony's plan for the PS3, Blu-Ray, is showing signs of decline.
Blu-Ray hits the skids,
Is this a bad sign?
The cause could be a variety of factors, from the failing economy to the summer gaming doldrums, but the effect is clear: Blu-Ray as a media format is in decline.
The news has to be worrisome for Sony, whose PlayStation 3 console has the Blu-Ray disc format as a cornerstone of its strategy to get a multi-purpose gaming and media hub into homes the world over.
In response to the sluggish sales, Sony even went so far as to drastically slash its Blu-Ray player prices to the magic $200 mark, a la Microsoft with the Xbox 360, with other models going for as low as $250 as of this writing. Tech blog Engadget called the new price points "unquestionably delectable," but another observer at the Industry Standard said the cuts and a number of other indicators betray the fact that conditions may not be so rosy.
For example, in the latest Wired magazine, Sony and Microsoft went so far as to include a free Blu-Ray disc, the seven part film noir flick Coma, as part of a full page insert.
"I don't know how much this is costing Sony and its partners, but it can't be cheap -- Wired's paid circulation is 706,494, and this press release indicates that other magazines may be involved," wrote Industry Standard writer Ian Lamont.
Sony is betting the price cuts (and the PS3) will bolster Blu-Ray in time for the winter holiday, but Lamont is wary--especially as more and more consumers turn to the Internet and services like iTunes for their HD content.
"Sony better hope that mainstream consumers feel the same way [about the price cuts], or the company risks another weak Christmas for Blu-ray this year -- and losing out in an even bigger way when consumers begin to turn to the Internet for their HD content," he said.
Stupid format built around DRM with the ability to change media into a huge licensing rip off via online authentication, just like Sony's PSN WarHawk and their SecuROM DRM on Spore, BioShock, MassEffect, Ect.
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Do you check under your bed to make sure the Sony Monster isn't under there? DRM must be good for Blu-Ray cause every movie I put in my Blu-Ray player looks and sounds Brilliant on my HDTV and Surround Sound. Is DRM causing you problems with your Blu-Ray Player nobrainer? You consistently Whine about it but it seams that you don't even own it.
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And we don't car....re --John Lydon
Take you Sony fanboy crap elsewhere.. THEY lost our trust and favour long ago.. funny thing is trust.
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Originally posted by Toshibot:
They can't do anything right can they?
"BluRay's prices are too high - IT's DOOOMED."
"BluRay's prices are dropping - IT's DOOOMED."
"BluRay isn't giving away freebies - IT's DOOOMED."
"BluRay is giving away only one freebie - IT's DOOOMED."
"BluRay is giving away ten freebies - IT's DOOOMED."
There's a universal truth that you all should realize:
There's always someone else who makes more money than you...
...and guess what - he doesn't care.
Exactly. Some people will ALWAYS find something to complain about. Blu-ray offers great value for money. I get 1080p image, awesome audio (some up to DD 7.1) and extras I could only dream of on DVD.
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Ah, damage control from the masters of illusion Sony.
And this come one day after this hit the net.
http://www.gamepro.com/article/news/2072...e-in-september/
Stupid format built around DRM with the ability to change media into a huge licensing rip off via online authentication, just like Sony's PSN WarHawk and their SecuROM DRM on Spore, BioShock, MassEffect, Ect.
Sounds more like YOU are the master of illusion. DRM doesn't prevent me from enjoying my blu-ray movies. The only people who complain about the DRM on blu-ray are cheap bastards who want to copy movies for free instead of buying them.
The facts are:
- Blu-ray specs are great! Among the current digital media it offers the best audio/visual experience, especially now that HDDVD is defunct. How does DRM hamper your viewing pleasure? Please enlighten us
- Securom =/= blu-ray. This has nothing to do with the current discussion and if you MUST drag it in here, the choice of the limitations forced on users for Spore, Bioshock and MassEffect was not Sony's but EA's. Go bark up that tree if it bothers you so much
While you guys continue to whine like little babies, I'm buying new blu-rays every month (some as low as less than 10 euros per movie) and enjoy watching said movies on my HDTV in my comfy sofa ... it's even better than going to the movie theater.
So by all means, those that want to stay in the stone age can stay there. I'm happy to move on to something bigger and better, DRM or not.
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Nielson and others believe differently...I think most (including I) will "trust" in them more so than just random forum posters.
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It seems Blu Ray has gained steam from the release of Transformers. Blu-Ray media captured 12% of the market share of discs for the week ending 7th September, 2008. The weekly Blu-Ray sales went up by 16% compared to a 37% fall of DVD discs.
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So lets do some math here as the article posted by 13thHouR states "numbers continue to decline" (in which is off topic as usual for some reason ;)
"Continue" is the operative word here
The week to 7th of September saw a RISE of 16+ % ... So if BD sales rise because of the transformers release and in the next week it goes back down to normal levels people now call that "continues to decline"
I call BS. Amazing how certain people don't look at the OVERALL picture of the DOCUMENTED INCREASE OF BD SALES YEAR OVER YEAR and love to focus on one thing just support a biased view for some reason?
Anyway on to more credible information and proof...
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DisplaySearch, the research firm, says worldwide sales of standalone Blu-ray players will hit 2.38 million this year, compared to 700,000 in 2007.....
The DisplaySearch numbers do not include sales of PlayStation 3 consoles, which also include the high-def Blu-ray player inside. With PS3 included, Blu-ray player sales will reach several million in 2008.
The research firm also said standalone Blu-ray player sales worldwide will double next year to 5.31 million. DisplaySearch credits the increase in sales to falling prices, the release of more Blu-ray titles and more purchases of high-def sets.
According to Video Business, Paul Gagnon, DisplaySearch's director of North America TV research, said standalone players will surpass the PS3 as the biggest selling Blu-ray player by 2010.
DisplaySearch released its forecast at yesterday's DisplaySearch "HDTV 2008" conference in Los Angeles.
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Lots of great information so far huh? So what's up next! One of my favorites
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DVD will fail? Sounds a lot like Blu-ray
1. Consumers aren't willing to rebuy movies
They will be the same tired movies that everyone already owns and will be loathe to buy again. [...] Because the titles available will be ones that people already own, they will naturally sell less than a new release that is still hot from the theaters. This will result in even a bigger cost for companies because the less they sell, the more each feature costs to implement on each title.
Right. Just like nobody repurchased their albums on CD or VHS tapes on DVD. This one seems to get dragged out for every new format and is quickly ignored once it takes off. We're not saying that people will rush to replace their DVDs with Blu-ray discs, but it seems obvious consumers eventually give in and repurchase media if the new format is worthwhile. The only difference we'd note is that well-kept DVDs don't deteriorate after use like VHS tapes did, so perhaps consumers will be somewhat less likely to replace their DVDs that still look as good as the day they bought them.
Verdict: Same argument now used against Blu-ray.
2. Not enough movies
All the companies involved with DVD are promising a catalog of 250 titles at the launch with maybe 50 to 100 actually available in the stores in the beginning. [...] And even if they do manage to finish 250 movies in time for the launch, what will those movies be? Top Gun? Rocky?
When any type of new format launches, early adopters are stuck with a pretty limited initial selection. It happened with DVD, and it happened with Blu-ray, which still only has about 650 titles available two years after its release. And we're seeing it all over again with criticism of the selection on online movie services, such as iTunes, Vudu, and the Netflix Player. This argument seems pretty shortsighted overall--if a new format offers a new compelling experience, the content will follow.
Verdict: Same argument now used against Blu-ray.
3. Can't record
Consumers will look at DVD and see that it doesn't record. That will instantly arouse suspicions in their mind that if the movies they want to watch are not available on the DVD discs, then the machine will be useless to them and a waste of money.
DVD recorders are old technology now, but when DVD first came out one of the knocks against it was that it didn't record like VHS--which was a killer feature before DVRs became ubiquitous. Blu-ray recorders are available now in Japan, but we haven't seen any signs of them coming to the U.S. in the near future. But the real issue is that Blu-ray recording just doesn't matter as much with high-def DVRs and so many TV series being released on high-quality DVD and Blu-ray sets.
Verdict: Same argument now used against Blu-ray, but less people care.
4. Nobody cares about special features
Another question is, how many consumers actually want and use all the special features that DVD might offer? CD players offer all kinds of special programming and playback options, yet most people never touch these features. A cheap VCR is seen as too intimidating to most Americans. They just want to watch the movie, not select different versions, languages, and such. The LD market has proven that these extra features are desired, but only by a small segment of the population.
This point has been made about Blu-ray right here on CNET, in Executive Editor David Carnoy's Fully Equipped column. While I tend to agree that special features aren't a big draw for DVD or Blu-ray, it tends to be the icing on the cake, rather than the main draw of the format. DVD didn't succeed because of special features--and neither will Blu-ray--but they're a nice extra.
Verdict: Same argument now used against Blu-ray.
5. Picture quality isn't that much better
And now we get into the most controversial aspect of the entire DVD debate. Picture quality, or the lack there of. When DVD was first announced, it was claimed to offer D1 Master Tape quality. A short while later, the companies said it was much better than VHS but worse than LD. Now they have swung the other way again and are claiming D1 quality again. Quite simply, this will be impossible on commercially prepared, feature-length films.
It seems insane to argue that DVD isn't a huge leap over VHS in terms of image quality, but it's less crazy than you think. It takes content makers a while to fully understand how to use new technology, which is why many first-run CDs and DVDs are surprisingly mediocre. The same thing happened with Blu-ray--anyone who saw the first version of The Fifth Element on Blu-ray can attest to that. But now that we've seen a steady flow of exceptional looking Blu-ray discs, it's going to be harder to find people who aren't impressed by the image quality of Blu-ray on a big-screen HDTV.
Verdict: Same argument now used against Blu-ray.
6. The industry is just greedy
DVD is just a bad idea. It is being forced upon a uncaring and unwanted public and is an inferior product that simply isn't needed or desired. DVD exists only for one reason. Greed. Motion picture studios are always looking for a way to sell the same stuff over and over again and they think DVD is the answer.
More cynical observers might characterize Blu-ray as just the industry's latest attempt to make money on the same movies yet again. But the industry didn't introduce DVD out of the kindness of its heart--it did it to make money--and few people look back on successful formats like DVD and CD as a devious scheme by motion picture studios.
Verdict: Same argument now used against Blu-ray.
So, since the same arguments that didn't matter with DVD are now being used against Blu-ray, does that mean Blu-ray is destined to be as successful as DVD? Not quite. The simple fact is that Blu-ray's main draw is that it offers significantly better image quality than DVD, and whether consumers think that's a worthwhile upgrade will make or break the format. All the other arguments essentially don't matter, just like they didn't with DVD.
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Here is a very good repost I came across from someone else that I do not take credit for referencing the quicker adoption of BD over DVD
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Blu-ray is still being adopted at a faster rate than DVD was when it first released.
That's a fact no one can deny.
http://www.reuters.com/article/technolog...963707920080609
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthrea...936&mode=linear
http://forum.dvdtalk.com/hd-talk/537346-...d-adoption.html
http://www.highdefforum.com/showthread.php?t=73840&mode=linear
http://www.omgili.com/newsgroups/alt/vid...ed+DVD+adoption
http://www.avrevforum.com/showthread.php?t=2095
I can't wait to see what will happen when Iron Man and ESPECIALLY The Dark Knight are released on Blu Ray...will it be doom and gloom for BD again then? I highly doubt it. But we all know there will be just a few forum posters who will stand on their little soap box to make some sort of stink! ;) Just as what the PS2 did for DVD the PS3, HD sources, HDTV's & Digital in general will do the same for BD.
Now I am not at all saying BD will be as big as DVD, I honestly don't think it can or will. But they will both definitely be on the market and make profit and be profitable for ALL companies involved, remember this isn't a "SONY" thing people, no matter what you always say about me...:rolls eyes:.
Which brings me to a quick very important little point, if you continue to insult a moderator don't be surprised & complain when action is taken.
Lastly people forget about the world wide economy and how it affects this topic (and everything else for that matter) in different ways. There are MANY places that just will not adopt or be able to afford BD as of right now and the current sales of EVERYTHING are down, not just Blu Ray discs.
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oddly under my real name I get a damn sight more google hits than you ;)
I have been keeping off the sony bashing because they are just another restrictive big business bunch of scumbags, and they really ain't worth the effort.. Riots at the G8 and all the other "anti globalisation" rallies make my case for me.
Whatever.. if you like it buy it.. just remember what they really want to do is RENT it to you.
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Let the "Sony Bashers" backpeddling begin. It looks like the race is off to a good start.
Oner, you make some excellent points. I wish you would comment more often and put some of these forum members in check. Some of them are on their way to becoming troller and flame starters.
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A good strategy by these companies to get some of the fence sitters to go bluray.
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Originally posted by Oner:
Amazing how certain people don't look at the OVERALL picture of the DOCUMENTED INCREASE OF BD SALES YEAR OVER YEAR and love to focus on one thing just support a biased view for some reason?
Excellent post Oner. Well-argued and well-defended by numbers (unlike the article in question).
The year over year numbers are indeed the yardstick. Just compare the revenue from the 1st half of 2007 and that from the 1st half of 2008 - the slowest buying season for media:
http://www.tvpredictions.com/blu071408.htm
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Consumers have spent $194 million on Blu-ray high-def discs in the first six months of 2008 -- a 350 percent over sales of both Blu-ray and HD DVD titles in the first six months of last year.
So sales have increased by 350 percent over last year and they still consider it as "continuing to decline."
My college professor would have been all over his arguments and would have given him a failing grade. Just poor journalism unsupported by facts and numbers.
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Originally posted by oner:
Nielson and others believe differently...I think most (including I) will "trust" in them more so than just random forum posters.
that random forum poster happens to be Ian Lamont managing editor of the The Industry Standard
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It seems Blu Ray has gained steam from the release of Transformers. Blu-Ray media captured 12% of the market share of discs for the week ending 7th September, 2008. The weekly Blu-Ray sales went up by 16% compared to a 37% fall of DVD discs.
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So lets do some math here as the article posted by 13thHouR states "numbers continue to decline" (in which is off topic as usual for some reason ;)
"Continue" is the operative word here
The week to 7th of September saw a RISE of 16+ % ... So if BD sales rise because of the transformers release and in the next week it goes back down to normal levels people now call that "continues to decline"
I call BS. Amazing how certain people don't look at the OVERALL picture of the DOCUMENTED INCREASE OF BD SALES YEAR OVER YEAR and love to focus on one thing just support a biased view for some reason?
16% of 1 = ????? percentages are pointless as you know what, i made a 10,000% profit a fishing rod i purchased it cost me £0.01 and i sold it for £100 WOW check out those big numbers, you know, i could even put a pie, or bar chart in their for the real stupid ppl.
please don't shout its very rude. please stop trying your hardest to discredit myself, posing information that contradicts is not an issue but SHOUTING AND RED is not very nice.
Engadget you've gotta be kidding me. try to pick a reputable source, not some tech site that accepts Advertising revenue and starting heavily editing all negative microsoft, apple and sony posts from their stories.
Anyway the relevance to my post was that as per usual bad news hits the bloggersphere about sony, and sony try to come back with a never been heard of before new promotion or features of some sorts, and this is just what this Blu-ray promotion is. Its a smoke screen, just as their life with playstation came a day after the sony movie download service gaining notoriety for its restrictive DRM that turns your purchases into nothing more than long term rentals. PlayStation Video Store Hampered by DRM
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Anyway on to more credible information and proof...
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DisplaySearch, the research firm, says worldwide sales of standalone Blu-ray players will hit 2.38 million this year, compared to 700,000 in 2007.....
The DisplaySearch numbers do not include sales of PlayStation 3 consoles, which also include the high-def Blu-ray player inside. With PS3 included, Blu-ray player sales will reach several million in 2008.
The research firm also said standalone Blu-ray player sales worldwide will double next year to 5.31 million. DisplaySearch credits the increase in sales to falling prices, the release of more Blu-ray titles and more purchases of high-def sets.
According to Video Business, Paul Gagnon, DisplaySearch's director of North America TV research, said standalone players will surpass the PS3 as the biggest selling Blu-ray player by 2010.
DisplaySearch released its forecast at yesterday's DisplaySearch "HDTV 2008" conference in Los Angeles.
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Lots of great information so far huh? So what's up next! One of my favorites
all complete conjecture and speculation, you know what i see the sales of 8tracks explode throughout the globe and become the format of the future, which is just as retarded, but point proven.
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DVD will fail? Sounds a lot like Blu-ray
1. Consumers aren't willing to rebuy movies
They will be the same tired movies that everyone already owns and will be loathe to buy again. [...] Because the titles available will be ones that people already own, they will naturally sell less than a new release that is still hot from the theaters. This will result in even a bigger cost for companies because the less they sell, the more each feature costs to implement on each title.
Right. Just like nobody repurchased their albums on CD or VHS tapes on DVD. This one seems to get dragged out for every new format and is quickly ignored once it takes off. We're not saying that people will rush to replace their DVDs with Blu-ray discs, but it seems obvious consumers eventually give in and repurchase media if the new format is worthwhile. The only difference we'd note is that well-kept DVDs don't deteriorate after use like VHS tapes did, so perhaps consumers will be somewhat less likely to replace their DVDs that still look as good as the day they bought them.
Verdict: Same argument now used against Blu-ray.
DVD had very obvious benefits over VHS tapes because of the size, picture quality (no green lines or bleeding, smearing, audio signal would be at the top of picture, bad audio because of unavoidable damage over time), supposed indestructible composite, (which as we all know is complete bull .... but this new great coating will last a million years! blah blah blah.) in comparison to the stretched, chewed up video tape. instant search, and the obvious benefits for manufacturers.
blu-ray has no WOW features over DVD unlike DVD and VHS thats a stupid comparison, other than blu-ray is a larger storage medium & most ppl do not care about a few extra pixels when they own a 30" screen that you can hardly see the improvements over an upscaled DVD on.
You know what, you really take the biscuit, i can't be bothered.
why not just send that rant to sony with your job application, or you could just even say "look what a great job i'm doing here", send sony a link to AD and see if sony will pay for the server costs of afterdawn, and maybe give you a little back hander too, how many sites are your praising sony on now? its gotta be worth something eh!
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Nicely put 13th ;)
Wasn't Norman Lamont that Tory who was getting * round the back of the 1987 Tory conference?
"Remember Luke--- use the farce"
Why do we have to have this same old bollocks every time somebody mentions Sony?.. news items are just that.. news items. I still don't see the need to chew it over, and I'm sure oner agrees.
newbie.. newbie.. newbie.. addict.. member.. newbie.. moderator (don't make me * laugh) newbie.. member.. addict.. interesting reading.
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Somebody place the ban hammer down cuz people are being little babies about something they have no influence whatsoever on Sony's business ethics or decisions used in the real world. I'm sick of reading the same ole posts from Nobrainer and Oner, and also Varnull. It's getting old, maybe its time for another tech site.
And let's get real for a second. Do you really think that your petty opinions are really going to matter to anybody but you three that flame all the articles on Sony all the time? Is it going to influence their products or customer service any? I don't really think so. If you have a complaint bring it to Sony...Period. Why to a tech site that posts unbiased news to people that really appreciate credible sourced news? Grow up you trollers and stop flaming AD with your same song comments. Where's the Ban Hammer Mods?
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All we see is YOUR OPINIONS vs Facts and PROVEN (caps also means emphasis not shouting...) numbers/documentation. I will still rather the cold hard numbers which absolutely REFUTE (that one's a shout) everything you spew. You just can't admit it nor will acknowledge it, so to YOU (emhasis) it does not matter no matter what...which is the problem and why you just don't get it.
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Originally posted by varnull:
Nicely put 13th ;)
Why do we have to have this same old bollocks every time somebody mentions Sony?.. news items are just that.. news items.
Haha ironic
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Originally posted by Hunt720:
Originally posted by varnull:
Nicely put 13th ;)
Why do we have to have this same old bollocks every time somebody mentions Sony?.. news items are just that.. news items.
Haha ironic
Someone who gets it :)
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Originally posted by johnflash:
Somebody place the ban hammer down cuz people are being little babies about something they have no influence whatsoever on Sony's business ethics or decisions used in the real world. I'm sick of reading the same ole posts from Nobrainer and Oner, and also Varnull. It's getting old, maybe its time for another tech site.
And let's get real for a second. Do you really think that your petty opinions are really going to matter to anybody but you three that flame all the articles on Sony all the time? Is it going to influence their products or customer service any? I don't really think so. If you have a complaint bring it to Sony...Period. Why to a tech site that posts unbiased news to people that really appreciate credible sourced news? Grow up you trollers and stop flaming AD with your same song comments. Where's the Ban Hammer Mods?
That's a surprise since all I am doing is clearing up the constant misinformation, spam & off topic posts that people post in the wrong threads...when in all honesty I should do exactly what you ask.
"Just place the ban hammer down"
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 24. September 2008 @ 14:20
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Originally posted by varnull:
Whatever.. if you like it buy it.. just remember what they really want to do is RENT it to you.
I'm probably not as smart as you are, so you'll have to explain this one to me. In what sense do they 'rent' movies to me?
I have DVD's I bought dating back from the first year DVD's were out, and I'm still able to play them without a problem. In fact, I can still play all of them.
Blu-ray? It's exactly the same. Up until this very day I can watch any Blu-ray movie I want anytime I want.
So in what sense are they moving towards a 'rental' policy?
As far as quality goes, the only extra advantage DVD had over VHS is that it wasn't as prone to wear-and-tear as VHS. For the rest, Blu-ray offers the same jump in quality as DVD did. In fact, in the wear-and-tear department, specs tests seems to indicate that Blu-ray doesn't scratch as easily as DVD, but only time will tell if there's a real improvement over durability.
But quality? There's a definite difference in picture and audio quality as well as features (BD profile 2.0). I can notice the difference very clearly on my 37" 10809 LCD TV.
But I guess anyone has their own opinion on that ...
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