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arniearn
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26. September 2008 @ 12:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
hi,could anyone help me please,i have a modded 360 now my kids want a wii for xmas,if i get them one i'll get one pre modded,i know how to back up my 360 games but have no idea what so ever on how to do this on the wii,is it difficult? what equipment is needed?i have a dstt card for their ds is it a similar process to that ?
thank you in advance for any replies
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26. September 2008 @ 12:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
My teacher always told I had to give credit to people :)


"4 Noobs" by penguin98

My generic copypaste newbie answer:
Theres only so many times one can answer a question before wanting to kill someone. And since people DON'T SEARCH I've made this: The generic copypaste newbie response. It contains the answers to the newbie questions that are asked on a regular basis.

Choosing and installing a modchip:

Before choosing a modchip it is important to know what chipset your wii is. Entering your wii's serial number here http://wiitracker.nintendo-scene.com/search.php will give you a pretty good idea what chipset you have. If you cannot do this for some reason then there are a handful of chips that support all chipsets. The wasabi does and the infectus as well (only with the recent update however) There may be others now also, I don't really keep tabs on this particular feature because if you have an older wii then there's not much point spending extra on a more recent modchip when a wiikey will work.

If you have an earlier wii, then a wiikey is probably the way to go. But the Wiikey only works on DMS, D2A and D2B chipsets. If you have a D2C then you need a different modchip. D2Pro, wasabi, argon and infectus, among others, are valid choices. Also, if you have a D2C you don't have to worry about cut pins. Only some D2B chipsets had cut legs. Cut lets made it more difficult to mod the console.

If you are bad at soldering then something to keep in mind is a wii-clip. Solder the clip to your modchip and then you wont have to solder anything to the console. It makes an install MUCH easier, though does have the drawbacks of coming loose and being generally less reliable.

Firmware issues:

At the current time THERE ARE NO WII FIRMWARE UPDATES THAT CAN DETECT MODCHIPS. This may change in the future but for the time being it stands. Some newer games can detect some older modchips (giving error 001) but this can be fixed on some modchips by updating the chip's firmware.

You can safely allow the console to do updates from a game so long and ONLY SO LONG as the game you are updating is from the same region as your console. Updating with a firmware from a different region can brick or semi-brick your console and should never be attempted.

A semi-bricked console can be fixed by running a later update than the one that bricked the console from the proper region. Example: You have a NTSC console at firmware 3.1 and update it with the PAL version of 3.2. The console is now semi-bricked. Games still play but the wii settings cannot be accessed. If you run the NTSC 3.3 firmware it will fix the console.

Questions on firmware 3.3:

Wii firmware 3.3 blocks the twilight hack (not gonna explain what that is here, if you don't know search for it) and it blocks truncha signed disks. Scrubbed disks still work (by most accounts). If you want more info on truncha and scrubbed disks search for them. As was said earlier, NO FIRMWARE UPDATES CAN DETECT MODCHIPS, AND THIS INCLUDES FIRMWARE 3.3

Updating the modchip:

Not all modchips can be updated. There is a very nice for updating the wiikey here http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/597460 but some D2C chips cannot be updated. Others lack the ability to update from a DVD and instead use a USB ribbon cable that connects to the PC. Not going to go into all the details here. Again, if you need the info try searching for it.

Burning disk images:

First off is downloading or backing up your games. If you choose to download one you will most likely get a collection of rar files. There's a guide on what to do with them to get the iso file here http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/555919

Backing up your games is a little more complex, but there are 2 ways to go about doing it.

First off remember that most DVD drives cannot read wii disks. In fact, only 4 models of DVD drive can read them, and they can be somewhat hard to track down.

The second option is to use an SD Gecko, its a gamecube memory card with an SD slot. If you have a modded console you can run a homebrew program that will dump an iso of the game in your wii console to the SD card in the Gecko.

Either way, once you have your iso image the process of burning the game is simpler. Any DVD burner will work for burning wii games. Simply load up imgburn or nero and burn your iso file. I recommend burning at 4x to reduce errors. The brand of the disk used is also important. Verbatum DVD-R is preferred by most, but +R is fine as well. Don't bother with the off-brand disks as you'll probably end up with a bunch of coasters.

That concludes the generic copypaste newbie response. It will probably get longer in the future as more newbie questions are asked, but I think that hits most of the basics.

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26. September 2008 @ 12:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Read the very first thread on the wii page (Ultimate Sticky) You will have every answer to every question you have, but if not just ask after reading. Not trying to be rude but it is already all typed out.
arniearn
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26. September 2008 @ 13:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanks for the help,i did search for the topic but the ones i found were old posts and i thought that with the technology moving so fast these might be dated and therfore redundant,thanks and sorry for being a pain.
ferdyjmg
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26. September 2008 @ 15:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You are not being a pain, This is just a everyday post on here. Hope all goes well good luck with the mod and dont be afraid to ask after searching.
arniearn
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28. September 2008 @ 07:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
ok ,read up on the backup process and think i've pretty much got my head around it,now i'm buying my wii premodded and from the threads i've read the d2pro seems to be the chip of choice ,the other chips i've seen are,D2SUN V1.3,Argon,D2Lite as i'm not worried about the fitting process and just the performence, which is the best? does it really matter as they must all do the same job right?
any views appreciated. thanks.
poopoop
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28. September 2008 @ 22:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
wiikey is the standard for dms/d2a/d2b consoles. D2Pro is the standard for d2c. Other chips are in existance (wasabi/argon/cyclowiz/yaosm/infectus/etc.) -- but those are generally what are used. I personally have a d2a wii with yaosm, and i love it. yaosm is a chip you build yourself out of a 12F629 I/P PIC thingy. (a fancy computer chip that you can get for free). It all depends on your taste.

Things to consider when choosing a chip are:

1: How many wires you have to solder
2: If updates are being made as nintendo releases mandatory paches
3: Price of the chip.

are the main ones. there are other factors, of course. Soldering Experience is a must. There currently is no solderless chip; and on most chips solder points are tiny. If you have never soldered before, go out to radio shack and buy a 15watt soldering iron (about 9 bucks) and some solder (i use .32 dia Rosin-Core solder, $2.99, but there is probably a better option) and some wire and practice soldering that wire to a spare circuitboard you have lying around (find one in pretty much any old/broken electronic device). You can get pretty good pretty fast. If you don't trust yourself, have it done professionally. search craigslist for wii modders, there is definately at least one in your area.

i probably over-complicated this; but thats generally how it goes.

hope i helped.
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arniearn
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6. October 2008 @ 16:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanks for the help,i've decided to have it profesionally done as i have the fear of breaking it but i'll look in to the chips you suggested ,thanks again.
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