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Nero debuts Nero 9 suite, TiVo PC

article published on 29 September, 2008

This morning, the popular software maker Nero AG announced the launch of three new exciting products, Nero TiVo PC, Move it and an updated media suite, now known as Nero 9 If you are interested in purchasing Nero, please visit their site while supporting AfterDawn by using this link: Download Nero 9 If you have any questions about Nero or need help, please visit our unofficial forums ... [ read the full article ]

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1bonehead
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29. September 2008 @ 14:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
For Nero 9 to come out this fast since the launching of Nero 8, must be an admission that version 8 was not all it was hoped to be.
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29. September 2008 @ 15:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
yep cause nero 8 was total sh*t
1bonehead
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29. September 2008 @ 15:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by warriorp:
yep cause nero 8 was total sh*t

I think you said it more eloquently than I did

The BPI Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The RIAA Soundexchange Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The IFPI Are: The same anti consumer lot as listed above!
The MPAA Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, DISNEY, PARAMOUNT, FOX.
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29. September 2008 @ 15:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nero 8 is shtty, anyone know if 9 will be a return to the old GUI?
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29. September 2008 @ 16:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm a BT on these and if anything the interface is more like Vista than any previous version of Nero. More's the pity.
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29. September 2008 @ 16:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by mspurloc:
I'm a BT on these and if anything the interface is more like Vista than any previous version of Nero. More's the pity.
so 9 sucks more?
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29. September 2008 @ 16:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Does anyone know how intensive TiVo PC would be? It'd suck if TiVo'ing a show drags my PC down to the point where its unusable...
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29. September 2008 @ 16:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by atomicxl:
Does anyone know how intensive TiVo PC would be? It'd suck if TiVo'ing a show drags my PC down to the point where its unusable...
In response to the above post, I was just about to say that what sucked for me about version 8 was the #*%&(*&@#& indexing service! They've made some improvements on this in 9, but to be honest, any system you're going to use the TiVo options with had better have at least the specs of a Windows Home Server or MCE unit. It's pretty obvious, too. When I opened the Task Manager while running Nero 7, services.exe would show about 70 MB, version 8, 131 MB, version 9 150 MB. Even on 4GB system, that's unacceptable.

To be fair, all of the non-open source "integrated media home" solutions are hogs. But put this on a system that's also running WMP sharing? No way. You have to choose. At one time, I had Zune, WMP and Bonjour all running at once with 8 as a test. Even getting rid of the other three didn't make that much difference.

I've also tried the TiVo software by itself and it is a drain. It's a great argument for getting a dual core machine that can run more than 2GBs RAM, and so is Nero 9.
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29. September 2008 @ 17:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've tested this out today and here is my thought and explanations:

This version is complete crap just like Nero 8:

1. Same GUI as Nero 8
2. Slow as molasses to start SmartStart or any application in the
suite
3. Retained the NeroPatent Activation program.
4. Dumb as a stump when adding serial number(s)
5. Takes total control over all your media files (at least on my PC
it did) with no option during install to disable this from
happening or within the program itself and buggers up the
Quicktime Icon so it looks like a dead icon
6. Everybodies favorite "Bloatware King"

Overall, I love Nero, that's why I'm sticking to the last stable working release of Nero 7. Until they can figure out why Bugzilla has nested itself in the program, this company will not get anymore $$$ from my wallet.

Quick Tip: Stick with the Nero 7 GUI and release Component Updates instead of buggering the Holy Grail with garbage.
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29. September 2008 @ 17:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by thebox:
I've tested this out today and here is my thought and explanations:
5. Takes total control over all your media files (at least on my PC
it did) with no option during install to disable this from
happening or within the program itself and buggers up the
Quicktime Icon so it looks like a dead icon

Yep, that's the indexing. It's still intensive on resources, but at least now you can throttle it somewhat. With version 8, you were stuck with it. What I'd like them to do is allow you to uninstall or deactivate features you don't want.
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29. September 2008 @ 21:13 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Just go into windows services and disable nero's indexing service(it can be disabled). Now the MMIndex service or whatever it is called doesnt run on start up or even with nero open.
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29. September 2008 @ 22:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yeah, from my limited timing using 8, I also remember it to be totally inferior to 7. Judging from what people are saying, 9 isn't any better so I'll stick to 7 for now.
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29. September 2008 @ 22:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hell, I'm still on Nero 6! lol! I cap, but I don't use Nero to do it. It's good for burning or recoding the discs...that's IT! Any editing program that comes with a cap box will suffice nicely. And NOT gorge on your CPU. Every time I ever attempted to update Nero ALL I ever got was issues and patches. Like M$, they usually had patches for the patches. Index all my files? Poop. INCd cured me of that. I know where my STUFF is and can work nicely on my own.
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29. September 2008 @ 23:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I do not see support of Windows 2000 on the Requirements page... that's no go for me...

I've been using all versions starting with 5.0 (have multiple copies as a matter of fact) ~ I was re-installing XP recently and decided to downgrade back to ver 6.6 <-- it has all I need with minimum fluff
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30. September 2008 @ 00:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sounds like nero 7 it is !

The BPI Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The RIAA Soundexchange Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, EMI.
The IFPI Are: The same anti consumer lot as listed above!
The MPAA Are: SONY, UNIVERSAL, WARNER GROUP, DISNEY, PARAMOUNT, FOX.
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30. September 2008 @ 01:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Probably same as Nero 8 but without the HD-DVD features.
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30. September 2008 @ 02:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
BLOATWARE!!!!

I'll wait for the "Micro" version to come out before giving it a try.
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4. October 2008 @ 05:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I tell youi will give this version ago but if its as crap as version 8 i will permanatly go to cyberlink for good.
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4. October 2008 @ 10:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Not that my opinion matters being a n00b and all, but I love it, same UI as 8 and even faster at burning, or rather less of a resource hog than 8 so it seemed to burn smoother, banged out 5 data dvds in 15 min.. Love it and will not use anything else for certain projects...


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Originally posted by borhan9:
I tell youi will give this version ago but if its as crap as version 8 i will permanatly go to cyberlink for good.

I'd still trust Nero 7 more than Cyberlink 0-o
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Originally posted by Xplorer4:
Just go into windows services and disable nero's indexing service(it can be disabled). Now the MMIndex service or whatever it is called doesnt run on start up or even with nero open.
Yeah, that's true.

If you don't need the media server and streaming features and just want to burn, it's totally unnecessary.

Not an option when you're a beta tester, though. :-)
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Originally posted by Xplorer4:
Just go into windows services and disable nero's indexing service(it can be disabled). Now the MMIndex service or whatever it is called doesnt run on start up or even with nero open.
Listen to this guy. This is the only way to effectively deal with the problem. 100% works. It doesn't involve tooling with your register, and it is safe and simple.

50% of my cpu was sucked up by this "service" that I don't need, and I do the same thing for the windows one too. I only use Nero for the easy video editing. Burn with ImgBurn- free and importantly RELIABLE.
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Originally posted by Xplorer4:
Just go into windows services and disable nero's indexing service(it can be disabled). Now the MMIndex service or whatever it is called doesnt run on start up or even with nero open.
Listen to this guy. This is the only way to effectively deal with the problem. 100% works. It doesn't involve tooling with your register, and it is safe and simple.

50% of my cpu was sucked up by this "service" that I don't need, and I do the same thing for the windows one too. I only use Nero for the easy video editing. Burn with ImgBurn- free and importantly RELIABLE.
Yeah, that's what I did with version 8, but as I said, when you're a beta tester, you can't do that.
If everyone did, the guys at Nero would never know they had a problem.

Let's face it; unless you've got a small number of files on your system, ALL indexing services do more harm than good. They never finish, for one thing.
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5. October 2008 @ 19:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
See all them little round bruises?.. That's from the 12 foot bargepoles that is ;)

Far better freeware applications are available.. Nero is a dinosaur, and apart from all the locked in n00bs who don't know any better it would be extinct too.

Offhand I can't think of anything nero does which can't be done with freeware, though the cover designer is quite nice.
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Originally posted by varnull:
See all them little round bruises?.. That's from the 12 foot bargepoles that is ;)

Far better freeware applications are available.. Nero is a dinosaur, and apart from all the locked in n00bs who don't know any better it would be extinct too.

Offhand I can't think of anything nero does which can't be done with freeware, though the cover designer is quite nice.
No Roxio is the dinosaur, Nero 7 is still one of the best DVD/CD apps out there, Brun img dose an ok job but I have made a few coasters with it and its GUI is not the best for making file/archive discs.

Copyright infringement is nothing more than civil disobedience to a bad set of laws. Lets renegotiate them.
 
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