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30. September 2008 @ 16:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Case:
XION Solaris XON-403 Black with Green LED Light Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811208009

PSU:
CORSAIR CMPSU-520HX 520W ATX12V v2.2 and EPS12V 2.91 SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139001

Mobo:
GIGABYTE GA-EP35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128337

CPU:
Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 Kentsfield 2.4GHz LGA 775 Quad-Core Processor Model BX80562Q6600 - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115017

GFX Card:
XFX PVT96GYDF4 GeForce 9600 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150304

RAM:
Patriot Viper 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 1066 (PC2 8500) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model PVS24G8500ELKN - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220334

HDD:
Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 ST3750640AS 750GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148134

OS:
Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition SP3 English for System Builders 1 Pack CD - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116511

Fans:
APEVIA CF4SL-UGN 80mm 4 x Green Lights LED Case Fan - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811998102
APEVIA CF12SL-UGN 120mm Green LED Case Fan - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811998122

Cathode:
LOGISYS Computer CLK4UV 4" UV COLD CATHODE KIT - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16800888039

Any advice would be great! Thanks!
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30. September 2008 @ 18:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Is it already built, or are you asking for advice?

Case: 3/10 - questionable build quality, poor ventilation and design
PSU: 10/10 - the world's best power supply?
Mobo: 9/10 - it's not well featured, but it's rock solid, cheap and good enoguh for overclocking purposes
CPU: 9/10 - newer steppings aren't what the old ones once were, but bang for buck, the Q6600 still rocks
GPU: 6/10 - XFX are good, and so is the 9600GT, but for that price it's not fast enough to be worth bothering with, get an 8800GT, or better still and HD4850.
RAM: 8/10 - good memory, but Corsair, GeiL and G-Skill are probably the best players here.
HDD: 10/10 - fast, reliable, cost-effective. Good choice
OS: 10/10 - A man with taste, sticks with XP :)
Fans and lights: no point judging really, but a UV cathode will be pointless unless there's UV stuff to light up, and even if there is, the green LED fans will mask it.




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30. September 2008 @ 19:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
"Is it already built, or are you asking for advice?"
Advice :)

"Case: 3/10 - questionable build quality, poor ventilation and design"
I know but sadly it was the old green themed case I could find. Any good case sites beside neweeg and tigerdirect?

"PSU: 10/10 - the world's best power supply?"
Well you recommended it to me in another thread so it better be :p

"Mobo: 9/10 - it's not well featured, but it's rock solid, cheap and good enough for overclocking purposes"
Well I dont have any immediate OCing plans,but are there any other solid boards that are a bit more feature rich for maybe $10 $15 more?

"CPU: 9/10 - newer steppings aren't what the old ones once were, but bang for buck, the Q6600 still rocks"
What would you recommend instead? I am 99% sure I wont opt for anything else but open for opinions :)

"GPU: 6/10 - XFX are good, and so is the 9600GT, but for that price it's not fast enough to be worth bothering with, get an 8800GT, or better still and HD4850."
Is this a sufficient card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133232

"RAM: 8/10 - good memory, but Corsair, GeiL and G-Skill are probably the best players here."
I am a G Skil fan myself, but the Patriot has solid reviews every where I looked and it matches my case.

"HDD: 10/10 - fast, reliable, cost-effective. Good choice"
:)

"OS: 10/10 - A man with taste, sticks with XP :)"
Well I like Vista but I need to stick with something that works with all my apps.

"Fans and lights: no point judging really, but a UV cathode will be pointless unless there's UV stuff to light up, and even if there is, the green LED fans will mask it."
In one case of the reviews it said it would give the green lights more of a glow. And both fans listed are uv reactive if memorey serves me right.

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UV illuminates UV reactive products, but solely UV-reactive products will appear dim in bright LED environments. To make the most of UV, leave out the LEDs and just use all solely UV-reactive stuff, the best way to do that is by yourself with some UV paint. The new GPU you have chosen is good. I would stick with the CPU, the next better chip is the Q9550 which costs a lot more.




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30. September 2008 @ 21:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
On the case air flow issue, I plan to use the 120 in the rear, 80 on the side and, an 80 in the front. Wont this be sufficient? If not what steps should I take to improve cooling for this case? cpu cooler? hdd cooler? gpu cooler?

Thanks for all the feedback sam! Much appreciated!

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If you want green, I would recommend simply sticking green LED fans or a green CCFL in a better case realistically. The 120/2x80 setup cools adequately, but only if the fans are noisy high speed ones. With high end components like those, I would honestly say you should consider an all-120mm case like an NZXT Apollo.



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1. October 2008 @ 12:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
How would 120(2)/80(1) work? I have a feeling the front will take a 120 if not, it would be pretty easy to mod it to fit a 120.
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1. October 2008 @ 12:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You want at least as many fans blowing in as out, if not more as intake fans are typically more obstructed (dust filters, front grilles etc).



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1. October 2008 @ 15:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I looked around a bit more and found a few others I really liked.

First,
Thermaltake Black/Silver Aluminum Side Panel / SECC Body MozartTx VE1000BWS Cube Tower - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811133025

I realize this is more then I need but what can I say, I loved this case months ago when some one mentioned it in there custom build thread on another forum.

Some of the others that caught my eye:
APEVIA X-SUPRA G-Type X-SUPRAG-GN Black / Green SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.amazon.com/APEVIA-X-SUPRA-G-T...882456&sr=1-535

APEVIA Black / Green SECC Steel / Aluminum X-MASTER-GN/500 ATX Media Center / HTPC Case - Retail
http://www.amazon.com/APEVIA-Black-Alumi...2881416&sr=1-81

How will these do? There are some others I have in mind, but keeping things simple :p
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The Mozart is a giant, and will certainly be adequate, but it's expensive. The Apevia cases are both pretty mediocre.



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2. October 2008 @ 11:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Mozart it is. I know it is far more then I need but I may convert my 2 USB drives over to Internal drives.

I am getting a few parts as birthday presents so the money saved will likley balance out to what I was going to spend any ways.

2 Questions though:
1) What length of sata cables should I get? 36 Inch?

2) When it comes to the LED/Cathode set up, would it be possible to install 2 toggle switches to go back and forth between the cathode set up and the LED set up?
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1. 36" will be ample.
2. You could make such a thing yourself, or just have a pair of switched molexes.



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2. October 2008 @ 12:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
1. 36" will be ample.

K thanks!

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2. You could make such a thing yourself, or just have a pair of switched molexes.

Switched Molexes? Where might i find these?
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3. October 2008 @ 16:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks, I think i did care much for something so simple so i did some searching and think I will go with this panel:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/i...products_id=754

Are these fans any good?
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/i...oducts_id=22298
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its better to have more air blowing out than in, so that air is sucked in by low pressure though vents, which are normally placed in strategic places.
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3. October 2008 @ 22:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by spamual:
its better to have more air blowing out than in, so that air is sucked in by low pressure though vents, which are normally placed in strategic places.

I am well aware of that. We're well past that. I asked for opinions on that type of fan and that switch panel.
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my bad, didnt need to get so touchy about it....
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3. October 2008 @ 23:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Wasnt getting touchy just seemed pretty late to be talking about air flow lol.

The case comes with fans but there red from the looks of it and would clash with the green/uv theme i am going for all the way around. So I am looking to find a good black 120 mm fan or a good uv reactive green fan(or one that could be painted uv reactive green :p). I even plan on getting green spiral wrap thats uv reactive.
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http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/i...roducts_id=4073

I use these.

Note, if you're UV-wrapping that many components, you can't afford to have any LED lighting at all, or it will completely drown the UV out.



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you can still get CCFLs though
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You are joking right? CCFLs render UV effects completely invisible - I should know, I've done it.



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no....
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4. October 2008 @ 14:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by sammorris:
http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=4073

I use these.

Note, if you're UV-wrapping that many components, you can't afford to have any LED lighting at all, or it will completely drown the UV out.

I'll take your advice and get those then. Are they really as quiet and smooth as they claim? Not doubting there a good fan if you recommend and use them :p Just wondering if it lives up the hype of the description.

Is performance-pcs a reliable source for parts?

As for the UV/LED I am going to use the switch plate above and wire the green leds or cathodes to one switch while wiring the uv cathodes to another switch on the panel. That way i can go back and forth as I please :p

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Yes they are, I can confirm that.
As for performance-pcs I'm not american so I haven't used them, sorry.
As for your inter-switched idea, I like it, that should look good.



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