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Vista SP2 goes beta

article published on 27 October, 2008

Microsoft has confirmed that a major update for its Vista operating system is coming soon and that Vista Service Pack 2 will enter public beta next week. Unlike Service Pack 1, which mainly packaged together securities fixes, SP2 will come with new improvements which will add support for newer hardwares and technology standards. PC World says the highlights of SP2 are as follows: ... [ read the full article ]

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27. October 2008 @ 17:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I like the MAC commercial where PC takes all the money for fixing Vista and puts it into advertising.
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27. October 2008 @ 18:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Here come those DRM switches we were talking about earlier.
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27. October 2008 @ 18:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by varnull:
Here come those DRM switches we were talking about earlier.

Don't forget Vista crashes and BSODs
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27. October 2008 @ 19:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by varnull:
Here come those DRM switches we were talking about earlier.
What DRM switches?
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27. October 2008 @ 20:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hopefully this time it fixes something unstead of screwing things up.
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27. October 2008 @ 21:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Tis what happens when you rush on operating system out. Tho I have to say, it doesn't seem as though the basic pc user requires any of this. Really it's people like us on this site that have been begging for change.
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27. October 2008 @ 21:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Its just funny how apple says that leopard OS is the most advanced operating system ever.
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27. October 2008 @ 22:01 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Oddly, it doesn't mention anything about fixing performance/stability overall, or anything else a lot of people are really complaining about. Looks like STILL the only reason to get Vista besides that it came on a new computer anyway is for gamers to have DirectX 10 support...but are there any games besides MS's own HALO 2 that ONLY works in Vista? Other publishers would be stupid to only do Vista-compatible titles.
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28. October 2008 @ 00:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I was just about to ask is this why we are seeing all the new Mac & PC commercials on TV recently?
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28. October 2008 @ 00:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
christmas time.
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28. October 2008 @ 00:29 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
A mac is for life (whats left of it before you slash your wrists at the cost and incompatibility of the software) not just for Xmas ;)
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28. October 2008 @ 06:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Suddenly, this makes me feel that XP is really old. Sometime soon I'm gonna have to change to Vista.

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28. October 2008 @ 06:32 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dsgtrain:
Suddenly, this makes me feel that XP is really old. Sometime soon I'm gonna have to change to Vista.

Dave!

NO! Just NO! XP is stable and I have no plans to switch. Don't just switch because it's old. My school just switched to XP last year. They were at 2000.
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28. October 2008 @ 06:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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NO! Just NO! XP is stable and I have no plans to switch. Don't just switch because it's old. My school just switched to XP last year. They were at 2000.

You do have a point. Your right though, I am more than happy with XP at the moment. My school is planning on switching to Vista some point next year so they run the same OS as what the students run at home.
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28. October 2008 @ 12:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Microsoft is so predictable...This'll be exactly the smae disaster they made back with Vista SP1...it'll start crashing computers and rendering them useless unless you format them. This is a strategy to sell their "support" which is nothing but useless...and expensive...

Vista sucks...period.
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28. October 2008 @ 12:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by 21Q:
Tis what happens when you rush on operating system out.
strange you say that - I remember testing an early version of what was codenamed "Longhorn" almost 3 years before the finished product (Vista) was released. Whatever problems Vista caused for users ( and I know there were some major issues ) the last thing that MS can be accused of is rushing it out - it was released almost 6 years after XP came out - their longest ever break in between new operating systems and was at least 4 years in developing.
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28. October 2008 @ 14:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Originally posted by 21Q:
Tis what happens when you rush on operating system out.
strange you say that - I remember testing an early version of what was codenamed "Longhorn" almost 3 years before the finished product (Vista) was released. Whatever problems Vista caused for users ( and I know there were some major issues ) the last thing that MS can be accused of is rushing it out - it was released almost 6 years after XP came out - their longest ever break in between new operating systems and was at least 4 years in developing.
And yet vista is what they came up with ^.^' ...
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28. October 2008 @ 17:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Only time will tell, but... I won't be disappointed or surprised if the service pack turns out to be Lipstick-on-a-Pig 2.0. I've already decided my next home computer is going to be a Mac.
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28. October 2008 @ 19:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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XP is stable and I have no plans to switch. Don't just switch because it's old. My school just switched to XP last year. They were at 2000.

This is also true of MANY corporate IT uses...they don't switch OSes until its been thoroughly proven to be stable enough. Many of them only switched from 2000/2000 Server to XP/2003 Server within the past 2-3 years, so probably won't be switching to anything newer for another 2-4 years.

Like I mentioned before, the only needed...well, not NEEDED, but highly desired by a few feature of Vista is DirectX 10 (which they coulda EASILY done for XP, but needed SOMETHING to try forcing people to upgrade).
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Like I mentioned before, the only needed...well, not NEEDED, but highly desired by a few feature of Vista is DirectX 10 (which they coulda EASILY done for XP, but needed SOMETHING to try forcing people to upgrade).
They've already hacked dx10 awhile ago to work on xp if I'm not mistaken.
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29. October 2008 @ 00:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by 21Q:
Tis what happens when you rush on operating system out.
Do you even have Vista? I recently purchased a laptop with it and after a few hours I was scratching my head wondering wtf everyone is talking about. People have you think Vista is the worst OS and crashes like every 4 seconds and is incompatible with everything.

Mine has yet to crash, its runs quickly and smoothly, all my USB stuff worked the first time. I really think that when people bash Vista its for one of these reasons:

1) Its cool to bash it so they bash it with ZERO experience using it
2) They are Apple fanboys who are steaming mad that Windows now runs on macs, as this is how they let off steam
3) They are so-called pc experts who basically tweaked settings they knew nothing about and broke the OS (despite the OS telling them not to, which they probably ignored)
4) They have a 386 and are shocked that Vista doesn't run well on a computer thats totally out of spec.

If you haven't tried Vista, don't bash it. If you've only tried Vista on a computer thats totally under the minimum specs required, don't blame sluggish performance on Vista being a bad os.

Vista is so much better than XP. Everything is laid out in a way that makes sense. You don't have to hunt for anything (settings and options), its all in a place that totally makes sense, unlike XP and previous OS.

The only complaint I had about Vista was that stupid pop-up that always asks if you really want to change/install/uninstall something. But after it came up twice I turned it off. My only other problem with my laptop was all the crap software HP pre-installed, but thats not Vista's fault nor was it hard to uninstall.
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Originally posted by 21Q:
Tis what happens when you rush on operating system out.
Do you even have Vista? I recently purchased a laptop with it and after a few hours I was scratching my head wondering wtf everyone is talking about. People have you think Vista is the worst OS and crashes like every 4 seconds and is incompatible with everything.

Mine has yet to crash, its runs quickly and smoothly, all my USB stuff worked the first time. I really think that when people bash Vista its for one of these reasons:

1) Its cool to bash it so they bash it with ZERO experience using it
2) They are Apple fanboys who are steaming mad that Windows now runs on macs, as this is how they let off steam
3) They are so-called pc experts who basically tweaked settings they knew nothing about and broke the OS (despite the OS telling them not to, which they probably ignored)
4) They have a 386 and are shocked that Vista doesn't run well on a computer thats totally out of spec.

If you haven't tried Vista, don't bash it. If you've only tried Vista on a computer thats totally under the minimum specs required, don't blame sluggish performance on Vista being a bad os.

Vista is so much better than XP. Everything is laid out in a way that makes sense. You don't have to hunt for anything (settings and options), its all in a place that totally makes sense, unlike XP and previous OS.
I own 2 brand new computers loaded with vista home premium, 1 desktop and 1 laptop and I hate it. I've had nothing but trouble with drivers and getting programs to work properly. After SP1 it stopped recognizing the on-board network port and I couldnt find new drivers for it so I had to go and get a new NIC that said it was vista compatible but guess what it wasn't.

And vista DOES make a computer more sluggish compared to xp or linux, because it pisses away resources for unnecessary things. And I cant remember ever having to hunt for things on XP.

From the sound of things you're basically only using the computer for small things and not doing much with it besides browsing. If you do anything other than that with it it tends to blow up in your face.
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29. October 2008 @ 09:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes the first opinion you get from Vista is 'Hey, sweet... I like this..." But give it a few months and you'll discover its hidden teeth
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29. October 2008 @ 10:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I use Vista for the same stuff I used XP for:

Web browsing, office, watching video (mostly H.264 and Xvid) and making/mixing/recording music (Cubase, FL Studio, Adobe Audition and a bundle of Native Instruments VSTi plugins).

All my interfaces for music had Vista drivers so installation was super smooth. All my programs that worked on XP installed perfectly on XP. All the video drivers and programs installed and worked perfectly off the bat.

If your gear doesn't have drivers for Vista... the OS has been out for over 2 years. Blame lazy developers for that.

I still use XP on my home computer and in terms of functionality and software working, both computers are equal with the laptop being performing better because its got higher specs.

I can see people not wanting to buy a retail copy of Vista and upgrade, but people who get a new computer and uninstall Vista from a new pc to downgrade... I think they just jumped on the anti-Vista bandwagon or approached the OS wanting to hate it and surprise surprise, they ended up hating it.
 
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