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i need help with new nec burner
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shyambali
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14. February 2004 @ 22:01 |
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hi everyone, i have recently purchased an NEC burner and i am completely lost in how to use this stuff. I have 1 cd/RW drive and one DVD/RW drive. What programs will i need to purchase and what will i need to do in order to be able to back up my dvd movies? Can someone plese explain to me step by step.
Thanx in advance
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14. February 2004 @ 23:08 |
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Hi,
Welcome to Afterdawn!
The first thing you should do is spend some time here reading as much as you can. Don't forget to read the forum rules.
We need to know some things too!
Tell us about your computer, what OS, CPU brand and speed, how much RAM you have and your hard drive capacity. What CD/RW do you have? What DVD player are you going to watch the movies with?
The movies you backup are usually too big to fit on a blank disc, they are also encrypted to prevent you from making a copy. Overcoming this is done during the ripping process.
A program such as DVD Shrink can compress and decrypt your movie to fit. Make sure your source discs are clean and don't have any big scratches, I always clean and inspect my movies before copying them.
Once completed, you have your movie sitting in a folder on your hard drive. Make sure you have room before you start, video files are quite large.
Now you need to burn the folder to a blank disc using a burning program. Make sure you start out with high quality R/W discs that can be reused, you might make a mistake!
A program like Nero 6 will work with DVD Shrink and start the burn process without much effort on your part. Once the burn begins, leave your computer alone untill the process is complete.
I don't know enough about your system to tell you if you sould use +R or -R blank media. That's why it's important to be very specific when you tell us about your system. there is more than one type of NEC burner for example.
Programs:
Download free DVD Shrink:
http://www.afterdawn.com/software/video_software/dvd_rippers/dvd_shrink.cfm
Download 30 day free demoversion of Nero 6:
http://www.nero.com/us/download_nero.php?pak=1
Guides:
http://www.chrismccann.co.uk/user_guides.htm
http://www.dvdshrink.info/guides.php
Cheers,
Frank
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shyambali
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14. February 2004 @ 23:20 |
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the nec burner i have is NEC 1300 ND-1300A 4X DVD+R(W)/-R(W)
Computer: Hallmark
Viewmaster AMD Athalon XP 1800 + 1.53 GHz 512 MB ram 37.2 GB but 27 are used. My CD/RW is a sony (dont know the model number, i want to watch the movies on my home dvd player which is a sansui that can play DVD/VCD/MP3/CD-R/CD-RW/CD Player.
Will the DVD Shrink program rip it? and can i use DVD-RW in my dvd player?
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14. February 2004 @ 23:59 |
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Hi Again shyambali,
You may have too little hard drive capacity for things to work properly, try it though 10.2 GB may be enough room.
Shrink will rip your movie, but will not burn it. It will only back it up to your harddrive.
Shrink and Nero work together to do the steps needed to copy your movie on to a blank disc.
Use high quality -R/W media for your first attempts, mistakes are very common for beginners! When you can complete a disc with no errors and it can play in your computer, try it in your Sansui.
Frank
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shyambali
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15. February 2004 @ 00:53 |
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thankyou fasfrank i shall go buy some high quality ones and try it...you have been very helpful
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shyambali
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15. February 2004 @ 21:23 |
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ok sorry another question...i own Nero startsmart...how do i change it to classic view? instead of the complex one?
its Nero startsmart OEM suite 1
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16. February 2004 @ 00:08 |
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Hi again shyambali,
Smartstart to classic Nero 6 Burning ROM:
Click on your desktop smartstart icon> odd smartstart window opens> switch to expert mode at the bottom> Select DVD from the tab at the top> click on the copy & backup icon at the top> select copy disc from the icons on the right.
Burning ROM opens> CLOSE the new compilation window> click on file, upper right and select new from the drop down menu> new window opens. Select DVD at the top right and below that Click on the DVD-Video icon.
Follow this guide:
http://www.dvdshrink.info/nero-video.php
If you have the new version of Shrink, it should burn using Nero automatically.
Good luck,
Frank
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 17. February 2004 @ 13:03
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shyambali
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16. February 2004 @ 22:24 |
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i used DVD Shrink and it put the files on the computer, then it said there was some lock and it couldnt be burned. Nero wont let me burn it when i use smart start copy disk it wants to burn a direct copy (cd to cd) wat do i do?
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17. February 2004 @ 13:02 |
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Tell me exactly what that lock message said.
You missed a step using smartstart:
Switch to EXPERT mode at the bottom of the opening screen.
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ScubaPete
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17. February 2004 @ 18:08 |
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Hi Y'all,
Just a short note, While using an RW disc for your first backup, don't be too surprised it doesn't play in your standalone DVD player - most standalones don't care for RW media, they want the single write stuff instead -
Second, NEC ND 1300A burners, although advertised as a dual burner, they like +R media and not -R. It is possible that a flash upgrade can remedy that I don't know for sure as my burner is a USB unit and can't be flashed.
Just don't get excited if it wants +R stuff (It will burn -R media but ONLY AZO advanced dye application stuff)
Last, If you can't find Nero Classic, remember that it is a OEM and so may not have the whole package installed -
Pete
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shyambali
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17. February 2004 @ 19:22 |
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ScubaPete
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18. February 2004 @ 09:13 |
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shyambali,
EXCELLENT !
Now we're getting somewhere :-D
This is what my post wanted you to "Note". When you have a program installed OEM, generally it isn't a complete program, which this isn't -
OK, here's what we're going to do -
I want you to download and install Nero's Demo version (good for 30-days) and then we'll show you how this will work - first - here is your link -
A 30 day, free, fully functional Nero 6 download can be had here:
http://www.nero.com/us/631939541422774.php
Once you have that installed Nero, use the following exactly :-))
Step by Step ?
Do not use Nero Wizard.
When you open Nero Burning ROM, you will be at the ?New Compilation? window. Directly under the title ?New Compilation? is a choice block to choose either DVD or CD, choose DVD. Directly under that click on the DVD Video Icon. Then click ?New? in the upper right corner of that screen, NOT the main screen.
You now are in the DVD Video window. In the left screen, click VIDEO_TS. In the File Browser screen, 3rd from the left, trace your path to the VIDEO_TS folder, the one you made in the beginning, holding your work and click on that folder. All of your VIDEO_TS files are now opened in the right screen. Click on the top file, hold down the ?Shift? key and then click the bottom file thereby hi-lighting the entire column of files. Click and (holding the left mouse button down) drag the entire column of files to the open screen, second from the left.
Now click the icon on the task bar that shows a match on a disc, and then click ?OK? and now ? ?Burn you sweet thing, Burn Baby, Burn !? ? ?Let me hear you say it, Who?s your Daddy Now ????
(Wheeew, now I need a cigarette)
Guess what my Friend ?? You are done !!!
STEP AWAY FROM THE COMPUTER ! ! Keep all fingers and toes away from Ms. Computer. Never mess with the lady when she?s working ? it would be hazardous to your health, you understand -
Go and have your coffee, when Nero is done she will let you know ;-))
Enjoy, ?P?
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18. February 2004 @ 16:15 |
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Hi Pete, your Nero link looks wonky :D
If I may....
http://nero.com/us/631939541422774.php
Im impressed by that screenshot of Nero SmartStart! I still think that classic burning ROM is there. But I may be wrong. I notice that the Nero icon at the bottom is faded out.
I would really like to see the very first screen that opens when you click and open StartSmart. The screenshot you provided is the one that comes up when you are not in the expert mode.
I would like to see the screen before this one.
Pete is usually right on target and a download would definitely work but I am just not convinced that you don't already have it.
Cheers,
Frank
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shyambali
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18. February 2004 @ 16:31 |
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followed ur steps scuba pete but the following message came up:
Burn process failed at 2.4x (3,312 KB/s)
meaning?
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18. February 2004 @ 16:40 |
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Can you post the Nero log?
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shyambali
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18. February 2004 @ 19:00 |
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ScubaPete
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19. February 2004 @ 12:57 |
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shyambali,
No worries, anyone can get that message, the reason is usually that someone was using the PC when Nero needed 100% of the resources as happens for brief periods when burning - since you followed my directions and didn't touch the computer, it was probably something running in the background -
I'd like you to go to msconfig and shut everything down, reboot and give it another try -
About that error message, that's why we're using that RW disc, so we don't lose anything.
Again a reminder, when you get a successful burn and it plays in your PC, don't get excited when your Sansui doesn't play it - that's when we burn a single write disc - that should play OK.
One last thing, I want you to open your PowerDVD or what ever player you have (except WMP, we don't want to mess with that) and play yourVIDEO_TS folder that DVDShrink made for you to be sure your files are OK :-))
Ship Mr. Frank your Nero log and see if he finds your Nero Classic (I'll bet ya a pound and 1/2 of Therian Pins ya don't find it :D
Let me know how ya make out -
Pete
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20. February 2004 @ 18:17 |
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Hi guys,
Error
Cheers,
Frank
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20. February 2004 @ 18:18 |
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Hi guys,
Shyambali,
Look at the screen when Nero is done burning and just select the button that says "save log" then just cut and paste it from the location you saved it to into your post.
Pete,
Nero started to act up after I tried (and failed) to clean up my C, D drives by moving some programs around.
I ended up just uninstalling my Nero 6.
I had no problems loading package 1 back on but I cannot install package 2, (nve2108) the one with Express and Recode2.
I get one of these:
"An error occurred during the copy process (file name:)
Error: 183
Cannot create a file when that file already exists.
Please reboot your computer and retry."
I have tried everything I can think of to no avail. I have run all the Nero tools, rebooted 100 times, removed every program that I've installed over the past 3 months, snooped around in the registry and have done a couple of system restores, but so far nothing works.
I downloaded Burning ROM with package 1 so I don't have a problem burning, I just want to get package 2 with Recode back.
Hopefully the inquiry I made to Nero Tech support will provide some answers.
Any suggestions?
Cheers,
Frank
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shyambali
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20. February 2004 @ 19:07 |
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20. February 2004 @ 22:50 |
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Hi Again Shyam,
You have your Nero set to copy CDs.
On the very first page of Nero Express you need to select your recorder correctly.
Go back to the first window and look in the upper right corner for a drop down menu titled:
"Which recorder would you like to use?"
From this menu select the one that looks similar to this:
NEC DVD-RW ND 1300A [DVD]
The important thing is the [DVD]!
I can tell from your screen-shot that you have it in CD mode. Look at your destination drive, it says:
F:_NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A [CD-R/RW]
When you get the opening window menu item set correctly, the small icon labeled Nero at the bottom of the next window should fill in with color. Select it when it does! That will change Nero Express to "classic" Nero Burning ROM.
I would still like to see the first window that opens with Nero, the one before the window you posted.
Your Shrink error is very odd. What exactly are you trying to burn? Are you removing or changing discs after Shrink has finished analyzing?
What your screen-shot indicates to me is that a successful analysis of %2(Volume Serial%3) took place, but was removed after analysis completed.
Now that it is ready to encode it needs %2(Volume Serial%3) put back in your %1 drive.
Apparently Shrink was able to successfully analyze the disc and you were able to get through to the encoding process by selecting backup. At this point the process failed.
Frank
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ScubaPete
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21. February 2004 @ 11:34 |
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Frank,
Looks like you had an incomplete uninstall - did you check C:/program files/ahead ? If you still have it, delete the Ahead folder -
You might also check with Nero support to have a tech give you ALL the things Ahead may have installed in your registry - They have other things there besides what has their name attached -
Pete
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21. February 2004 @ 14:20 |
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Hi Pete,
I did delete that and evrything else I could find. I used Nero's clean tool which is supposed to remove everything in preperation for a re-install, Then I went back in and tried to find anything in my C:\ program files left over. I also went into applications and looked for Nero/Ahead stuff. All of it was gone.
Im still waiting for a response from Nero support about this specific error message, I have spent way to much time digging around looking for this file.
They have a tool called an installer log that is similar to their infotool but I haven't been able to get it to work. Its supposed to make a log of the file getting installed.
Cheers,
Frank
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