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evga or xfx 285?
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drako17
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19. February 2009 @ 22:50 |
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its between xfx 285 black edition or evga gtx 285 ssc
hxxp://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4398460&CatId=2306
hxxp://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4398466&CatId=3669
i know the price is high.
i just need help choosing between these.
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20. February 2009 @ 06:20 |
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gera229
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20. February 2009 @ 20:44 |
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Sammoris the GTX 285 might aswell be better than the HD4870x2 in overall. But the only reason is that they provided NVIDIA games this year. and if they provide ATI games sooner or later then the HD48780X2 would probably be billions times better than it is currently. So this year the NVIDIA graphics cards may be better. But if you choose to crossfire or wait up maybe ATI games will really be provided then go ahead and go for the HD4870x2 I personally would get either one They're both good cards and I don't know weather you should get the EVGA or XFX. I heard some bad and some good reviews about EVGA and I don't know anything about XFX quite yet.
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20. February 2009 @ 23:16 |
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I say XFX but then again that all I've ever ran until next week I'll be running a EVGA.
Intel E1200 Celeron 1.6(OC 2.6) 800Mhz LGA 775, MSI Mobo, Western Digital (2X500GB, 1X320GB, 1X120GB)
3Gbs DDR2 Ram, NVidia EVGA 8800GTS 640Mbs DDR3
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21. February 2009 @ 00:18 |
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EVGA, you get a step up program for 3 months plus good warranty. I've been buying evga since i got my 8800GT last Feb, then i got a 680i, along with a 260 Core 216.
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21. February 2009 @ 05:15 |
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Lol @ Gera.
Please stop posting utter nonsense. There are no 'ATI games' or 'nvidia games' - there are those that take part in nvidia's The way it's meant to be played, but ATI do not have such a scheme themselves. What you will also find is that with 3/4 of the games that use 'The way it's meant to be played' ATI hardware pretty much matches nvidia, and sometimes even beats it. Long gone are the Doom 3 days when graphics brand literally determined whether the game would be playable or not, it's all pretty equal now, and given that the GTX285 is usually bested by the HD4850X2 which is two thirds the price, you must need to heavily use very specific titles that don't have crossfire support to justify throwing away $200 on a GTX285.
If you want to stick with nvidia but have any sense, buy an XFX GTX260 Black. The overclock on it is such that it's within 10% of the GTX285, and it only costs $250 or $260 from newegg.
Overall, brand-wise, XFX seem to best EVGA quite handily purely based on the large pile of faulty stuff I've seen be posted at afterdawn, you just don't hear of anywhere near as many problems with XFX, and I highly doubt that's because they're not popular.
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gera229
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21. February 2009 @ 13:58 |
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Sammoris I didn't post nonsense I posted almost what you meant. Oh so your saying that the GTX XFX 260 Black is only 10% worse than the gtx 285? which is it's 90% of it? Well that's what I heard for the gtx 280. And that means gtx 280 and gtx 285 are the same exact thing? Anyways sam thanks for making my post make sense you like forwarded to it. What about the gtx 295? I see the benchmarks for the gtx 295 one are way above the HD4870X2 and I think it's worth the price.
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21. February 2009 @ 15:28 |
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The GTX285 and GTX280 are about 10-12% apart, but the GTX260 Black is actually faster than the GTX280 (since they're the same card with different clock speeds, though the GTX280 has a bit more memory).
The GTX295 isn't really worth it - the reason I say this is because the only need for cards that powerful are for very high resolutions with AA applied, and the GTX295 completely collapses at those settings, where the HD4870X2 does not. The GTX295 is also considerably more expensive than the HD4870X2.
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gera229
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21. February 2009 @ 15:42 |
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But wouldn't the black edition show less benchmarks still? Thanks.
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21. February 2009 @ 20:35 |
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That sentence doesn't make any sense...
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21. February 2009 @ 20:37 |
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sammoris, there is no doubt that the HD 4870x2 is a great card, but the OP asked between the two choices whether XFX would be better or the EVGA. The 4870x2 does have its advantages here and there, but so does the gtx285. they both will vary and play differently with each game, so there is no reason NOT to get the 280, unless you just like ATI cards or visa versa. heres a review on the XFX 285 black edition comparing it with an 4870x2.
http://enthusiast.hardocp.com/article.ht...W50aHVzaWFzdA==
personally i would go with the XFX black edition.
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21. February 2009 @ 20:58 |
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I wouldn't say that the HD4870X2 is always better than the GTX285, but the utterly marginal difference between an overclocked GTX260 and the GTX285 (yet a huge price difference) means that the 285 is still a pointless card. You are essentially spending $150 on 7 or 8% more performance, in typical games. The HD4870X2 may not be such a sure bet, but it offers a considerable amount more than 7 or 8 % in the games that work with it.
In properly coded games (for instance, Fallout 3 and Far Cry 2 in the HardOCP test) the 4870X2 cleans up (and the 4850X2 would also do well). GTA4 and Call of Duty World at War are well known to have problems with the game engine and this means they fall down with crossfire performance. Crysis Warhead is merely a heavily biased nvidia title. Overall, I still maintain the 4870X2 is a far superior card (value-wise) to the GTX285, as is the GTX260, before you think I'm biased.
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drako17
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21. February 2009 @ 23:50 |
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ok then so your saying that there is no point in getting the 285. instead i should get the 260 since its alot cheaper and could be overclocked to be 10% less than the 285? is that correct? i also read that the 260 was over heating. so whch is the best one. where i dont ahve to worry about heat?
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22. February 2009 @ 06:57 |
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Given that the GTX260 and GTX285 use the same cooler, I doubt you'd get any more or less problems using the 285.
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dragnandy
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22. February 2009 @ 19:09 |
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drako was there any reason why you had to pick a gtx 285? what resolution are you going to be playing at? type of games you will be playing? if money is no option you can just get a gtx 295 and be done with it, but then if your playing on specific resolution or playing games like WOW, then it'd be a waste of money.
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gera229
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22. February 2009 @ 19:54 |
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drako17
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23. February 2009 @ 00:19 |
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resolution at the moment is 1280x960. ill be getting a 1080i plasma tv. as i dont use a monitor. as far as games go. ill be playing supcom, gta 4 hawx, fear 2, and well every new game that comes out this year. at least the one worth getting.
so i should just get the 260 black edition? i mean if it saves me some money for more less the same performance then ill just get that one.
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gera229
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23. February 2009 @ 00:21 |
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Draka I recommend you get hd 4870x2, gtx 260, or gtx 280 for that resolution. 285 or 295 will be more than enough so it's pointless. Unless your getting a very very high resolution. Peace.
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drako17
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23. February 2009 @ 00:31 |
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yea i might as well get the 260 black edition. ill use the extra cash to get 2 500 gb hard drives. thanks for all you all's help.
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dragnandy
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23. February 2009 @ 01:19 |
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yea i think with 1080i, the gtx 260 would be enough. dont leave out the HD 4870 though, which in short, is like the ATI counterpart of the gtx 260.
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gera229
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23. February 2009 @ 02:26 |
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Yea i forgot the HD 4870 but get the 1gb version if so cuz that's what Im thinking of.
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23. February 2009 @ 11:19 |
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Firstly, ignore the article from About.com
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It's a close race between the HD 4870 X2, the GeForce 9800 GX2, and the GeForce GTX 280 in terms of overall performance
Is one of the least accurate statements about graphics I've read in a long time.
1280x960 is a higher resolution than a 1080i Plasma, as 1080i Plasmas use 1280x720, or more often, 1024x768 resolution panels - for such a low resolution, you don't really need anything more powerful than an HD4850. 1GB is also unnecessary as such a low resolution won't even use 512MB with 8x AA applied, even in games like Crysis Warhead and Supreme Commander.
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drako17
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23. February 2009 @ 11:31 |
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is bfg or pny good brands? whats the difference between them. i know evga and xfx are on top. so are these the next in line?
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23. February 2009 @ 11:46 |
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In my opinion, it's a bit of a toss up between XFX and BFG for first place, I'd put EVGA third, perhaps even lower than that. Palit and Gainward are very well placed brands. PNY, Leadtek and the likes are more average and sit beneath.
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drako17
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23. February 2009 @ 12:24 |
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i was reading about the new 40nm cards being released in Q2 09. i have the money on hand. i have 500 to spend on a video card. dont want to get one and then regret not waiting. which will probably happen regardless. i have till 3pm central time to make up my mind.
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