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3. March 2009 @ 12:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
My 360 has just red lighted with this error message and i was wondering if anyone else has had this as it seems very suspicious that i only got this when i plugged in the internet to my xbox 360 and it happens just after they say i am a month out of warranty. So i was just wondering if people have had this and if so how much had their warranty expired. Im pretty pissed as i have an elite console and most people are suprised to hear it happen on that machine and then microsoft try and demand £80 repair fees.


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5. March 2009 @ 18:15 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
you can repair your self. it is caused by a cold solder joint. but usually the fix will eventually go bad. Happens because of the heat generated by the xbox. As far as timing that's just bad luck.
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5. March 2009 @ 19:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What gets me is i have the extra three fans for the back and have checked the back and it is spotless in terms of dust and shit i just think i was unlucky with this one lol. I also read that alot of people are confused between if its a heatsink problem or a chip that deals with the hdmi cable


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5. March 2009 @ 19:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
its usually either the ANA or HANNA chip you can do the xclamp replacement and heat up the chip. I have fixed one this way been working about 2 weeks. just don't expect it to last forever. As far as the extra 3 fans you dont mean the INTERCOOLER do you? These have been shown to actually cause damage to the xbox
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6. March 2009 @ 08:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Rickster0:
My 360 has just red lighted with this error message and i was wondering if anyone else has had this as it seems very suspicious that i only got this when i plugged in the internet to my xbox 360 and it happens just after they say i am a month out of warranty. So i was just wondering if people have had this and if so how much had their warranty expired. Im pretty pissed as i have an elite console and most people are suprised to hear it happen on that machine and then microsoft try and demand £80 repair fees.
I know this doesn't really help. Its still funny though.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXVJXFA5Wq0][/url]

Alternatively, get on to customer support go through all the TS etc etc, then when they say you have to pay say you're going to buy a PS3, they bend over backwards tyhe majority of the time
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6. March 2009 @ 18:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by kiesouth:
Originally posted by Rickster0:
My 360 has just red lighted with this error message and i was wondering if anyone else has had this as it seems very suspicious that i only got this when i plugged in the internet to my xbox 360 and it happens just after they say i am a month out of warranty. So i was just wondering if people have had this and if so how much had their warranty expired. Im pretty pissed as i have an elite console and most people are suprised to hear it happen on that machine and then microsoft try and demand £80 repair fees.
I know this doesn't really help. Its still funny though.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXVJXFA5Wq0][/url]

Alternatively, get on to customer support go through all the TS etc etc, then when they say you have to pay say you're going to buy a PS3, they bend over backwards tyhe majority of the time
I done all that and they still didn't give a shit but its alright cause trading standards are forcing the store i got the console from to give me a replacement so i will be laughing either way. As for the intercooler it shouldn't matter if its on or off you do not expect an expensive console to last a year i have had my ps2 with no problems ever for about 6 years now.


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6. March 2009 @ 19:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
For E-74 you have to do the xclamp replacement/penny/ana-hana chip fix.

The only reason you have to do these is because you can damage the xbox more if you don't have the xclamp replacement and penny mods done. Make sure when you do your xclamp/penny mod you stack up the pennies next to your washers on the bottom of the tray to make sure they're lower than your washers. The ram sits lower than the board and if the pennies were the same height as the washers it would be flexing the board where the ram is (causes a rrod 0020 error). I usually use only 1 penny and some puddy that's on the back of the refurb xbox's to make the pennies stick..... Look up "penny fix" if you don't know what i'm talking about, or if you think you're putting bare copper on the heatsinks.

So with that said go to the hardware store or look around your house for a heavy object to set on that chip. I went to the hardware store and bought some lead pipe. You want to insulate that object from the chip (ana/hana) so wrap the end that's touching the chip in electrical tape.

Reconnect the dvd drive without the air tunnel or fan in place. Then plug in your fan and rest it on the top of the dvd drive as shown in llammas rrod tutorial.

Then you want to seperate your xbox up so only the cpu gets airflow. It involves using a piece of 8.5x11 paper and folding it to make a wall between the cpu and the gpu. Then you want to make sure the wall continues past the chip so it doesn't get any air flow.

Now place the heavy object on the chip and overheat the xbox for a good 15 minutes. You'll see that since you limited the flow of air to the gpu the xbox heats up fast. You'll hear the fans start to speed up after a few minutes.

Monitor the xbox for the whole time you're overheating it. You don't want to just let it overheat and check your watch at the 15 min mark, you want to constantly check to see how hot that gpu is getting.

The gpu will make that ana/hana chip get hot enough to reflow the cold solder points under the chip. After 15 minutes turn off the xbox and let it cool down, then take off the heavy object and try to power on the xbox.

I've fixed maybe 5 or 6 e-74 xbox's this way so i know that it works. If this process doesn't work for you then tighten down your screws or bolts, maybe reapply the thermal paste, or get a heavier object and try the overheating process again.

Let me know how it goes for you guys, and remember to use common sense when trying any of these fixes.

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7. March 2009 @ 19:46 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by C4RN1:
For E-74 you have to do the xclamp replacement/penny/ana-hana chip fix.

The only reason you have to do these is because you can damage the xbox more if you don't have the xclamp replacement and penny mods done. Make sure when you do your xclamp/penny mod you stack up the pennies next to your washers on the bottom of the tray to make sure they're lower than your washers. The ram sits lower than the board and if the pennies were the same height as the washers it would be flexing the board where the ram is (causes a rrod 0020 error). I usually use only 1 penny and some puddy that's on the back of the refurb xbox's to make the pennies stick..... Look up "penny fix" if you don't know what i'm talking about, or if you think you're putting bare copper on the heatsinks.

So with that said go to the hardware store or look around your house for a heavy object to set on that chip. I went to the hardware store and bought some lead pipe. You want to insulate that object from the chip (ana/hana) so wrap the end that's touching the chip in electrical tape.

Reconnect the dvd drive without the air tunnel or fan in place. Then plug in your fan and rest it on the top of the dvd drive as shown in llammas rrod tutorial.

Then you want to seperate your xbox up so only the cpu gets airflow. It involves using a piece of 8.5x11 paper and folding it to make a wall between the cpu and the gpu. Then you want to make sure the wall continues past the chip so it doesn't get any air flow.

Now place the heavy object on the chip and overheat the xbox for a good 15 minutes. You'll see that since you limited the flow of air to the gpu the xbox heats up fast. You'll hear the fans start to speed up after a few minutes.

Monitor the xbox for the whole time you're overheating it. You don't want to just let it overheat and check your watch at the 15 min mark, you want to constantly check to see how hot that gpu is getting.

The gpu will make that ana/hana chip get hot enough to reflow the cold solder points under the chip. After 15 minutes turn off the xbox and let it cool down, then take off the heavy object and try to power on the xbox.

I've fixed maybe 5 or 6 e-74 xbox's this way so i know that it works. If this process doesn't work for you then tighten down your screws or bolts, maybe reapply the thermal paste, or get a heavier object and try the overheating process again.

Let me know how it goes for you guys, and remember to use common sense when trying any of these fixes.
Like i said i ain't fixing anything i haven't had it long enough for that to be my responsibility as for your guide thanks but it seems very risky heating up the inside components to such a heat as to re-solder itself lol probably why most consoles don't last much longer after the fix. Just using a friends whilst i wait for mine to be sorted.


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