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Succesfully installed the homebrew channel is it safe to set up wireless?
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scoobyuk
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10. March 2009 @ 09:13 |
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Basically im on firware 3.1e i havent used my wii in over a year lol
I managed to install the homebrew channel (after numerous failures down to a dodgy SD card!) and I just wondered whether I can set up my wireless network on my wii? Will it prompt me to download network updates and are they optional? Im thinking i shouldnt accept network updates if I do set up the wireless.
I found one other thread that mentioned this but there was no clarification.
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cvas828
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13. March 2009 @ 07:26 |
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Yes you should be okay to setup your network, BUT if it does happen too prompt you to download do not update. There are other and safer ways to update. If it does happen too ask you to update deny and try googling something to the effect of "safe update for wii"
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scoobyuk
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13. March 2009 @ 15:01 |
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Thanks for your reply i took the risk and after setting up my wireless it prompted me to update but I just declined it and was good to go, it also asked me to accept the term for the shop channel as they'd changed since I last used my wii but I just declined the terms I dont use it anyway.
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penguin98
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13. March 2009 @ 17:49 |
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@cvas828
I corrected you about updating in another thread but here we go again. Online is the safest way to update the wii. It prevents risks such as updating from a wrong region game or using a homebrew app that can confuse newbies and cause them to mess something up.
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cvas828
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13. March 2009 @ 22:22 |
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@penguin
Yes I remember that thread on mod chip updates and you were correct about certain games having new security checks. BUT, I guess I did not make myself clear here. I dont advise against updates because of hombrew compatibility issues and because I think it is harmful to the wii. I advised not to update here because of the 3.1 menu running and the advantages of a system menu 3.2 and below are quite prominent. As far as wrong region game updates and complicated applications, I find this irrelevant and anyone running different region games should come across, at some point, the aforementioned hazards. Updating your console via these "confusing" apps is not very hard
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penguin98
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13. March 2009 @ 23:26 |
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You're assuming that people can read and follow a guide. Thats a very dangerous assumption.
Also, in your other thread you said
Originally posted by cvas828:
but currently it is not safe to update to the current firmware because they can detect modchips, but some mod chips are implementing a "stealth mode" you have to check your mod chips manufacturer for this info.
And thats completely WRONG. WRONG WRONG WRONG! So if I'm a little short with you then thats why. Well... that and the alcohol, but thats just now, not earlier when I pointed out that you were wrong.
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cvas828
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14. March 2009 @ 01:37 |
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No I'm assuming people will research and fully understand all risks before attempting any modification. And yes your quote was from a PRIOR post which was on CHIPPED wii's, and since he made a reference to "a dodgy SD card" I'am assuming it is soft modded and to protect his current firmware i suggested to not downgrade. Although, I would like to thank you in correcting my "wrong" advice in the prior thread.
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penguin98
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14. March 2009 @ 07:07 |
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Originally posted by cvas828:
No I'm assuming people will research and fully understand all risks before attempting any modification.
I have no idea why you would make this assumption. Most of the people coming in here do not understand what they're doing and are usually working from an outdated or incomplete guide.
As for the advantages of running a lower system menu... well they're rather few. You can install wads and cIOS's without the wii fix which is a plus. But you cant play any recent wiiware games or some of the new games coming out now.
Perhaps instead of saying 'DO NOT UPGRADE, its not safe' you should instead say that updating can effect some homebrew and if he uses any of the effected programs he'll have to install a patch to unblock them again. If he just uses the homebrew channel for the emulators like me then the update wont effect him at all. We dont know the whole story, so you shouldn't give advise based on what you think he might be doing.
Also, he said nothing about the backup loader or if he had a modchip, so again: it is dangerous to make assumptions.
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cvas828
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14. March 2009 @ 18:29 |
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Like I stated before I stand corrected on the upgrade issue, BUT your statement on people not knowing what they are doing or working from an outdated guide proves exactly why I expect them to "research" ie. ask questions, read multiple threads, look into multiple forums. Also, I said nothing about not knowing what to do but rather knowing the hazards of doing it. I have system menu 3.2 and can run ALL games. Your statment about the backup loader and modchips has no relevancy, I never mentioned anything about the backup loader or modchips. YOU first mentioned running wrong region games and I then reponded. As far as assuming if he has a mod chip or a soft mod it was really based on fact. "I managed to install the homebrew channel (after numerous failures down to a dodgy SD card!)"
In my opinion, if he is suffering "numerous failures" and a bad SD card there is only one assumption that can be made.
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penguin98
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14. March 2009 @ 20:30 |
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Perhaps you can run all game disks on 3.2 but you cant run all wiiware. Maybe it doesn't matter to you or most people, but there are some its relevant to.
And since all homebrew can be run equally well on 3.2 or 3.4 your claims about 'quite prominent advantages' is nonsense.
Also nonsense is your belief that he must be running the softmod. All he said was that he installed the homebrew channel with a dodgy SD card. He said nothing about the backup loader. He said nothing about a modchip. Going from 'dodgy SD card' to 'backup launcher' is quite a leap of logic.
You are assuming FAR too much. I cant count the number of people who have come on here because they messed up their wii trying to use the region changer because they thought it was required to play import games, and thats just problems from ONE homebrew app. For every person who does adequate research and figures things out there is another who blindly follows a guide with no understanding at all.
This is really getting out of hand. The fact of the matter is that online updating remains the simplest and quickest way to update the wii, especially for newbies with dodgy SD cards. Staying on the lower firmware has no real advantages at the present time, but updating doesn't really gain anything either. Its just a matter of opinion which one you think is better. I'm not saying either one is better, I simply took exception to the way you told him. Answers like "do not update. There are other and safer ways to update" are why we get people on here every day asking if an update is going to brick their wii.
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cvas828
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14. March 2009 @ 22:09 |
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Penguin,
Like I have stated I stand corrected on the upgrade issue. The real nonsense here is your statements about me mentioning modchips and the backup launcher which I never did. YOU mentioned wrong game region and application erros which I pointed out was irrelevant to the topic at hand but I added in someone who is running these types of games should come across the risks. The real "logic" here is that updating can be done different ways through apps and through nintendo and choosing to update really brings minor if not any advantages with it. Please don't put words in my mouth, and we can just make peace and say you were right about updating.
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penguin98
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14. March 2009 @ 23:25 |
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You didnt bring up modchips or wrong-region updates and I never said you did. I brought them up because you were assuming that they weren't an issue because of the backup loader which you did bring up.
I'm realize that I did get snippy and I apologize, but you were perhaps over defensive as well. I got upset with your explanation because, though you weren't really wrong, I've seen people take similar advice completely in the wrong direction and then need to be corrected again later, often after confusing other newbies with their misunderstanding.
Hopefully we can put this behind us and get along in the future.
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cvas828
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15. March 2009 @ 01:31 |
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No hard feelings penguin.
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