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normoose
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28. April 2009 @ 18:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi,
I am using AnyDVD to decode, DVD Shrink to recode to an .iso and Nero9 or Roxio Creator Premium 10 to write.
My problem is when trying to backup my letterbox DVDs, the copies are not filling the letterbox frame. There is a space at the top and bottom of my letterbox frame.
Full screen movies can be backed up to identical and play great.
I have been searching but have not found a thread that addresses this issue. I am sure that there is a resolution on this site somewhere and I am an advanced user but I am tired of looking. Please excuse my duplicated thread as the case may be.
Any assistance will be grately appreciated.

Norm
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28. April 2009 @ 19:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Can you post a screenshot?

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normoose
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28. April 2009 @ 19:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Originally posted by dialysis1:
Can you post a screenshot?

A screen shot of the recorded movie playing?<br />Could be a pibcac error as your slogan states.PersonInBetweenComputerAndChair!
I am using an HP Pavillion dv7t notebook with an Intel 2 duo 2.13GHz 64 bit CPU/1066 MHz FSB, 8x SuperMultiDrive, 4 GB DDR2 800 MHz, ATI Radeon 512 MB dedicated, 320 GB int HDD, 500 GB and 250 GBx2 ext HDD.
I will upload a screen shot as soon as I figure out how. Thanx alot for your reply!

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99% of all problems are between the computer and the chair.

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normoose
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Dialysis 1,
I am having one h@ll of a time trying to figure out this forum. Please bare with me. Thanx.

Norm
normoose
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28. April 2009 @ 19:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dialysis1:
http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l200/Dialysis1/2522.jpg

Does it look like this?

No. It does not fill in the letterbox frame like the one on //photobucket. Yours looks the way I want mine to look.

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28. April 2009 @ 19:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What's the name of some of these movies. That may help.

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normoose
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28. April 2009 @ 20:03 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Predator, Predator vs aliens, Jump, Next, just about all letterbox format movies. I have a HD 17" WXSVGA BrightView wide screen display on my notebook.

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28. April 2009 @ 20:22 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
For a minute I thought you had some widescreen movies that were actually 4:3 letterboxed but the movies you describe are true widescreen movies. I would need to see what you're talking about.
You can go to a place like Photo Bucket and upload a screenshot and then paste the link here.

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28. April 2009 @ 20:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I will do it and post the URL. These are 16:9 or vise versa and are widescreen format.

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28. April 2009 @ 20:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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I have a HD 17" WXSVGA BrightView wide screen display on my notebook.

Maybe it the software you're using and the way it's set up.


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normoose
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28. April 2009 @ 20:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by dialysis1:
For a minute I thought you had some widescreen movies that were actually 4:3 letterboxed but the movies you describe are true widescreen movies. I would need to see what you're talking about.
You can go to a place like Photo Bucket and upload a screenshot and then paste the link here.

Hey Again,
You can see a screenshot at <img src="http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt339/normoose/Untitled.jpg" border="0" alt="unfilled letterbox" />. Thanx man!

Norm
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28. April 2009 @ 20:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/tt339/normoose/Untitled.jpg

Sorry but I am new to this site as well. You can see it at the URL above. Thanx.

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28. April 2009 @ 20:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What software are you using?

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28. April 2009 @ 21:39 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am using AnyDVD to decode, DVD Shrink to recode to an .iso and Nero9 or Roxio Creator Premium 10 to write.
I really appreciate your persistant assistance dialysis 1!
I have uploaded another screenshot with better contrast.

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28. April 2009 @ 23:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
pardon me for jumping in,
but since you have access to the original dvd,
how does the image differ when the original is used?

Secondly, the image you provided has an aspect ratio of 4:3
Did you encode a W/S movie as non-anamorphic ? (4:3)

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normoose
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Originally posted by davexnet:
pardon me for jumping in,
but since you have access to the original dvd,
how does the image differ when the original is used?

Secondly, the image you provided has an aspect ratio of 4:3
Did you encode a W/S movie as non-anamorphic ? (4:3)
Thank you for jumping in! I am recoding a disc right [8x tops] now but will get some print screens for you to look at from a 17" panel with that aspect ratio of 4:3. I will do the same for the notebook disp[lay's aspect ratio of 16:9 and will post some images of the original to compare.
I do not know what you mean by "Did you encode a W/S movie as non-anamorphic". What is W/S? ooooh! WideScreen!
No I did not change the aspect ratio from the original intentionally but I may have. I have just upgraded AnyDVD to vs 6.5.4.3.
How do you change from the original aspect ratio?

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29. April 2009 @ 00:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I'm not that familiar with the tools you're using,
but in general it's done in the mpeg-2 encoding stage.

It seems logical that anydvd/shrink would just preserve whatever
was in the original dvd, but because I'm not familiar with them,
I can't say for sure 100%.

Do some more testing and gather the screen prints - perhaps we'll
figure it out.

Usually, if a software player puts up a 4:3 window,
it means the dvd is non-anamorphic. For example, I use Powerdvd,
and you can get the dvd information while the disk is playing.
It clearly tells you if it's encoded for 16*9 or 4*3.

What is the res of your W/S monitor?

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29. April 2009 @ 01:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hello people!
If you go to http://s625.photobucket.com/albums/tt339/normoose/ you will see that the problem is with the discs, I believe. One of those crap in, crap out deals.

res on both displays 1024x768. I can try others but I think that I tried that already. Will let you know what I find out.

Thanx for ya-all's assistance!

Norm
normoose
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29. April 2009 @ 01:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I changed my notebook screen resolution to 1280x720 and I almost fill the frame. Now to see if I can record with this res and be able to play discs on my TV! You can see the difference on http://s625.photobucket.com/albums/tt339/normoose/

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29. April 2009 @ 04:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I asked you for a screenshot and that's what you provided. I should have asked you for a frameshot instead which is what I provided. I used PgcEdit to get the shot of an actual frame. VobBlanker can do the same.
I beleive there's nothing wrong with your movies. You just need to adjust your software's display settings.

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normoose
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29. April 2009 @ 05:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I agree! Have you ever heard of the ID-TEN-T error? Spelled another way is: ID10T........I really appreciate your efforts to assist me. Thank you.

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3. May 2009 @ 07:51 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
normoose for one thing roxio and nero don't play well togeather so get rid of roxio, there is a special tool to totaly remove roxio i think it is roxio zapper, also make sure that you have not changed the output setings for shrink
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normoose
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Thank you for your input but I have realized and read where some DVDs can not be perfectly copied using AnyDVD. I would get rid of Nero before Roxio/Sonic because it does more with more features and tweaks. Thanx again for the support and valuable [to me] information.

Norm
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