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Comcast and uTorrent Please Help
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Shinraboy
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14. June 2009 @ 13:28 |
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So yesterday I got Comcast because the speed was faster. It is faster but it caps/blocks my torrents. Is there a workaround or solution to this its INSUFFERABLE :-( Please help
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14. June 2009 @ 14:14 |
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I have Comcast and do not have cap/block issues.
I suppose it can vary by area, but Comcast has pretty much gotten out of the interfering with P2P since the FCC called them on it.
I am not sure what makes you certain you are capped/blocked. Speeds on torrents can vary as your down speed depends on the upload capacity of active users. You can try this torrent as a test of down speed:
http://torrent.unix-ag.uni-kl.de/torrent...1-04-EN.torrent
You might also try enabling encryption at Option>Preferences>BitTorrent (Allowing incoming legacy connections).
Have you taken a speed test and capped upload in uTorrent accordingly since your change in ISP. Setting upload to 80% of overall upload capacity will get better speeds.
Is your network connection icon showing green?
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Shinraboy
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14. June 2009 @ 16:01 |
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Does this look normal?
this right here. This caution thing ^ never seen it
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15. June 2009 @ 09:25 |
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You should be getting faster, although I can not tell how long you have had it running. It does take about 5 minutes or so for it to get to full speed.
Your network connection icon is showing yellow, which might indicate your network connection is not cleared.
Try testing your uTorrent port, while utorrent is open, here :
http://www.canyouseeme.org/
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Shinraboy
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15. June 2009 @ 10:14 |
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Ok. I went there and it kept sending this back
Error: I could not see your service on xx.xxx.xxx.xxx on port (45682)
Reason: Connection timed out
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15. June 2009 @ 12:34 |
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You should x out, or delete, your IP address from your post. No need for everyone to see it.
I did not see your statement on the caution at the bottom of the image post. Were you getting a green there before?
Do you have a router? If so, what is make and model?
Same for firewall?
Did you set exception in firewall and re-do router forwarding after the switch to Comcast?
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Shinraboy
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15. June 2009 @ 22:41 |
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Lets see my router is a cable router that the comcast tech dropped off
Ambit- Model Number:U10C018.80
That's connected in to my Wireless Router which is
Belkin Wireless G Router Model: F5D7230-4
Regardless of the companies I've used I've always had that wireless router.
In terms of a firewall I don't have one. Just that whole windows firewall that comes with xp but I think that's off anyway.
Any ideas?
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16. June 2009 @ 05:25 |
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What Comcast gave you is probably a modem without firewall capability.
Routers and firewalls will block communications unless an exception is made. You can still download while firewalled, but your speed can be greatly slowed depending on if the other users are firewalled.
http://bt.degreez.net/firewalled.html
You can either enable UPnP in uTorrent at Options>Preferences>Connection or manually forward the uTorrent port as this guide shows
http://www.portforward.com/english/route...-4/Utorrent.htm
You can also have uTorrent auto set an exception in the Windows firewall at Options>Preferences>Connection.
I would suggest trying UPnP and the firewall option in uTorrent and see if you get the green network icon. Then, if you do, you have time to go through the manual forwarding if you wish.
Also, capping upload at 80% of your connection's upload capacity will help speed. The more upload you send out, the more download you will receive back from other peers. However, if upload is set too high, or to unlimited, this will interfere with communications and down speed will suffer. The Adjusting Internal Settings section of this guide has info to help with that:
http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/...rrent-speed.htm
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Shinraboy
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16. June 2009 @ 14:06 |
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Quote:
Also, capping upload at 80% of your connection's upload capacity will help speed. The more upload you send out, the more download you will receive back from other peers. However, if upload is set too high, or to unlimited, this will interfere with communications and down speed will suffer. The Adjusting Internal Settings section of this guide has info to help with that:
http://www.techsupportalert.com/content/...eed.htm
Ive done everything and still nothing. Still I havent tried this upload cap because I don't know how....
Also Could it be uTorrent? Would the client i'm using make a difference at all?
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16. June 2009 @ 15:16 |
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When you manually port forwarded (make sure UPnP is disabled then), did you need to set a static ip address and did you set one, is your port over 10,000 and set not to randomize at option's>preference's>connection (think it is on new version's)? To set your upload, take this speed test: http://www.speedtest.net/ multiply your mb upload by 1024 to get kb (kilobit's) and enter that at option's>speed guide>connection type (choose # closest to your's) utorrent will set it to KB (kikobytes) that utorrent show's for you. Take this test at various time's (morning, late aternoon and evening, (cable fluctuate's depending on use, specially after school). A new client may help occasionally but hard to say, utorrent should have been showing green on that unix download though depending how long it was running. Vuze can be quite heavy but run's great here plus jeffw224 is a pro on it, another that is supposed to be quite good and light is Deluge, never used it though, and only reason I mention it is that Azureus (Vuze) and utorrent used a feature from it, Protocol Encryption, I think plus I heard it was good at resisting Comcast throttling once.
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16. June 2009 @ 19:08 |
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I do not think it is about uTorrent.
I think you would have the issue with any bittorrent client.
If you were still failing the port test with UPnP enabled and the firewall exception checked, it might be something else blocking.
Do you have any other security software?
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Shinraboy
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16. June 2009 @ 19:32 |
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Nope. Just the one that comes with windows but im pretty sure it's turned off. Tonite i'm going to try the manual thing again. Any ideas on what else could be interfering?
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16. June 2009 @ 21:31 |
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The modem does not have firewall capability.
You do not have any anti-virus or other security software which might interfere.
The firewall is turned off, and you tried the uTorrent set exception in Windows firewall anyways.
You tried UPnP and still did not get a clear port.
I saw you were not using a port in the 6881-6999 range.
I can not see what would be blocking.
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Shinraboy
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16. June 2009 @ 23:39 |
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WOOO HOOO!!! YEE HAWW!!!
Okay total spaz moment. So I manually forwarded again. Next I noticed 2 Comcast programs on my pc so I uninstalled them. That got the torrents in the green for good but still insanely slow. Then I noticed something in my control panel. Pando Download Accelerator something or other. I uninstalled it. Unplugged and plugged my routers back in and BAM. A torrent I was downloading was going a max of 35kbps is currently at 502.2kbps. This is fantastic. Right now it's 11:38 PM still at 502. I will try again in the morning to see if this holds up. I'll keep you posted and thank you kindly ^_^
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17. June 2009 @ 08:27 |
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That is interesting.
Do you remember what the two Comcast programs were?
Anyhow, good to hear. Much nicer to use torrents at 500kBps rather than 35kBps.
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Shinraboy
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17. June 2009 @ 09:49 |
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Lets see...one of them was a Comcast Desktop Monitor (a fairly simple connection checker) the other was Comcast Desktop Protection (something like that) and it was a mini firewall for spyware. But I think the one that really did the slow down was Pongo Download Accererator. It was set a max of 1000kbps in and out. I shut it down and uninstalled it. Pretty cool actually. Granted it still takes a bit longer toget started. But once it does it seems to go pretty fast...
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17. June 2009 @ 12:55 |
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Thanks for that. I have run across a few people with Comcast that have had issues opening a port and I am now wondering if they got those softwares also.
I understand Pongo was affecting your speed, but those two appeared to block your port and there may be speed issues with a blocked port depending on how many active users on a torrent are also firewalled.
Thanks again for getting back.
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Shinraboy
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17. June 2009 @ 13:25 |
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No problem. Thanks for the help!! ^_^
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Mez
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23. June 2009 @ 08:56 |
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It may or may not be Comcast. They can kick your ass if they want to so you need to take care. They can shut you down or just your torrent traffic down to 0 for as long as they want.
You need to use the scheduler and kill all traffic and DHT during business hrs for the country. You also need to limit your speeds. Although they advertise 200g they start attacking at 50g and get nasty by 100g. That is prorated. If you are complianing that you are blocked at 125 KB. Get used to it! 150 is safe if you only do weekends. You can do much more if you only DL one weekend a month. 100 is about all you can get if you do nights & weekends. On the East coast midnight to 8 AM is safe for business days. The weekends are fine. If you do all that Comcat will leave you pretty much alone.
Someone has jammed your router. It may or may not have been your ISP. You can try unplugging your router for a second. That will unplug it. It may be some robot has a thing you your address. In that case you will get jammed again right away. Torrents are pretty nasty these days. A large portion of the heavy users have moved on leaving an unfriendly ratio of killer robots to targets. I don't even do much and I was blown out of the water yesterday morning. They had disabled Peerguardian after less than 12 hrs of light activity (under 15 KB). I am sure the attack was not Comcast. They are predictable and are concerned with monthly upload totals. A g on a weekend is well under their radar. I blame it on a rouge 'DHT spider', a robot app that surfs the DHT blasting nodes with poison packets. There are maybe a hundred of these robots that try to get into your computer and if that fails, spray you with 'poison' then move on. The packets target things like your router but also disrupt software. I am sure they have been extreamly effective at reducing torrent traffic. No one I know, takes torrent downloads casually any more. They have either cut back or stopped. I will upload less and do far less torrents than I have. I have an insaine ratio. Comcast does not care about uploads because they are hardware capped but the spiders do not care about rates. They are on a search and destroy mission. If they find you, they will f*ck with you.
I would suggest using more private sites. That icon is for a blocked DHT port. Private trackers do not use DHT. That icon can be red (shut) and you can still get flows. You also attract less spiders.
Oh, Mistycat, Comcast was able to overcome all obsticals by 6/08 including port forwarding. By 9/08 they were able to throttle torrent traffic to 0 for ever and not effect other traffic. It was the complete traffic throttle that really got them in trouble with the FCC. I am sure they log where you go if you are in there naughty list. They realize P2P users are a large portion of their customer base and leave you alone if you play by their rules.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 23. June 2009 @ 09:11
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Shinraboy
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23. June 2009 @ 09:25 |
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Actually the port forwarding is clocking in fantastically. 500 kbps steady and even not dropping below 499. After two days the icon became a red exclamation point so I just changed the number...
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Mez
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24. June 2009 @ 07:43 |
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That does confirm that it wasn't Comcast, it was the roving DHT spiders. They are the ones that block the DHT port. However if you keep it up that rate you will have problems with Comcast. Then you can see how good you really are. They do not block the ports they can selectivly throttle downloads. You will be able to surf OK but will not be able to DL at all (that means any kind of down load including FTP). If you can still circumvent that enough to get 200g in a month, they drop you. That is their published polacy. Persons using newsgroups thought they had it made only to lose their ISP.
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Shinraboy
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24. June 2009 @ 12:22 |
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I'm a little confused. If I download 200gb a month I get axed?
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24. June 2009 @ 12:48 |
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Depend's on your cap and how Comcast handle's overage's. Too much and they will, at least, let you know, cut service's and eventually kick you. You have a TOS you're supposed to abide by. My ISP has the right to charge for every G over my cap but never has charged anyone yet. I'm over my cap every month and nothing is said but by too much and they'll warn me, do it again and I'll be looking for a new ISP. Just as a comparison, my cap is 60 G but if I keep that under 150 G, I'll never hear. That said, 200 G is a fair amount, be a little more selective if need be but, like I said, depend's. You could also look into Newsgroup's, no uploading but not exactly free either.
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Shinraboy
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24. June 2009 @ 13:10 |
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This crosses over into something completely new for me. I've tried learning about those Newsgroups....they seem really hard and I've even Google'd until I was blue in the face. Any pointers?
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24. June 2009 @ 13:40 |
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Newsgroup's only sound difficult but are easy as Bittorrent. All you need is a Newsreader (Grabit-free or NewsLeecher-not free but excellent, lot's of other's), a Newsserver (Giganews, Powerusenet-excellent support, Astraweb-none free unless your ISP has one, usually not), a Newsgroup like NZB Matrix (best I've found), Merlin's Portal or BinSearch (just a free search engine), QuickPar (free-to open par's and do repair's first) and whatever you use to open rar's. Some reading for you: http://www.slyck.com/ng.php or http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/389304 (nowhere near as complicated as this sound's, a main thing is getting a server with as much retention as possible-amount of time file's are available to you).
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