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janlafata
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25. June 2009 @ 01:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've been authoring and burning AVI files, anywhere from 500 MB's to 1.37 and above to disc for awhile now with no trouble. But now I have these two files, one a 545 MB and the other a 505 MB AVI, that, when placed together in the same burn project, causes red flags to go up in the software.

ConvertXtoDVD said that both together were too large, (though I've since had to uninstall that program) and Ashampoo Burning Studio says that the the files will burn but it will have to make adjustments for them to fit

I just don't understand why I have burn AVI's that are much larger and never had any problems, but now two slightly over 1 GB in size files together are causing problems. Is there some other factor to take into consideration that I'm missing?
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25. June 2009 @ 03:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
When you convert them, the size increases dramatically. If all you want to do is burn AVI files to a disc, use ImgBurn.

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25. June 2009 @ 17:47 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The original poster seems unaware that it is the running time
(in hours and minutes) that is the problem and not the file sizes
(in MB).
janlafata
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25. June 2009 @ 22:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Stupid me! I didn't even think about that! So how do you shorten the run time, or is that not possible?
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26. June 2009 @ 00:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
You don't shorten running time, you lower Bitrate when converting which lower's file size. Sound's like 2 avi are a bit much for 1 DVD; around 3 hour's is max on a regular DVD and preferably around 2 hour's although the quality is personal preference.

This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 26. June 2009 @ 00:19

janlafata
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26. June 2009 @ 02:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
So, theoretically, you can have two 500 MB files but each one can have a different running time? And you can lower bitrate and that lowers file size, but that never changes running time, is that correct?

Yea this whole thing with these two files really threw me for a loop! Each file was listed as close to 2 hours in length, but when I played them back, they were actually more!

Luckily, the burning software that I am temporarily using until I can get the hang of another one, Ashampoo, was actually able to squeeze both files down to where I got them on one DVD, though I'm not going to go that route again!
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26. June 2009 @ 11:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes, they will be of different length, avi size and running time are not connected, Bitrate determine's final comverted size but also quality, Bitrate = quality. If you're able to set Bitrate, get a Bitrate calculator. I would assume your two avi converted to one DVD weren't the greatest quality.
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7. July 2009 @ 04:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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A DVD can only hold 2 hours' long video.

You are mistaken.

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17. July 2009 @ 08:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I second mistycat's explaination as "authoritative".

Bitrate (multiplied by total clip duration) determines final DVD content size.

Efficient bitrate usage is responsible for quality.

Video frame size determines bitrate. Larger frame size needs higher bitrate.

The DVD specs support "half D1" frame sizes for non-anamorphic sizes: 352x240x29.97 (NTSC), 352x288x25 (PAL). These frame sizes require, on average, 25% of 'actual' bitrate. (Theoretically, there is no such thing as 'actual' bitrate.)

Conclusion:
To squeeze as much video duration to fit a DVD, lower bitrate as much as possible. To maximize quality for a given bitrate, ensure efficient bitrate usage via multi-pass VBR encoding. If target viewing device is 32" or lower, reducing frame size to "half D1" is helpful, reducing bitrate further to just 25%, allowing four times more content.

Counter argument:
The cost of DVDRs today is so cheap. The speed of burning has also increased to 16x or better. Is it still worth it to skimp this way?

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