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iambigh
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26. June 2009 @ 07:21 |
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My grand-daughter has just been on a trip to London with her school and has taken photos on her MGA Bratz plugged in digital video camera. I offered to put her pics on disc and plugged the camera into my PC via USB 2.0. I am using XP Pro with service update 3. The PC finds the new hardware and tells me that it needs to search on the web for drivers for it, then after searching tells me that there are no drivers available for it. The camera was not supplied with a disc so I am now searching every available drivers download site but with no success. Is anybody able to assist me in my search ?? A young lady would be very grateful if I were able to download the pics. BTW although there is the facility for an Xd card the pics were taken without one and as such are on the cameras memory. Thanks for any assistance.
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26. June 2009 @ 23:57 |
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Bad News,
Found this on Amazon.com reviews for the camera.
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I purchased this camera for my grandaughter for Christmas. This camera is not Kid Friendly and is not easy to use. The LED light is only usefull as a prop. Features are diffucult to use and despite all our efforts all the pictures are VERY DARK and unusable even in well lighted situations. Upon trying to connect this camera to our PC (High End Dell XPS with XP Pro) we discovered that the driver necessary for the camera is not included in the software. MGA refers the purchaser to Arcsoft the software supplier for support. There is no support apparent. Emails to the company produce a response indicating that the driver is not available on the net with a promise to mail it to us. There is no camera support on the software site and only ads for other products. This camera is does not funtion properly and support is poor. Picture taking capability is very bad. Don't waste your money on this product and dissapoint a child as we inadvertantly did.
Here is the product support page and I couldn't find any mention of your camera. http://www.arcsoft.com/public/download.asp
If it uses an SD card like one reference mentioned, thaen see if someone has a card reader available for you to use...
Good Luck though.
Bratz Camera site.
http://www.mgae.com/customerservice/instructions.asp?view=af
which leads you to this.
http://www.mgae.com/products/manuals/DIGITAL%20CAMERA%209-16.pdf
http://www.mgae.com/products/manuals/DIGITAL%20CAMERA%201-8.pdf
Tough search my friend. good luck.
Found a video camera driver, that is all.
http://be-bratz.com/Webcam.aspx
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iambigh
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27. June 2009 @ 04:30 |
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Many thanks for your efforts on my behalf, it looks as though it could be a long journey to get the pictures downloaded. Thanks again.
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varnull
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27. June 2009 @ 19:02 |
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I'm guessing the pics will be stuck on there unless you have an sd card.. might be an idea to get say a 32 meg one (pennies) and see if there is a "move to card" menu option built in.
That's all I can think of .. sorry .. I can't find any info.. but I remember the arcsoft toy cameras from a few years back.. they worked on linux sort of.. xp had an invalid dll message when attempting to install the driver (same name as an xp dll.. different size and contents).
Sometimes there are even cheaper clones of these cameras.. or ones using the same chipset which do have some sort of drivers available.. I will have a hunt in linux world and edit later.
[edit] why not try these generic mass storage device drivers? http://www.geocities.com/mypublic99/index.html
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27. June 2009 @ 23:00 |
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Ah, the grande Misstress has arrived, if she can't help us, no one can.
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iambigh
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28. June 2009 @ 14:34 |
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Varnull, after what bliveNC has said I feel I am in the presence of royalty..... lol.
Thank you for trying to sort out out my problem, it is much appreciated.
I have downloaded the generic mass storage devices from the links you provided and have saved them to my desktop.
Here is where it gets tricky, I am not too computer savvy so if I just unzip 1 of the files what would I need to do with it then.
Even though I want to get to the pictures as soon as I can I will wait until I get some instruction from you.
Thanks again for your help.
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varnull
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28. June 2009 @ 16:22 |
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Picked one at random and read the "readme.txt" file which comes with it... as should everybody when one is included..
Quote:
1. installation:
a. make sure you have administrator privilege.
b. after unzipping this package, copy uhci.sys to
%systemroot%\system32\drivers
c. double click on uhci.reg to add the reg file to registry.
d. copy the usbdevtree.exe to anywhere that you like.
2. usage:
a. to start the usb driver, open a dos box, and type:
net start uhci
b. to stop the usb driver, in the dos box, type:
net stop uhci
NOTE: you may have to wait 5 seconds after the driver
is started, within which period, the driver is estimating
computer's clock frequency.
c. run usbdevtree.exe.
contents of uchi.reg if anybody is interested
REGEDIT4
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\uhci]
"type"=dword:00000001
"start"=dword:00000003
"ErrorControl"=dword:00000001
"Group"="Extended base"
"ImagePath"="\\SystemRoot\\System32\\drivers\\uhci.sys"
haven't downloaded the others.. no windows.. no way to test... and I guess making a restore point or backing up any system files with the same names which may exist first would be a plan?
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iambigh
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28. June 2009 @ 17:05 |
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OUCH !!!!! My head is starting to hurt........... How do I access
%systemroot%\system32\drivers
Can I just leave usbdevtree.exe on the desktop ?
Another question: why would I want to stop the usb driver in the dos box ?
Told you I was dumb !!! LOL
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varnull
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28. June 2009 @ 17:19 |
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It's a driver.. you have to put it where it will run. so %systemroot% usually is C:\windoze\system32 (that's how malware is so effective.. because everything goes in there and can be accessed just as easily by a little script to copy a file in and then register it.. actually just like that XD) .. look for system32 and shove it in there.. then it needs to be regsitered so the dozy OS knows it exists.
I thought the readme files were clear enough .. that seems like a normal way to start and stop a driver which has no hotplug detection. Once installed start the driver.. plug in the camera and see if it pops up in the rest of your drives as a mass storage device.. if not wait a minute and stop/start the driver again with the camera connected.. still fail?.. try a different one of the group.. each time following the instructions.
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iambigh
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29. June 2009 @ 08:58 |
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Ah ha !! That makes things a little clearer. I haven't read the info yet as I didn't open anything I'd downloaded until I heard from you again. The way you explain it now makes perfect sense. Thank you so much. I shall try it now and report back later.
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iambigh
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29. June 2009 @ 09:51 |
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Well, I tried !!! I followed the instructions to the letter but all I acheived was the blue screen of death, a sudden closedown of the PC and an error report for Microsoft. Very entertaining but not too good for downloading photos....lol.
I have had a look in all of the downloads now and they are all very similar in their instructions so I haven't tried any more of them. The uhci.sys is a common theme amongst them all and this I think is where my problem arose. Still, it was worth a shot.
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varnull
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29. June 2009 @ 11:19 |
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That's as far as I can go realistically.. I don't have any way to test these drivers here.
Really that's why people like me don't use M$ stuff.. way too proprietary.. no drivers means completely that.. and no real way to do anything about it.
this is similar to how I would attack it.. and had great success in the past with all kinds of strange cameras. http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2005/01/06/digicam.html
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varnull
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29. June 2009 @ 19:31 |
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29. June 2009 @ 23:08 |
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I'm taking careful notes here you realize...
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varnull
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29. June 2009 @ 23:39 |
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*giggles* .. well I did work out how to patch a wii iso on irc one night in about 20 minutes... just by looking at the files I was given and the info I had..
Interesting things drivers.. I would have this silly camera working by now here.. even if it meant trying about 200 different generic webcam/stills combi camera drivers.. bound to be one of the "made in china" things with the same chipset out there somewhere XD
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iambigh
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30. June 2009 @ 15:36 |
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Varnull, you are a lovely lady for spending so much time on my problem and I thank you for that.
I tried both of the suggestions you made but neither of them worked for me. I even tried opening the camera to gain access to the board to try to see the chipset numbers but they are not numbered. Don't these chinese engineers have small fingers, there were 8 screws and all of them were tiny....lol, what a job !!!
I'm seriously considering joining the Bratz web site just to beg for anyone who has got the driver to share it.
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varnull
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30. June 2009 @ 19:53 |
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I have searched and searched.. when things don't work as they should it starts to bug me until I find a fix.
Have you thought about posting this same problem on some mainstream digital photography forums? I would be tempted to try http://forums.cnet.com/5204-7593_102-0.html?forumID=58
Somebody somewhere must have had the same problem and found a cure.
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30. June 2009 @ 22:36 |
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That last idea might be worthy of pursuit, I've been checking boards left and right and cannot seem to find a good solution for your driver, I thought I found one, but the link was dead, go figure.
Don't give up just yet, we may stumble on something just yet.
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varnull
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30. June 2009 @ 23:27 |
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The problem isn't with a driver for the stills part of the camera.. that's standard 8mb's of sdram built in.. should autodetect like a chinese mp3 player or any other sd card based device. I still think theres something slightly wrong with the xp hotplug implementation somewhere.
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1. July 2009 @ 20:43 |
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iambigh
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2. July 2009 @ 06:44 |
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I really thought that you had cracked it !!! It is a giant step forward. The camera is now showing in the scanners and cameras box as Icatch(IV) video camera device. It's properties read; Manufacturer : Sunplus, Driver ; 1.0.2.0, Location 0.
The camera is said to be working but it does not show in My Computer. It does show however in Device Manager under imaging devices as Icatch(IV) still camera device and Icatch(IV) video camera device.
I have tried updating the drivers, it just says I am using the best available driver. I have restarted the computer several times with the camera both attached and disconnected to no avail.
I'm sure things are a lot closer to resolution thanks to your endeavours. A friend of mine is sending me a disc of 7 different Arcsoft programs next week in the hope that the correct drivers are on one of them, however I think you are heading in the right direction.
I am going away for a week on Friday night so I won't be able to look in until I get back, with your resourcefulness when I get back I won't be surprised if you have beaten it....LOL.
Can't thank you too many times for all the help you are giving me and I promise if I ever get the pics off the camera I will send you a selection.
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varnull
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2. July 2009 @ 07:43 |
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No worries.. there are other models in the range. The fact it's now identifying seems to say (to me anyway) that we are in the right family of devices. I will have another dig around later when I return from running an errand. I sould be able to find the other drivers in my browser history.. as always I started with the lowest number in the range XD
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2. July 2009 @ 07:56 |
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I told you the best was working on your case, if she can't solve it, just give her more time.
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iambigh
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2. July 2009 @ 10:14 |
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Originally posted by blivetNC:
I told you the best was working on your case, if she can't solve it, just give her more time.
I have all the time in the world for this lady. I just wish I was 40 years younger then maybe I could get to be as clever as she is proving to be.
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varnull
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2. July 2009 @ 12:22 |
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You would be surprised how old I am.. and I'm half aussie.. which makes me no lady XD
shall we try cheating?
download and burn this iso http://www.puppylinux.org/downloads/offi...duction-release (it's a disk image.. imgburn will do a great job of it.. but burn at 24x or less) then set your pc to boot the cd instead of windows..
it will start and ask some questions.. the most important one is get your keyboard region right or it's mad XD .. for all the rest take what it suggests .. you might have to have a couple of tries with slightly different options.. or just take the generic graphics driver :lol:
now if you look at the screenshot and you started with the camera connected it may well be in the list of drives at the bottom of the screen.. open them up.. you will be able to access all your xp drives and hopefully the camera will be a small 8mb drive.. just copy the files over onto the xp drive.. take the disk out and reboot to xp
:hahahaha: I eventually got fed up with searching for a driver for a device that isn't supposed to need one. That's how I would attack it anyway XD
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