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Josipa
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28. December 2001 @ 13:31 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi there!
After three tries (about 10 hours each) i finally got my AVi file all done, but i have one problem now. The file that was generated with ripping is around 2 Giga large. I dont think it will fit 2 CDs and the movie i ripped is only 100 mins long..... i guess i did something wrong, but i dont know what...
Any help, please? :)
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A_Klingon
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29. December 2001 @ 18:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Anything much over 2 gigs, and Win-98 throws a hissy fit.

How can you expect a 2 gig file to fit on two 650 or 700 meg cds (???)

You'll have to reduce the bit-rate some, or perhaps lower the screen res a bit. A 100 min divx movie will easily fit on 2 cds and give you superb quality to boot.

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30. December 2001 @ 03:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks for the tip. I figured out what i did wrong....it wasn't the bit rate, but the audio file. Yes, i forgot to convert wav file into mp3, so the audio file only was around 1 Giga....
Corrected it, and now it's ok :).
But, that was my first movie, and of course i wanted to do the other one, and found myself into REAL trouble now. When i open copied filed, which i run through dvd2avi, and start preparing it for encoding in Virtual dub, i get a sort of a "double" picture. Dont know how to explain it correctly, everything is fine, only at the right side of the window, the scene is sort of dulicated.... I deleted dvd2avi file, and made a new one, but nothing changed.... i dont know if the problem was in copying (i copied it with SmartRipper) or what should i try now?
Please, help :))
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30. December 2001 @ 17:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hi Josipa!

You're doing just fine. You'll get the hang of it soon enough. Yeah, multiplexing-in a .wav file instead of an .mp3 will certainly hog up enough hard drive real-estate to ruin your project!

Don't worry about VirtualDub displaying two screens'-worth of your .avi; that's pretty normal. I *think* one screen is input and one is output (I can't remember; it's been such a long time since I've made any Divxs), but just ignore the screens. I too chose VirtualDub as my program of choice for compressing audio and general conversion, and later on you may find it indispensible for correcting audio/video sync problems, if they should arise. (Sooner or later they will, especially with NTSC Region 1 discs).

I'm not sure what your question is this time or else I'd try to answer.

I've made about 45 outstanding DVD-to-Divx movies with SmartRipper/FlaskMpeg/VirtualDub (and a few other ancillary programs to tweak things up), and when played back on my computer, you'd be hard-pressed to tell the Divxs from the originals! (no kidding) Always use the low-motion codec and you can generally (believe it or not) choose a bit-rate of 3000 or higher for just about any but the ongest of movies, and the end results will be awesome. I never worried about trying to fit a single movie on 1 cd-r; I always aimed for a finished divx.avi of no more than 2 gigs, then always played the films directly off my hard drive. (I just *stored* them on cdrs as file pieces which I could later reassemble at will).

The learning curve for making Divxs in the first place is the hardest aspect in general. Experiment-experiment-experiment-test-test-test. Refine. Make adjustments. Make notes. Perfect whatever works for *you*. I had Divx-making down to a fine science. :-)

And of course, you'll have to set aside about 27 hours a day to learn it all. <gg>

Right now, I'm trying to perfect my technique at making standard, white-book-compliant VCDs (VideoCDs), because I would far rather play them back on my stand-alone dvd player with my remote-control in hand, rather than hunched over the computer monitor with mouse in-hand. Most Divxs beat the pants off VCDs though, for video quality. Still, I'm having success.

If you run into any problems, I'll try to help.

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31. December 2001 @ 00:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Don't want to advertise or anything ;-) Just thought that you (both) might find some good guides for DivX and VCD creation from our articles section. And if you have any suggestions/corrections for the guides, please feel free to post them to us, because we too aim to provide guides that allow users to create "excellent" quality results.

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Josipa
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31. December 2001 @ 01:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
First of all, thanks for a really long, and open-hearted (enthusiastic :)) answer.
I must say that i'm kind of realizing what 27 hours a day mean, cause my eyes hurt and i dont feel like sitting in front of my lap-top any more, but i somehow cant give it up until i do it all properly :).
In the mean-time, i've downloaded some additional guides, and programs and stuff, and solved numerous little problems,only to found myself into more and more new ones :).
(By the way, i made the movie with SubRip, regardless the double frame at the right side of the screen. But, after 15 hours :) when everything was done, i opened the movie in Media Player, and it was stil double :((. So, i deleted everything and made a new try with Flask which didnt have such problems.)
The present situation is: i have my second ripped movie now (divx), and i would be a bit proud of myself,if it wasn't for them subtitles :).
Yes, i read all the other postings, and there are some about subtitles, so i downloaded VobSub (as someone has suggested) and did all i had to, and made a file....but, i didnt quite understand the part about making Windows Media Player to run subtitles.....and, furthermore i have some problems with Media Player running my movies at all. The funny thing is, older version of the Media Player runs my movie, but when i start a new version i cant see anything: the sound is there, time of the movie is correct, seconds are passing, only i dont see anything.....
I also have ASusDVD installed, and it runs my movie without any troubles....
Anyway, the primary question for the time being is subtitles, so if you know how to help, i would be grateful.
Thanks.
So, my next question is: how to do that?
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31. December 2001 @ 01:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If you're using VobSub, you just install DirectVobSub filters found inside the package and you can watch the movies with VobSub subtitles using older Windows Media Player. And yes, you're right, new versions of WiMP have problems with DivX, but the new player is such a bloatware that most of the users prefer using WiMP 6.4 anyway instead of 7.x or 8.x.

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31. December 2001 @ 08:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hmmmm.....

I'm afraid I'll have to bow out when it comes to subtitling, Josipa - that's one area I never explored because I never had any desire to use them. I can only speak and read English, and, living in Canada, I can only buy or rent Region 1 discs. What area (disc-region-wise) of the world do you live in? I agree, that for some areas, subtitles are critically important.

But honestly, even if you need them, I'd concentrate on the basic Divx first. Once you've made an awesome Divx that's so close to the original it's not-even-funny, then you can focus your full attention on subtitles.

(Just make a short Divx - get it as good as possible).

For every problem you solve, it seems that two more pop up. All dvds are *not* created equal, and some of them absolutely *defy* being properly divxed. (Discs that are stored as BOTH progressive and interlaced images come to mind - the motion can be hopelessly jerky, a/v sync can be horrid.....)

Yes, dRD, I will indeed go through your kindly-offered VCD guide. (thank you). I just managed to complete an excellent 3-vcd-disc set of that old 1965 classic "The Sound Of Music". (175 minutes, Julie Andrews/Christopher Plummer).

This is actualy my first really successful attempt at creating a standard vcd. Although I've never seen a commercially-made retail VCD (there's absolutely none to be found in Nova Scotia, Canada), I bet my copy would stand-up very nicely in a direct comparison though. (Would you like a free copy?) I'm always interested in what others think. I have nothing to compare them against.

The discs play fine through my Sanyo standalone dvd player. A/V sync is bang-on the money. I always process the audio separately from the video, because FlaskMpeg, good as it is, always produces annoyingly weak audio. (I can fix that perfectly though).

The only problem I'm really having right now is trying to get TMPEnc's merge&cut facility to NOT freeze up on me when I want to split a movie.

There's not really enough hours in a day to do all I would like, but just like Josipa above, I will pursue vcd making until I can do it blindfolded. I *refuse* to pay the insane retail price demanded for commrcial dvds! (I'm scrunching-up a dvd right now as I type this! A dangerous thing to do; one should not be websurfing whilst Flasking) :-)

Much obliged for this Forum!

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Josipa
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31. December 2001 @ 10:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
First of all, i must say that i've finally managed the subtitles. After couple of hours of hard thinking :) i somehow realized that maybe reading programs' info files could help, and it did :).
The problem was: i had to take 3 files with extensions idx, ifo and sub, rename them so that they are called the same as the avi file, and put them all together in the same folder.
Maybe it would be usefull to put this in some guide, just in case there are more people who dont like reading help and info files :).
Now something for KlingonAgent. I agree with you that staying with the basics would be a clever move for the time being, but this movie - my number two - is in French, which i (despite my love towards foreign languages) cant understand...:). I could have picked English audio, but i didnt want to, cause it would look a bit funny - like those synchronized Chinese movies. By the way, the movie is The Crimson Rivers, with Jean Reno, and pretty good (for non-American movie) :). And i know the movie you were talking about, The Sound of Music, it's one of my favourites, especially the songs and children and everything...
Sorry i cant give any suggestions for solving your problems.... :( I started with DIVx not only because of the quality, but because i dont have any stand-alone dvd player, so there was no real trouble deciding which format to use.
And since I live in Zagreb, Croatia, (Europe) i rent Region 2 discs.
And now, before hurrying to a New Years Eve party, have to admit this:
My second movie is all done - picture is great (i used bit rate of 1650), sound is perfect (i'm not that demanding as you can see), and - I have great English subtitles!!!!
So, i figure, the best thing to do now is to leave everything as it is, and burn it to CDs tommorrow, so i can start a new year without any unsolved problems, cause (without any doubt) New year will bring it's own dilemas. :)
So, happy new year!!! :)
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