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DVD Rebuilder an excellent program, and the quality is exceptional. Once you have viewed a movie done with this program, transcoders do not hack it. You can use Shrink with deep analysis and AEC and still not get the same product. Of course that is my two cents.
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Supplying ?Freebies for the Newbies? is an admirable pursuit. No one is trying to make you "eat crow". Most of us go wrong at one time or another, at least I do. Sophocles sometimes claims he puts his pants on differently. LOL Anyway, admitting one is wrong shows the intent is good and that you want to further an environment conducive to learning.
I learned a long time ago to research as many variables of a problem as possible, then discuss any theories with others to see if someone could find fault, and even if I find agreement, I am very leery of saying a solution is universal.
Keep up the good work trying to help the newbies, just try to avoid the pitfalls they sometimes run into, such as well intentioned misinformation. With your assistance we analyzed the proposed solutions and came to an agreement on function and in the process probably gave any newbies that have wondered by an insight into the workings of copyright protection. I smell some hot betas over at DVDHounds.com that need a looking at. Take care and good luck with your endeavors.
As Sophocles and Arniebear mentioned, you can't beat a good encoder and RB allows you to use some of the best. It's great that a person can set up and use it for free. However, the Pro version does have nice bells and whisltles and it doesn't take much to get it.
Sophocles,
Does the free RB do the ISO conversion or is that only available in Pro? The differnces and upgrades of the freeware keep me wondering what is where.
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I must admit I have enjoyed this thread. And I learned some things along the way. And every one ended up playing nice together.
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We often start playing well together when we start analyzing facts instead of trying to further personal opinions. Being open and working together to find and evaluate solutions is what the forum is about. When 2oldgeek went out of his way to find material that opposed his original theory, that showed he actually wanted to work to clear up a misunderstanding so that newbies wouldn't be lead astray.
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As Sophocles and Arniebear mentioned, you can't be a good encoder
I don't think that I mentioned that one but it's true you can't be a good encoder.
I don't know if the free versions does ISO although it really doesn't matter because if he gets far enough to encode all that's left is burning anyway.
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LOL Okay Sophocles, I fell prey to one of your quick typing errors and not proofing. Instead of be, that should read beat. I edited it. So, you can't (beat) a good encoder and RB allows use of some of the best. Now does that read better? I'd better get to DVDHounds and check those Rebuilder betas before they get out of beta testing.
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Thanks for the offer and sometime in the future, if I find I have the need, I will certainly call on you..
As of the present time, I usually only backup the Movie Only using AnyDVD/Shrink/Nero. I use Shrink because I have used it for so long and feel real comfortable with the control that I have with it. I just don?t feel comfortable with Recode.
I do my best to maintain 100% and never backup anything that falls below 80% to a DVD-5.
When it falls between 80 and 90% I use the Deep Analysis and AEC set at default sharp. For 90 to 99.9% I use Max Sharp. For anything below 80% I backup to a DL. That is why I prefer the ISO mode and Decrypter or ImgBurn. If I am unable to rip the newest protections in the ISO Mode then that puts a crimp in my style LOL.
I have learned a lot from this thread, but I will remain middle of the road. That is, I do not wish to just copy a disc the fastest, 1 click way or spend hours encoding to the best quality that can be achieved from a shrunken disc. All I want is to make backups, for my own viewing, that I can live with, and that is 100% if possible. No Menus, No Extras, No Etcs.
Thanks again guys, I?ve enjoyed the lessons?..
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The nice thing about Rebuilder is that you can set up multiple encoding jobs and let your PC do the work (Batch Mode) while you sleep or are out on the town, or just doing the home chores or watching TV. If you can afford to use DL a lot, I want to be your friend. (Always wanted somebody around rich enough to throw money to the wind.) RB doesn't take much longer than Shrink with the quality settings in use. Batch encoding requires enough free hard drive space of course. You can wake up to the completed movies. Depending on the system a 2 pass encode normally runs 2 to 3 hours. The guys with dual core and OCed systems can go faster. Since it doesn't take much longer than Shrink, and I can put a complete high quality backup on the inexpensive DVD5, I prefer using RB. That gets into personal preference and there it is each to his own and as you pointed out, you have your reasons. Since there's an unlimited free setup, I suggest at least setting up and giving it a try. Once set up, it's easier to use than Shrink. I can understand familiarity with an app, but a little adventure will broaden your horizons. If you try it you can then state reasons for not liking it or wanting to use it. Many people who try RB tend to think it is worth the little extra bit of time.
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@2oldGeek,
Nero Recode is not that bad. All you have to do is make sure that both Advanced anlysis and Slow recording are checked. It produces what appears to be identical quality when compared to DVD Shrink.
I also went as far as 56% compression with Nero Recode and there was virtually no difference between the original and the compressed. I viewed both on a 60" SXRD. With CloneDVD2, I keep on getting the same results...crap. Even with compression at about 75%, the results are worse than DVD Shrink and Recode at around 55%. So, between Shrink and Recode, I am not sure which is better, but I like both over CloneDVD2.
As for the problems everyone is having with the FOG, I do not understand...There is no new encryption on this movie. Is this a new variant of ARccOS or something?? Either way, ARccOS is applied after the movie is authored. This means that the main movie is untouched. Also, messing around with the structure of the actual movie will give unacceptable playback. This is why IFO Mode will work and File and ISO will not.
The corruption always appears before the main movie. The only thing they can add is corruption after the movie, but never in between chapters.
The reason I said before that there is no new encryption, is because a new encryption would require a hardware update. When you are talking about Algorithms, do you mean the what DVD Decrypter uses to find the ARccOS??? If so, then you are all correct about the program needing an update for that, but since a PSL is a temporary update, a permanent update is not necessary. Also, ever since version 3.1.0.0 (from May of 2002), DVD Decrypter can rip any movie with no errors, ARccOS, Ripguard, whatever.
Here was the log from ripping Stealth, which causes read errors in both File and ISO Mode:
I 12:42:12 DVD Decrypter Version 3.1.0.0 started!
I 12:42:12 Microsoft Windows 2000 Professional Service Pack 4 (Build 2195)
I 12:42:12 Initialising ASPI manager...
I 12:42:12 WNASPI32.DLL - Adaptec's ASPI Layer - Version 4.71.2.0
I 12:42:12 Searching for ASPI compatible host adapters...
I 12:42:12 Found 3 ASPI compatible host adapters!
I 12:42:12 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 12:42:13 Found 2x DVD-ROM and 1x DVD-R!
I 12:43:17 Operation Started!
I 12:43:17 Source Device: [1:0:0] _NEC DV-5700A 1.91 (G:)
I 12:43:17 Destination Folder: E:\DVD_VIDEO\VIDEO_TS\
I 12:43:17 File Splitting: 1 GB
I 12:43:17 Fast Error Skip: No
I 12:43:17 Detect Mastering Errors: No
I 12:43:17 Stream Processing: No
I 12:43:17 Remove Macrovision Protection: Yes
I 12:43:20 Extracting Sectors...
I 13:16:38 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:33:21
I 13:16:38 Average Read Rate: 2,616 KB/s (1.9x) - Maximum Read Rate: 3,328 KB/s (2.4x)
If you notice, there is no mention of Dummy Sectors or suspected Sectors. This is because this version of Decrypter was released well before ARccOS support. Since the bad cells are skipped, there are no read errors. If I were to not skip the bad sectors, there would be read errors and DVDD would lag and rip speed would drop down to 0 and it will only pass 1 bad sector every 15 seconds or so (there are sometimes thousands on a DVD that is why it can take many hours to rip if the corrupt cells are not skipped).
The slow rip speed was because I was multitasking at the time and I ripped using a Drive that reads at 4.8x max. Also, version 3.1.0.0 of Decrypter rips slower than 3.5.4.0. For the Full guide, look at this link:
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/260734
Also, like I said, this method was tested as far as The Cave, and it is safe to assume that it will also work for The Fog.
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For those not wanting to read the entire post, the meat is at the end in bold. As to the why, read on.
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There is a line conspicuously missing from the log you supplied. Editing out the segment with the encryption could account for such, but not DVD Decrypter being used to automatically rip a DVD in full without pre-editing. The log below is from a pre Arccoss, Puppetlock movie (Tomorrow Never Dies-007), just to show that DVD Decrypter in IFO mode does read and remove the encryption, note the line with the Decryption Key (I 02:41:53 Decryption Key: C0 ED 43 3A 43). Being as how your log had no such key noted, it must have been an unencrypted source or the encryption edited out (I noticed you pre-edit to remove encryption). As mentioned, there is no magic mode in DVD Decrypter. Even with IFO encryption is read and removed as with the other modes. IFO simply does not present a more comprehensive log as the other two modes. Like 2oldgeek, get an actual copy of "The Fog" with Arccoss, Puppetlock and then tell us you did it in IFO without editing. Unchecking the chapter and cell boxes in IFO mode is editing. That is the only thing that would cause the "Decryption Key" not to be present, that or no protection on the DVD to begin with. When you do get "The Fog" or use any other log as an example, we'd like to see a log before editing. You also noted that without unchecking (editing) bad sectors, that could take a very long time, if then.
Log for "Tomorrow Never Dies"; no editing; running with default settings; encryption from before loss of support, algorithm up to date:
I 02:41:34 DVD Decrypter Version 3.5.4.0 started!
I 02:41:34 Microsoft Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 2)
I 02:41:34 Initialising SPTI...
I 02:41:34 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 02:41:34 Found 1 DVD-ROM and 2 DVD±RWs!
W 02:41:36 Possible RCE Protection Found!
W 02:41:36 Media region code: 1
W 02:41:39 User selected Region 1 for the disc's region code.
I 02:41:51 Operation Started!
I 02:41:51 Source Device: [1:0:0] PLEXTOR DVDR PX-716AL 1.02 (G:) (ATA)
I 02:41:51 Source Media Type: DVD-ROM
I 02:41:51 Source Media Region Code: 1
I 02:41:51 Source Media Copyright Protection System Type: CSS/CPPM
I 02:41:51 Source Media Implementation Identifier: MEI
I 02:41:51 Destination Folder: F:\TNDSE\VIDEO_TS\
I 02:41:51 File Splitting: 1 GB
I 02:41:51 Detect Mastering Errors: No
I 02:41:51 Remove Macrovision Protection: Yes
I 02:41:51 Stream Processing: No
I 02:41:53 Decryption Key: C0 ED 43 3A 43
I 02:41:53 Extracting Sectors...
I 02:51:38 Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:09:45
I 02:51:38 Average Read Rate: 8,595 KB/s (6.2x) - Maximum Read Rate: 15,114 KB/s (10.9x)
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If you notice, there is no mention of Dummy Sectors or suspected Sectors. This is because this version of Decrypter was released well before ARccOS support.
If you notice what you're presenting, an IFO log presents none of the DVD file structure as in ISO and File modes. There is no log of how the program is processing the files. You get versions, hardware, paths, settings and the Decryption Key along with the final statement. You only see something similar to this:
Decryption Key: C0 ED 43 3A 43
Extracting Sectors...
Operation Successfully Completed! - Duration: 00:09:45
Average Read Rate: 8,595 KB/s (6.2x) - Maximum Read Rate: 15,114 KB/s (10.9x)
It sure would be nice to see which sectors had been extracted and which weren't, but an IFO log doesn't disclose much; except a Decryption Key is present when encryption is.
Now I would like to point out exactly where the misunderstanding lies in JaguarGod's reasoning. I'll start by quoting his words:
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If I were to not skip the bad sectors, there would be read errors and DVDD would lag and rip speed would drop down to 0 and it will only pass 1 bad sector every 15 seconds or so (there are sometimes thousands on a DVD that is why it can take many hours to rip if the corrupt cells are not skipped).
Bad sectors were skipped meaning cells were unchecked which is editing the original source to remove the encryption. DVD Decrypter in IFO mode will read and remove encryption if the algorithm is correct. Without the correct form of the algorithm, editing of the sort done by JaguarGod is necessary. As I mentioned, Decrypter can still be a useful tool, but unless the user is skilled in editing out the bad sectors, IFO is no more useful than any of the other modes in Decrypter when it is faced with a newer form (permutation) of encryption.
I notice some statements that are interesting, such as Sony's Arccoss was useless and doesn't work. Well I noticed it forces you to locate and edit out the bad sectors to get through the processing of files. How many people are knowledgable enough to edit out encryption and how many are aware and up to date on the various software that is involved in decryption and the backup process of factory DVDs, with newer encryption or the old?
Here's a conspicuous passage from your Newbie guide.
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For this movie the protected cell is cell 12. However, this will not matter because we will skip all but the last cell of chapter 1.
You're talking about editing. If you know the location of the troublesome encryption, there are several apps that will edit for you. What you are doing is editing and allowing Decrypter to process an unencrypted set of files. Did we mention DVD Decrypter burns as well? The program edits, decrypts, and burns. In this instance you're using it to edit, not decrypt. Though the method may produce a good clean source to work with, you are the decrypter, not a program you used to edit. The name of the program can be misleading. You aren't decrypting your files when you use DVD Decrypter to burn and neither are you when you use it to edit unless you the user remove the right sectors to get rid of the encryption.
Now this statement about not understanding starts to make sense;
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As for the problems everyone is having with the FOG, I do not understand...There is no new encryption on this movie. Is this a new variant of ARccOS or something?? Either way, ARccOS is applied after the movie is authored. This means that the main movie is untouched. Also, messing around with the structure of the actual movie will give unacceptable playback. This is why IFO Mode will work and File and ISO will not. The corruption always appears before the main movie. The only thing they can add is corruption after the movie, but never in between chapters.
You may understand if you realize not everyone has your editing skills for removing encryption. The problems arise from using the wrong software and/or method for decryption. Many rely on the software for decryption. The more advanced can benefit from editing. In the case of "The Fog", a person can use DVDFab Decrypter without the need of editing and AnyDVD + DVD Decrypter with DVD Shrink. I've heard AnyDVD + Shrink, there are different combinations that can work. That makes the use of DVD Decrypter more work for editing and takes knowledgable input from the user. A newbie could only do it with good instructions. Nothing hard to understand.
There is an algorithm permutation newer than the last update of DVD Decrypter. I posted the info window from AnyDVD showing the encryption used on "The Fog". Here, you talk about manually editing the source to remove the encryption. That means knowing how and taking the time to locate the problem. I'm sure you're faster at that than most since you have experience at it. Glad I clarified what I meant earlier. We're seeing various permutations of the algorithm in an effort to make ineffective software decryption.
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As for the problems everyone is having with the FOG, I do not understand...
No more than your understanding of the process you're using. If you manually edit out encryption, it doesn't matter what program you use as long as you end up with a playable file. You've manually cleaned the source. As long as you correctly edit, it doesn't matter what they insert, old or newer variations of encryption. Looking at it in that light, it should make perfect sense.
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Also, ever since version 3.1.0.0 (from May of 2002), DVD Decrypter can rip any movie with no errors, ARccOS, Ripguard, whatever.
It would work with any version that is capable of editing as long as the user manually goes in and selects the right cells to remove.
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This is why IFO Mode will work and File and ISO will not.
ISO and File work for their intended purposes. I can pre edit with another editing software or use another piece of decryption software and successfully use DVD Decrypter to rip in either ISO or File mode and be just as successful as you editing with Decrypter in the IFO mode and then using Decrypter to rip the cleaned source. In fact with AnyDVD to do the encrytion editing for me, all I have to do is set back and watch it go. You're just doing what Decrypter can no longer do and AnyDVD does automatically.
Newbie guide to ARccOS Protection with DVD Decrypter In the guide you call it a "ripping guide", it would have been more to the point had you called it an editing guide. In effect, you are editing in order to be able to rip.
A better understanding of the structure and what you're actually doing would clarify things for you and the Newbies you seem to want to help. There is no magic mode in Decrypter, and as mentioned it takes either editing, PSL2 files, or the assistance of up to date software for decryption, such as AnyDVd. You chose editing, which the IFO format is tailormade for. NO magic, you have to use the editing features if the algorithm doesn't cover the current version of encryption. In the IFO rip I did, I seem to have lost the extras and navigation. The movie plays well and the DVD Decrypter algorithm was up to date for TND. You've already shown that for Decrypter to work properly with newer versions of encryption, editing is necessary. For that we thank you. Now it's apparent where the misunderstanding came in.
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Advanced Analysis in Recode will do the same as Shrinks Deep Analysis but if you want to get the same AEC settings that are in Shrink you can go into the regedit and change the settings, producing the same if not a shade better than Shrink. The default for Recode is Sharp the same as Shrink. Also, you must have used Recode at least once before you can change the settings.
How to change the setting:
You can switch in Nero Recode 2 to 'maximum sharpness' by changing a special value inside the Windows Registry:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Ahead\Nero Recode\Preferences]
"CompressMode"=dword:00000002 (this is 'sharp (default)')
The settings for the various AEC options:
Sharp - default:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Ahead\Nero Recode\Preferences]
"CompressMode"=dword:00000002
Maximum sharpness:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Ahead\Nero Recode\Preferences]
"CompressMode"=dword:00000003
Smooth:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Ahead\Nero Recode\Preferences]
"CompressMode"=dword:00000001
Maximum smoothness:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Ahead\Nero Recode\Preferences]
"CompressMode"=dword:00000000
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@jaguar god thnx for trying I would think this method not for those w/out a thorough knowledge fo dvd structure though!
@ bro bear you should not have to edit out any content ifo mode works more w/ chains than files so if your editing actual content you are taking more that is needed (or anydvd may be taking it)the editing is only done to the bad cells
sure your editing just the unrefferenced cells that point your drive in the wrong direction!
I did the fog in a similar way to jaguar gods method I lost no video or audio content! and had a successful back-up w/ no other decryption software! of course you will need the help of another software to get the ifo's back in order to make it dvdcompliant! pgcedit or fixvts should do the trick and if your into shrink this should do it as well! so the use of such methods should be handy if you don't wish to wait for an update one day, as this way is not the most user friendly!
psl2 wizard does essentially the same thing studies the dvd structure and makes it compliant(just easier)!
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I'm aware of how the IFO mode works. I'm also aware that the encryption is still there on the factory DVD and that some method has to remove it. Note the example of an older movie, but still the encryption was present, the Decryption key indicated that. The IFO mode removed the encryption with no need of editing because the decryption algorithm was up to date. I have no idea why it is so difficult for you and others to see that when you edit out those cells, you're editing out encryption with it. If you don't get the right cells, the process doesn't work. I'd like to see the IFO log from the rip you did. I suspect there will be no Decryption Key, indicating you removed the encryption in your editing. I also noticed that I got movie only with no navigation or extras. As JaguarGod pointed out, that's where they put encryption, not inside the movie content.
It's as simple as this: DVD Decrypter is decrypting a file if you open the DVD, select or use the given path, and click the DVD icon to proceed. When a person goes into IFO and starts editing cells, DVD Decrypter is not decrypting, the user is. As far as those bad cells, those are for copy protection aren't they? Those bad cells are there for copy prevention, not viewing pleasure.
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IFO is as encrypted as the rest of the DVD but where it has an advantage is that it's difficult to create physical protections in IFO mode because it contains the entire content of the main movie. I began my DVD backups using IFO method because I'd been using it for years to compress to mpeg4 and SVCD before there were DVD burners. In fact more than half of my more than 800+ movies were done using the IFO method. I only stopped ripping in IFO mode when DVD's were being released in both DTS and DD and to be able to select either soundtracks individually one needs a menu and thanks to jdobbs I can have that too.
DVD Shrink and Nero recode have exactly the same transcoding engine because they were authored by the same person, but I like Nero recodes layout and editing features better. I only use a transcoder when the movie is so small that it only needs to be compressed by about 5% and I'm pressed for time. Other than that I have no time for transcoders the result are just too dirty for my tastes.
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I appologise I must have been in a hurry earlier brobear the point I was trying to make was that there is no reason t o remove the extra's by default ifo mode select's the largest pgc you edit out the bad cell's (unrefferenced) which is what you called encryption!
then go to good ole file mode and rip the remainder of the movie into the same file when given the option to replace the files that exist simply click "no to all" you now have the rest of the movie unless you find "encryption" elsewhere you will then have to return to ifo mode and replace that file w/ a cleaned one!
or you can use the psl2 file method to do the same thing!
main pgc w/ ifo...
and the rest of the movie....
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A PGC is not an actual file it stands for Program Chain and what it does is connect files or cells together and determines the order in which they're played. That's why when one is editing with an application such as DVDremake that one must take care to keep the PGC intact. Take out one wrong file without restoring the chain and the DVD becomes non compliant, non playable. At this point RB begins to foam at the mouth and muttering for brains. Hmm! Sweetbreads. LOL
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Decrypting the original DVD is really worrying me. I am trying to figure out whether the DVD Decrypter is removing the copy-protection from the original copy or just from the copied one?
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DVD Decrypter has no effect on the original DVD it only removes keys while the files are being tranfered to your hard disk. Nothing to worry about.
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My friend is decrypting DVDs not of his own but of the Videostore. Will they be able to figure out that the DVD has been decrypted or tampered with in any ways??
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No there's no way for them to find out but posting such information online could be unwise and not recommended.
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I agree Sophocles, the Video Police have traced the ISP number and will be by to question him about the freind shortly. He may have to share in his 5 year prison term and $250,000 fine. He was made an accomplice. ;)
Then the video store won't know unless someone tells them.
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lol...
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A PGC is not an actual file it stands for Program Chain
now we're getting somewhere... quick quiz what part of the chain gives the direction as to what "files" or segment's to access next??
any one?
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lol... the movie store is my friends house, i just call it the video store cause he has a million movies...lol
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L8ter
Thanks for explaining what you meant. Sophocles adroitly pointed out the nuances of IFO function. I hate to keep pointing out that he knows it better than I do. There is encryption as pointed out and that is a lot of editing to do what another software app will do easily for free, DVDFab Decrypter. The retail AnyDVD still rules the roost though because is has worked for a long time and has a track record of keeping the decryption software updated as needed. Island Thunder has managed to surprise us at times by having the decryption in place as the new DVDs come to outlets.
If a novice wants to learn how to edit and doesn't mind spending the time, that's his preference; as it is yours and anyone else who wants to do the work. I don't see how all the extra work makes IFO the "magic" mode of DVD Decrypter. And to get the entire movie, you pointed out it is handy to use File mode to copy the rest of the files into the folder.
At this point I could make some corny remarks, but I'll just let it suffice to say once again, there are no "magic" modes in DVD Decrypter. We have our preferences and ways of doing things, but before helping newbies, try to explain the options from the easy one step software (both free and retail) to the more difficult editing methods. With editing, the "magic" is in the user interface and with one step software, the "magic" is in the up to date decryption program. Let the user or the software fail and the "magic" disappears. Now you have me saying it... "It's Magic" when you get a good backup. ;)
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