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DVD Decrypter - --I/O Error - Cannot write medium - incompatible format
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semolina
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18. April 2004 @ 19:44 |
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Let me begin by saying that I am amazed at how many I/O errors are posted, now I don't feel like such a novice--at least not yet.
I have tried to burn the original DVDs, LEGIONNAIRE and A MAN APART, (separately of course) via DVDShrink to Classic Img Tool to DVD Decrypter & via Decrypter to Shrink to Classic Img Tool to Decrypter (as found at http://www.dvdr-digest.com/articles/23_1.html). Also tried Shrink to Decrypter as found here. All result in the following message when trying to burn in Decrypter:
I/O Error!
Device: [1:1:0]_NEC DVD_RW ND-1300A 1.07 (E:)
ScsiStatus: 0x02
Interpretation: Check Condition
CDB: 2A 00 00 00 11 20 00 00 10 00
Interpretation: Write (10) - Sectores: 4384 - 4399
Sense Area: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 30 05 00 00 00 00
Interpretation: Cannot Write Medium - Incorrect Format
I have tried Memorex DVD-R and DVD-RW discs and TDK DVD-R discs. I have a recently purchased E-machine (which doesn't specify a brand of DVD Drive, but is able to use DVD+/- R/RW). OS is Windows XP (home). I have Roxio Easy CD & DVD Creator 6, but have used Task Manager to make sure everything but Decrypter is running.
How do I fix my prob?
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20. April 2004 @ 19:39 |
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You might try calling E-Machine's tech support and find out what make/model your burner is then see if there's an updated firmware available.
Sometimes media incompatibilty errors can be caused by old firmwares that don't recognize a certain media.
Hope this helps :)
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semolina
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23. April 2004 @ 13:04 |
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I finally got to talk to Emachines (they don?t have a toll-free number & my cell has been down for days). Guy I talked to said my error is probably me not configuring the whole burning process correctly. Could this be the case?? I?ve followed the directions to the T.
I found that I have an NEC model ND-1300A burner that should burn/read CD & DVD +/- R/RW. The Emachines tech guy stated that if I could burn CDs then there is nothing wrong with my burner. I don?t know what to do. I?m trying to back up my own disks so I can send them to Iraq. I am tempted to quit being a cheapskate and just go out and get DVD X Copy Express, but don?t want to have the same problem after having spent $50.
Does anyone know of other FREE DVD burner software besides DVD Decrypter?
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23. April 2004 @ 13:38 |
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I think it's a rule that companies have to hire idiots who could care less and don't really know anything about computers.
Quote: I am tempted to quit being a cheapskate and just go out and get DVD X Copy Express, but don?t want to have the same problem after having spent $50.
All I can say is that you'll probably regret it. It doesn't come with a ripper anymore so you still need to use Decrypter coupled with the fact that it doesn't do anything as good as Shrink does. The only advantage is an "easier" interface.
*lol! I just noticed your burner is listed in the log you first posted! I'm such a nerd sometimes!*
Anyway, here's link to the latest firmware for your NEC:
http://forum.rpc1.org/dl_firmware.php?download_id=1517
Newer firmwares typically help media recognition among other things and this would be a good thing to try. If your drive isn't recognizing the media then different burning software probably isn't going to help.
If you have any questions about flashing the firmware please pop back in for help! It's a very good thing to do but needs to be done right or you can hose your drive.
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semolina
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23. April 2004 @ 15:56 |
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OKay, you've got me scared. Got no idea how to "flash" and don't know if i want to know how. Should Emachines Tech Support know how to do this? (Maybe I can get someone more knowledgeable when I call next time). Or, is this firmware thing kinda on the down low like copying DVDs? I sure don't want to ruin my drive and void my warranty. Darn computer's only a couple months old.
When I talked to the tech guy initially, he referred me to the NEC web page for firmware and, of course, the NEC page referred me back to the company which sold me the drive--Emachines. One big runaround. Can't say that I am happy with Emachines.
I am gonna try a different movie and do the whole process again. Maybe I only think I'm doing everything verbatim. Can you burn the new DVD in any other format besides .iso?
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23. April 2004 @ 18:02 |
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Hi semolina,
You'll have to consider doing a firmware upgrade, your drive needs it - see my sig.
Here's the site - you need ND 1300A firmwareupgrade 1.0A -
http://www.necd.de/softwareoverview2.php/id/215
and next, and it's a major thing - your media -
1. * Cheap media freezes, skips, stutters, pixelats, partially jams, may be rejected and lest we forget, our old standby, giving you the old just refuses to be recognized routine :-(
Besides "Freezing", "skips" and pixelations, many times you?ll get a ?cyclic redundancy error? or an "I/O error". This message can mean that your discs are scratched or dirty, it can also mean that your burner won?t accept your ?cheap? media :-(
Inexpensive media is great for text, Data, Spreadsheets, .Jpg and .Gif pictures and is good even for MP3 music BUT for DVD backups - BLAaaaaaT! It SUCKTH in an extremely Big-th way !
2. A good grade media is needed for DVD reproduction !
Ritek G04's or Branded Verbatim are what we?re looking for OR any media boasting ?Advanced AZO Metal Dye?, this indicates a superior dye application, while they are sometimes a bit ?pricey? they are acceptable.
Prices online from Meritline.com have gotten Ritek G04 down below a dollar a disc -
Question - If you make coasters out of 3 cheap discs and good copies from 3 Verbatim discs or 3 Ritek G04 discs - which ones then will you say are too expensive ?
Bear in mind, Memorex, Fuji, Sony, TDK, Orange Pack and others are quite good for your MP3 music, picture archives, Spread sheets, Data and your text backups and archives, they just don?t work well for DVD backups.
Remember, for DVD backups, purchasing inexpensive media is a gamble, some people win, the majority of people lose, varying amounts but, they still lose :-(
Using good grade media can guarantee you one thing to an absolute certainty, it surely cannot hurt.
Let's try the right media for the job -
cheers,
Pete
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semolina
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23. April 2004 @ 21:52 |
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Well, I have just purchased some Ritek DVD-R disks thanks to Scuba Pete--who knows maybe this'll be the cure-all. As for the firmware upgrade, I don't know how you determine which "version?" I need (1.07, 1.0A, etc.). Is it based on my Device (as seen in my error message above)? Also, I neglected to mention that, when I have it running, Roxio Creator Drag-to-Disc does acknowledge there being a blank disc in my drive--so would I still need this firmware upgrade? I certainly don't want to "hose" my drive as Nephilim put it, so I am gonna try the easiest solution first, which is to use a better DVD-R. I'll post again if that doesn't work, but I would appreciate the answers to the questions I pose here. Thanks for all your help.
Here's to hoping that you guys don't have to hear from me again.
;P
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24. April 2004 @ 11:39 |
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hi there
from what i know and read ! ROXIO is the devil in disguise! remove it and get the download tool to get rid of its registry as it leaves all kinds of poo in your system!
also check my sig for guides!
i use dvd shrink(prefered - easy one!) or decrytor and Nero engine to aid DVD Shrink to burn!
thx...
Nothing here to see, move along folks.
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semolina
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7. May 2004 @ 19:01 |
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Okay, I want to find out about how to update my NEC ND-1300A drive with firmware. How safe is this actually? I CAN write to Memorex-RW discs, now (with X Copy--yes, I broke down and got it). I want to do the firmware so I can use some of the other discs that are supposed to work with my drive (according to NEC) such as TDK, Ritek, and Imation. I just don't want to possibly ruin my drive (and warranty) if there is a big chance that this could happen. I've already gone to the forum.rpc1.org site which wasn't much help. So please someone explain the risks to me and walk me through doing this. Thanks.
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8. May 2004 @ 16:17 |
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Hi semolina,
I just went back and read this Ooohh so short thread and the following things ?Popped up? -
You have been given information about DVD Xcopy and you went out and purchased it. (You did it yourself.) You have been given information about Roxio and you still have it. (Again, you were able to make up your own mind.) We gave you information about media and you decided what media you wish to burn - BTW, the media you have named should burn perfectly on your drive, you?ll probably have trouble when doing DVD backups, but you already know that.
We have suggested a firmware upgrade. You have been given 2 links to firmware upgrade sites and told once, but I?ll tell you again, because you continue to ask, you can hose your drive, screw it up, if you try to flash it with the wrong upgrade or don?t follow directions. If you wish to make up your mind to use a firmware for another drive on your drive, you will have ruined your drive and voided your warrantee. When you flash your drive, since you are not a licensed tech, you will have voided your warrantee anyway. - Just like the times mentioned above, it?s up to you to do it or not.
Cheers,
Pete
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9. May 2004 @ 04:45 |
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semolina,
When I purchased my Nec 1300 from my local computer shop I called them about the flashing of the firmware. What they told me was if I flashed w/ NEC firmware and toasted the drive they would replace it free of charge. If I flashed it w/ hacked firmware and make it toast I replace it. Went to the NECD( overseas site- ScubaPete's suggeston)and flashed it. It was not hard to do and the sites instruction is very simple. I used Windows version to flash w/. Now call E-Machines and find someone there that has some intelligence and ask him about the flashing. You have been given the best advice possible and that burner is pretty good. You might be having problems because of how E-machines initially set up the computer. Wait until you find out what you have to do to get Xpress to work
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9. May 2004 @ 18:01 |
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Thanks Mike, I almost forgot (actually I did forget), semolina, again I shall put forth some information, use it or not -
You'll probably have some trouble with DVD XCopy and this may be of some help - it's called the XCopy "Black List" and it's all the things you'll have to attend to in order to get XCopy to work well for you -
http://dvdxcopy.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/49908.
cheers,
Pete
When the time comes and you become tired of XCopy you're welcome to come back and we can set you up with programs that will work well with almost any PC as long as Roxio/Easy CD isn't on it.
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semolina
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10. May 2004 @ 12:05 |
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Well thank you for the feedback. YES, I have made up my mind; that's why I'm here trying to get as much info as I can before I screw up my drive. I uninstalled Roxio (which I failed to mention), turned off my antivirus and firewall, disconnected from the internet and closed absolutely everything and the Decrypter process still didn't work. Because of that, I bought the X Copy which DOES work; my drive just won't burn the Ritek disks that were advised here, nor will it burn TDK, which NEC says are supposed to work. Frankly, I don't want to keep buying discs on a "hit or miss," so I DECIDED I must need updated firmware. I just don't see how you know which you are supposed to use (hence the post on 24 April) especially when I am given two different websites from which to download the firmware. I have CHOSEN to go to the German NEC site thanks to Car.Mike's response, and will download version 1.0A according to ScubaPete. I apologize for the seemingly redundant nature of my questions, but since Nephilim suggested that I come back to the site if I had ANY other questions before I "flash," I took up the offer. I guess I just didn't ask my questions in a succinctly different way from the initial questions--my bad. What I should have asked were:
What percent chance , if any, do I have of hosing my drive even if I install the firmware correctly?
Again, how does one determine which version is needed besides just taking your word for it?
Thank you.
I am definitely a novice.
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10. May 2004 @ 19:29 |
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Hi,
Quote: What percent chance , if any, do I have of hosing my drive even if I install the firmware correctly?
Very small chance if you use the firmware designed for your exact model drive. I'm glad you came back for more help :)
I didn't mean to be a naysayer, but you have to take into consideration that some people (not implying you!) don't pay attention to what they're doing and end up trying to flash firmware for the wrong drive or have other apps running while trying to flash etc, etc. That's why I said what I said. Flashing is a pretty straight forward process that can be intimidating the first time you try it, plus the listed firmwares at rpc1.org are kind of confusing since they have five different categories of firmwares for the NEC-1300A.
Quote: Again, how does one determine which version is needed besides just taking your word for it?
I found this e-mail address for questions about OEM drives from NEC's site:
oem.products@necsam.com
You might give them a shout letting them know you're having media compatability troubles and if they could recommend somewhere to get an updated firmware. Your drive should absolutely be able to burn the G04 Riteks.
One other thing that may help - here's a link to a small app called zapper60 that will remove all traces of Roxio from your system:
http://www.microadvantage.net/downloads/zapper60.zip
Hang in there, trooper! We'll get you burning :)
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11. May 2004 @ 16:09 |
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Quote: What percent chance , if any, do I have of hosing my drive even if I install the firmware correctly?
I'll go Nephilim just one better - If you look at my sig you'll see I have the same drive - if you download the 1.0A and follow there's almost a zero chance of you screwing up. (There's absoutly nothing in this world besides death that's guaranteed 100% but this is as close to that as you'll come.)
and As Nephilim said, you should have no trouble burning any of the discs that have been mentioned here so far -
Quote: I uninstalled Roxio (which I failed to mention), turned off my antivirus and firewall, disconnected from the internet and closed absolutely everything and the Decrypter process still didn't work.
YEA !!! Good bye Roxio ! (very smart move, that.)
As far as shutting down your Firewall and your Anti-virus, your DVD Xcopy is the program that wants that done not DVD Decrypter. Matter of fact, DVD Decrypter is one program that even DVD Xcopy recommends you use with their program.
Things to remember about DVD Decrypter, it can rip and burn BUT ONLY smaller DVD?s, those UNDER 4.36GB. DVD Decrypter works ripping a DVD when all else fails. There isn?t any known reason why DVD Decrypter won?t work well for you UNLESS you are running the old FAT32 HD configuration and then it?s the 4GB cap that is the problem.
I suggest that you take a quick look at a guide I wrote at the bottom of this thread?s first page - http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/79846. This should get you started with the FREE software linked there :D)
As far as DVD-5?s, here is a guide for those small guys -
ScubaPete?s Guide to using DVD Decrypter to backup DVD-5?s
First, you should, as many of you do already, create a folder for your DVD backup before hand. This is the place on your HD where DVD Decrypter will work on your movie. Try to put it someplace where you won?t forget it - i.e. C:/All DVD work/Pirates of the Caribbean.
Open DVD Decrypter and go to ?Mode?, then ?ISO?, then ?Read?.
Where it says ?Source?, put your DVD drive -
Where it says ?Destination?, Browse until you find your folder -
Click the ?Disc to HD? icon.
After the reading / ripping is finished - Insert your Blank DVD in your burner.
Go to ?Mode?, then to ?ISO?, then click ?Write?.
In ?Source? select your folder holding your ISO file.
In ?Destination? Browse to your burner -
Click the ?HD to disc? icon -
(Now some buddy PLEASE tell me why I had to write this - some things are too easy to explain :P) lol
Now that you?re moving along, between this guide and the first one you should be ?Head Cook? in the DVD Kitchen -
Pete
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pastyboyz
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13. May 2004 @ 15:56 |
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Ok, I need to ask what is so wrong with Roxio ?
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13. May 2004 @ 16:42 |
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Roxio is notoriously bad for screwing up other burning apps.
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13. May 2004 @ 17:39 |
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(What's wrong with Roxio is like asking what's wrong with a nail in your foot - for a sprinter it means something different than someone who has a wooden leg)
Roxio is fine if you don't want to backup DVD's.
If you want to backup DVD's then you must be that sprinter with that nail - you're not going to go far -
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13. May 2004 @ 18:10 |
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pastyboyz asked:
Ok, I need to ask what is so wrong with Roxio ?
I use Roxio Easy Media Creator 7, and I have had absolutely no problems whatsoever compressing with DVD Shrink and burning with Nero. I have no packet writing portions of Roxio or Nero loaded, though.
I do respect the views of those who post here. I have learned much from them. They, however, are sometimes wrong in what they say in some posts. I have seen much bashing of Roxio here, and sometimes Roxio deserves that bashing, but to say that Roxio will screw up your backing up your DVD's is dead wrong. If it wasn't wrong, I would have no backed up DVD's, which is not the case.
Bruce
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semolina
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13. May 2004 @ 18:41 |
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Well all, I have flashed my drive. It's still working so I musta done everything correctly. It still won't burn the Ritek G04 disks I have though, maybe I just got bad stuff. Oh well I know it burns to Imation+R and Memorex-RW, so that's good enough for now. I'll try Verbatim once I can find a single for sale. I actually found another link for NEC firmware at the NEC site: http://support.necsam.com/OEM/downloads/FlashFirmware/ in case ya'll want to add that to your knowledge banks.
As for the DVD 5 info you supplied, ScubaPete, I don't know why you are listing it here either, since I didn't ask about it, but I am sure whomever else visits shall benefit. Now that I have X Copy there really isn't any point to using Decrypter now. All along my problem was probably just the firmware update, although I haven't bothered to check that theory out. It's not worth the wait when the X Copy works so quickly and well. I might as well let it start to pay for itself ;)
Thanks for all the help.
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14. May 2004 @ 17:01 |
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Quote: As for the DVD 5 info you supplied, ScubaPete, I don't know why you are listing it here either, since I didn't ask about it
semolina, I posted the DVD-5 info because DVD Decrypter is an excellent DVD-5 processor, you had it on your system and so I felt it didn't do any harm giving you the guide to put it to use -
At sometime in the future, who knows, you might get the urge to play with another program so now you have the guide to do it - use it or not, it's no skin off my nose. I just put it out there and if doing so offended you, ?since you didn?t ask for it?, I'm sorry I posted something you couldn't use -
I'm glad you're up and running despite my assistance,
Best of luck, cheers,
Pete
Quote: but to say that Roxio will screw up your backing up your DVD's is dead wrong. If it wasn't wrong, I would have no backed up DVD's, which is not the case.
GrandpaBW, you are not the first to have no problem with Roxio but, as you know, all PC?s are different and for each of you who have Nero and Roxio cavorting in the same room, there are 20 or 30 more whose backup problems have been solved by ridding their system of Roxio, even the very last registry wisps have been known to choke Nero half-to-death.
We recommend certain media for our tasking job of backing up movies but there are some, a few, who?ve had no trouble at all using the cheapest thing they can find. I try to speak to the vast majority and at no time do I ever say, categorically, this or that is wrong (with the exception of blatant Piracy). I sorry if I came across to you that I was in fact saying, 100% of everyone who uses Roxio will experience trouble. I would however say that the very vast majority of those experiencing difficulty with Nero and who also have Easy CD Creator on their system, are having that trouble because of Roxio. Experience has taught me that. Experience has also taught me that most PC?s with XP as an OS also have Roxio.
So when someone has trouble, it is easier to eliminate Roxio, when the problem is cleared up, install it or not - it?s up to the owner -
Ooohh, BTW, it?s fine to ask questions around here, we all learn from it - and in case no one has done it before, let me personally Welcome to our little Club :D)
Cheers,
Pete
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15. May 2004 @ 05:22 |
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Quote: GrandpaBW, you are not the first to have no problem with Roxio but, as you know, all PC?s are different and for each of you who have Nero and Roxio cavorting in the same room, there are 20 or 30 more whose backup problems have been solved by ridding their system of Roxio, even the very last registry wisps have been known to choke Nero half-to-death.
We recommend certain media for our tasking job of backing up movies but there are some, a few, who?ve had no trouble at all using the cheapest thing they can find. I try to speak to the vast majority and at no time do I ever say, categorically, this or that is wrong (with the exception of blatant Piracy). I sorry if I came across to you that I was in fact saying, 100% of everyone who uses Roxio will experience trouble. I would however say that the very vast majority of those experiencing difficulty with Nero and who also have Easy CD Creator on their system, are having that trouble because of Roxio. Experience has taught me that. Experience has also taught me that most PC?s with XP as an OS also have Roxio.
So when someone has trouble, it is easier to eliminate Roxio, when the problem is cleared up, install it or not - it?s up to the owner -
Ooohh, BTW, it?s fine to ask questions around here, we all learn from it - and in case no one has done it before, let me personally Welcome to our little Club :D)
Cheers,
Pete
Pete, I do know that there are many who have problems with Roxio co-existing with Nero on their computers. I must be one of the lucky ones. I also know that you, and some others, have done a fantastic job of monitoring these forums and helping folks who are having problems. My intent was not to irritate you. My intent was to un-irritate (no such word. lol) me by letting others know that the 2 can co-exist for some.
I do thank you for your posts here. I knew nothing about what media to burn and now use Ritek media. Nary a coaster. I had some CMC MAG FO1 4x media. I would venture to guess that the fail rate was over 90%. I thought it was something that I was doing wrong. After I visited these forums, I did find out I was doing something wrong. I was using lousy media. lol
Bruce
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15. May 2004 @ 18:37 |
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Quote: My intent was not to irritate you.
Bruce my friend, you didn't irritate me in the least - I don't mind at all when someone asks a reason for my opinion -
I do however get "Ticked off" when someone makes a blanket statement and when asked why replies, "Because I say so !" I wish more would ask, "Why ?" when I forget to include my reasons. I have been known to make mistakes and welcome to opportunity to correct myself when that happens.
"Irritate me," no, you never did -
cheers,
Pete
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87gnx
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16. May 2004 @ 09:37 |
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I used DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink and when im ready to burn it says Cannot Read Medium - Unknown Format. Just wondering how I fix this so that i can burn dvd's?
Please Help Me!
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16. May 2004 @ 10:06 |
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Hi 87gnx,
Rather than posting the same question on various threads, Try starting a new thread.
Please read the rules.
As previously answered, make sure your burner supports the format of the blank media you are trying to use.
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