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just want to say
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punchie
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6. May 2004 @ 06:28 |
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how good it is to pray to God , to feel him in my life to know that went all is done , he is still there for me. went there is no one to turn too , he is there .i'm happy because he hear my cry and he help me . thank lord.
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brian100
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6. May 2004 @ 06:56 |
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In the dictionary under the word "athiest" it says "see brian100"
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6. May 2004 @ 07:06 |
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I believe in god but i dont like him, everything in my life got too fucked up man, people died so i have turned my back now!
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6. May 2004 @ 08:44 |
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To have a fulfilling life, you must believe in something, otherwise when the end comes, what will u have lived for?
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6. May 2004 @ 09:45 |
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I have absolute faith but have absolutely no use for religion. Religion is nothing more than a control mechanism developed by people. Rules, rules, rules, you can't do this, you can't do that , blah blah blah.
If it works for you, then have at it.
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"And there we saw the giants, and we were in our own sight as grasshoppers, and so we were in their sight" - Numbers 13:33 This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 6. May 2004 @ 09:46
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6. May 2004 @ 10:01 |
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I agree completely with that
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madbaz
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6. May 2004 @ 14:19 |
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In my humble opinion i believe there was such a person as Jesus Christ and he was the very first and original con man. He sucked money from everyone he could and used it to recruit "blind people" and "cripples". He had a definite impact on the world with cult leaders still imitating him to this day.
should of stuck to the atari. bloody technology
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DarkmanX
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6. May 2004 @ 14:51 |
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That's pretty harsh madbaz. I know that the examples of religion has been tarnished as of late; issues with the catholic church and in appropriate contact with boys, church officials sucking their congregations funds for personal gain, and the list goes on, but I don't see how you can say that Jesus scammed people out of their money and recruited blind and sick people.
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madbaz
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6. May 2004 @ 15:08 |
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I find it very hard to believe anything in the bible such as Noahs arc carry 2 of every spieces, the valley of death where skeletons rise from the ground and that any God would make someone sacrifice thier only child just so they could have more.
I dont think the blind and cripples he recruited were actauly handicap just more conmen like himself.
This is strictly my point of view and just like Dela I to have become a sceptic due to circumstances that would never occur under an all loving God.
should of stuck to the atari. bloody technology
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6. May 2004 @ 16:54 |
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I find the Bible to be a book of parables meant to guide people. It seems everyone is so damn obsessed with taking every little thing from it literally that they miss the big picture: be good to yourself and others. People have turned an intrinsically good and insightful book into the biggest collection of excuses to hate and discriminate against others. 'Tis a shame really.
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6. May 2004 @ 17:18 |
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I think the churches are Hierarchy's wishing to take ur money. Why does my church (catholic) require expensive gold cups and all these expensive stuff, when the whole idea of the church is to bring a community together, not take their money and squander it on stupid possessions. The pope is a very rich man - same for other religions...
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DarkmanX
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6. May 2004 @ 19:35 |
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We must remember that the bible was written by the hands of man. Now people of faith would like to believe that a higher being inspired these men to write these books of the bible, but we really don't know. Ask yourself this, if a man, in 2004, wrote a book to amend chapters in the bible and claimed that he got a vision from god to write the book, people would discount his writings, yet that's exactly what has evolved into todays religion.
There is validity that images of a wrathful god would be useful in manipulating people to do as they are instructed by " leaders of their days. The church was all powerful at one in time, even ruled over kings. Fear can be a powerful tool to manipulate
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Sinjin
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6. May 2004 @ 19:40 |
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I think any "religion" aka belief structure, faith, what have you, that serves to bring peoples together and unite, is of great social value. It is far to often that these religions attempt to divide peoples. What the hell is that good for? I think on my catholic school days when I was informed that it was my duty to judge people. Although now I have slipped on to the side of aetheist, I can't help but feel a warm fuzzy feeling about humanity's true potential and what we all can accomplish when we work together for a common good. I don't know if we need religion for this purpose, but I don't think these views shouldn't have to be excluded. God or no God, we should all get our damn shit together! WTF man! And yes, I did have a few too many at the pub tonight! :)
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madbaz
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6. May 2004 @ 22:12 |
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And yes, I did have a few too many at the pub tonight! :)
You sinner! :)
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7. May 2004 @ 06:54 |
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To have a fulfilling life, you must believe in something, otherwise when the end comes, what will u have lived for?
1. According to the way you have been brought up and your life experiences etc that may be true.
2. If you believe in something, when you die, what will those beliefs accomplish?
3. I live for my job. I dont believe in it.
Cheers.
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DarkmanX
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7. May 2004 @ 19:46 |
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God or no god, what's wrong with an ideal that promotes peace and good will towards man. If we strive to be better individuals and to live better lives aren't the people we enteract with the better for it, and thus blessed.
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8. May 2004 @ 06:39 |
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Yes, but most of todays problems (and violence) are in someway associated back to a religion. Religion causes more problems that it cures in my opinion...
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DarkmanX
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8. May 2004 @ 07:25 |
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Hey!!! I'm a full fledge member.
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8. May 2004 @ 07:35 |
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Im not saying that religion is wrong, im saying that because of religion, there are a lot of problems today that may have been avoided. Hitler killed thousands of Jews because of their religion. Catholics and Protestants fight in Ireland because of religion, muslims fight Christians.....all because of religion...
But religion is a good thing and is misused all the time by people for so called violent acts in the name of God/Allah
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Hanedrick
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8. May 2004 @ 08:29 |
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Religion does seem like an inconvinience b/c all it seems to do is divide people up even more. For example at my school if people were to start talkin about religion I would have to try to avoid them b/c if I were to tell some people (especially in the Southern U.S.) that I was Atheist/Agnostic then they would think that I was the one of the life forms of life on Earth and that my life is a waste, and that I'll burn in hell for the rest of eternity. Sounds comforting:-) I know from personal experiance that there are some people who won't even talk to people who don't beleive in God. Most people aren't this harsh but there still are lot. What I gather is that religion only allows you to be kind and caring to people of that religion and it seems to cause more hate and conflict than it does peace. People should just drop organized religion, come up with their own personal faith that they feel is right and learn to except other peoples faiths.
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THEDICE
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16. May 2004 @ 01:06 |
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if god realy exists take a look at the world today and the evil and horrific crimes that are comitted against humanity every day the way good people die young of cancer and other horrific diseases then the devil must be winning.
ps i cant spell worth a shit
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jonnijon
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16. May 2004 @ 01:43 |
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stand 100 people in a row,tell the first one a story then get him to tell the next person,and so down the line.then hear the story from the last person...imagine it after 2400 years.
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19. May 2004 @ 07:44 |
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Wow a God thread, how did I miss this one.
In response to THEDICE, the main beleive is that god works for man. The best example a roses, god would like to keep roses, not that specific rose over there that I steped on, but roses in general. The same is for mankind. Not a specific man, but mankind will progress.
Now with that said I am along the side of Nephilim. I beleive in Knoledge. I want to know everything and that is my goal, and what I live for. So learning new, reading, test new computer things ete.
So I believe we all need purpose, but that a lot of religions will prevent you for determining you personal purpose. The whole original point of relegion was why are we here. If it provents that, then its not good.
For Brian 100 you should watch Contact. Good film for you.
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19. May 2004 @ 19:03 |
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I do not think badly of anyone for whatever religion they choose. For me, i just want proof, thats all, give me one good single shred of hardcore evidence that god exists. Something that science cant explain. Until then i'll just believe in myself and do what i feel is right. I've never understood the devotion people of any religion have for something they've never seen. anyone can start a religion, all you gotta do is believe in something and convince other people. usually by making the life they have look so terrible and filled with bad things that they have to run from themselves and join "the group" to be clean again.
Here's the way i see it, IF there is a god, and this god is all forgiving, then he is not going to look down at me for just trying to lead a decent life, loving my neighbor, not killing anybody, and generally just not being an asshole. So even though i dont pray, go to church, or even believe that there is a god, i'll get into heaven anyway if I'm wrong. I think people use religion as a crutch, a way of making them selves feel better. I have an aunt who had a 7 yr old daughter and 2 years after she married her new husband, he molested the girl for like months before she told. my aunt was upset but not like a mom should be who's 7 yr old daughter was molested by her own husband! She said she was "leaving it up to the grace of jesus". Well 6 moths later the hubby moves back in because "Jesus healed him". SHe believed to the point of being blind. And I'm not saying that there is anything wrong with that at all, if a person needs to believe in a higher power, and that belief leads them or helps them be a better person and live a better life, then I'm all for it. I have never judged anyone's religious beliefs of any kind. I think everyone is entitle to believe, just as I am entitled to not believe.
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THEDICE
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20. May 2004 @ 00:03 |
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its as simple as this for me i live a good decent life i dont hurt people rob people im not cruel to animals i dont steal .i pay my way and im generouse and usually willing to help.so why do i need to read a book and live my life by the rules set down in it.i my mind was so weak that i had to have someone or something to tell me how to live my life then id be a robot, a sheep ,a blind follower ,and thats just not me .
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