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RIAA wants to make FM radios mandatory in all smartphones, MP3 players

article published on 17 August, 2010

The RIAA and NAB have proposed a new bill that would force all smartphones, MP3 players and tablets to include an FM radio in the future. Gary Shapiro, the president of the Consumer Electronics Association (CEA), had some harsh words for the proposal, as it would affect a large number of devices built by CEA members. "Rather than adapt to the digital marketplace, NAB and RIAA act like ... [ read the full article ]

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17. August 2010 @ 17:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Some people just don't listen to radio on their players or phones you know, they listen to THEIR OWN MUSIC.
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17. August 2010 @ 17:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
God forbid apple has to add a button to their devices
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17. August 2010 @ 18:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ROMaster2:
Some people just don't listen to radio on their players or phones you know, they listen to THEIR OWN MUSIC.
But then how will they impose commercials and commercial music upon you!?
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17. August 2010 @ 18:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I don't really understand why they are pushing this. There has to be something where this feeds money back to the RIAA? (i.e. how these royalties work) But I'm not seeing where it's connected. Undoubtedly these guys are as crooked as they come.
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17. August 2010 @ 18:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Honestly, who the hell do the RIAA think they are? If devices are going to have Fm radio's, then it's up to the company/manufacturer who OWNS the device. **** OFF RIAA.
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17. August 2010 @ 18:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
wow if i wanted a fm radio i would not have bought an ipod i think the riaa and nab are forgetting that a fm radio was an option on some media player devices for the last 3-5 years that i can remember and the devices would cost more because the cost of the fm radio rights would be placed on the buyer . they dont sell well in the us because most if not all fm radio station are now dj free from 10 am to 6am thats all but the morning drive and lets not forget the many pop music only stations. after all it was them that got rid of the dj stations and made them music only . i have lots of music(mp3) that i play at work why would i pay more for a device that has an fm radio when its just music only just like my mp3s and lets not forget they might place a checking system in the player to stop you from playing your mp3s because you did not buy the tracks you encoded them and when you sync it up it might send your info to tell them who to sue for (stolen music ) not bought music
forcing the public to buy a fm radio player is just a last effort attempt for them to try to wedge a quickly dieing format to a newer format that is in its early prime to make itself relevant and to try to conform the new standard to the old standard instead of changing radio stations to compete with if not support the new format standard (please dont hate me for this after all we all have a**holes that spew sh*t just some spew from the mouth by mistake)
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17. August 2010 @ 18:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This is dumb. All of it.
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17. August 2010 @ 20:27 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by deak91:
wow if i wanted a fm radio i would not have bought an ipod i think the riaa and nab are forgetting that a fm radio was an option on some media player devices for the last 3-5 years that i can remember and the devices would cost more because the cost of the fm radio rights would be placed on the buyer . they dont sell well in the us because most if not all fm radio station are now dj free from 10 am to 6am thats all but the morning drive and lets not forget the many pop music only stations. after all it was them that got rid of the dj stations and made them music only . i have lots of music(mp3) that i play at work why would i pay more for a device that has an fm radio when its just music only just like my mp3s and lets not forget they might place a checking system in the player to stop you from playing your mp3s because you did not buy the tracks you encoded them and when you sync it up it might send your info to tell them who to sue for (stolen music ) not bought music
forcing the public to buy a fm radio player is just a last effort attempt for them to try to wedge a quickly dieing format to a newer format that is in its early prime to make itself relevant and to try to conform the new standard to the old standard instead of changing radio stations to compete with if not support the new format standard (please dont hate me for this after all we all have a**holes that spew sh*t just some spew from the mouth by mistake)
Shift and punctuation keys broke, eh?
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17. August 2010 @ 22:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
This is confusing...I don't see their motivation...
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17. August 2010 @ 22:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by andmill11:
God forbid apple has to add a button to their devices
I'm sorry I just rolled laughing xD

In any case I don't see how this could fly.
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17. August 2010 @ 23:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The RIAA can go to hell. They are clueless and out of touch. Their opinion and their My Way or the Highway attitude sucks ass.
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18. August 2010 @ 00:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Dapsone:
I don't really understand why they are pushing this. There has to be something where this feeds money back to the RIAA? (i.e. how these royalties work) But I'm not seeing where it's connected. Undoubtedly these guys are as crooked as they come.

Originally posted by Notcow:
This is confusing...I don't see their motivation...

It's rumored this is related to the NAB planning to stop fighting against performance royalties, which would give RIAA members royalties from terrestrial radio similar to what they get from webcasters and satellite radio already.
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18. August 2010 @ 00:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I honestly dont see the point in putting a radio into everything.if i want a portable device with radio on it, I can walk into any cheapo shop and buy a no brand fm radio for about $2-$10.the ipod shuffles are good cause they are tiny.you can listen to music and no one even notices,putting a screen on them would make them look big and bulky.

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18. August 2010 @ 01:16 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
First they unlawfully sue People on P2P or almost all forms of Sharing Music, Now this? WHAT THE HELL!?

IS this year corporations and schools can get a way with breaking the Law Year? Seriously I just read nobody will be prosecuted in the School Web Cam Scandal and now this....

Its like we the regular people or Actors are involved in any scandal we get screwed yet Corporations and Schools they can almost get away with anything.

Are we in the Twilight Zone or woke in some alternate reality( little Sarcasm) It really feels the law in the globe works bat shit insane backwards

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18. August 2010 @ 02:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If I wanted a radio, I would have one! I actually removed the antenna from my car because I didn't like listening to those dumb DJ's and ads when I switched SD cards...I prefer static!
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18. August 2010 @ 02:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
surely it should be left up to the manufacturers if people want a device with built in radio they will buy one, why increase the cost for those that dont ? the world is going crazy (id say America but the UK is getting just as bad)
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18. August 2010 @ 02:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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If I wanted a radio, I would have one! I actually removed the antenna from my car because I didn't like listening to those dumb DJ's and ads when I switched SD cards...I prefer static!
Looking into one now.
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18. August 2010 @ 04:12 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thinks its time the government and corporations start asking people what they want instead of telling them what to do.

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18. August 2010 @ 09:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
The gov't doesn't care about what people want; so that will never happen, they care about power and money.
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18. August 2010 @ 12:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
agreed.
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18. August 2010 @ 13:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by vurbal:
It's rumored this is related to the NAB planning to stop fighting against performance royalties, which would give RIAA members royalties from terrestrial radio similar to what they get from webcasters and satellite radio already.


no doubt, its definitely connected to this. however its just the riaa flexing there flabby muscle. after all they have no real power in this manner.


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18. August 2010 @ 19:06 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Seriously, the RIAA is getting out of hand here. My God, if radio is THAT important to them, why don't they just put that feature into their MP3 players or whatever portable device they have, and leave us the hell alone!!
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18. August 2010 @ 23:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Because the people from RIAA don't want to listen to the radio; they know that it is terrible. The music is little more than advertising for the bands, then there is a crummy DJ that no one likes, and then they have 35 minutes of actual ads for every hour. On top of that, all of this is in quality similar to a 64K mp3. Yes, there are occasional nuggets of quality...but most of these are available online.

The people who still listen to the radio already have a radio, in fact, they probably have several radios...and those who do not want to listen to the radio are not suddenly going to start listening to the radio just because they happen to have a radio in their phone.

These huge corporations are playing games with our laws and our rights just to settle an agreement in a way in which two parties, both in the wrong, can both win...while defeating the public who will not even be included in the process.
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19. August 2010 @ 14:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by KillerBug:
Because the people from RIAA don't want to listen to the radio; they know that it is terrible. The music is little more than advertising for the bands, then there is a crummy DJ that no one likes, and then they have 35 minutes of actual ads for every hour. On top of that, all of this is in quality similar to a 64K mp3. Yes, there are occasional nuggets of quality...but most of these are available online.

The people who still listen to the radio already have a radio, in fact, they probably have several radios...and those who do not want to listen to the radio are not suddenly going to start listening to the radio just because they happen to have a radio in their phone.

These huge corporations are playing games with our laws and our rights just to settle an agreement in a way in which two parties, both in the wrong, can both win...while defeating the public who will not even be included in the process.
Couldn't agree with you more, Especially with crap like this it feels like Gov/Corporations First Gov/The People Later or Never
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20. August 2010 @ 11:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
If the w*nk*rs in the UK get their way, FM will be obsolete in a few years anyway. Leave us with digital cr*p, that has as much chance of holding a signal as me of holding Sandra Bullock (or whoever you fancy).
 
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