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Sony: PlayStation 4 games already in development
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article published on 18 August, 2010
According to Game Informer Australia, Sony is already preparing games for the upcoming PlayStation 4, the console which has not even been announced yet.
Rumors of the PlayStation 4 have been around since the start of the year, with most expecting a 2012 launch.
While Sony's talk of games is not a direct announcement of the upcoming console, it does make sense that the company is preparing ... [ read the full article ]
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18. August 2010 @ 15:26 |
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I think is too soon, all game systems that is out is just "NOW" in their prime.
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18. August 2010 @ 15:34 |
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I personally think Sony should just learn from their mistakes and stop releasing consoles and stick to making home entertainment and media centres which is what they're good at. I'm not a fanboy and i don't intend on starting a flame war here, but we all know that PSP was a big flop compared to the hype it was getting and the PS3 doesn't really have anything going for it either. There's only a hand full of Sony exclusive titles available and everything else is multi platform.
The downfall was always the price of the unit. For the mainstream titles majority of people are going to buy the cheaper console. The only people I know of that have a PS3 are gadget geeks who like to have EVERYTHING (unfortunatly that's me) and hardcore Sony fans and the occasional person who wanted a blu-ray player. lol
Sony had their glory days when PS1 & PS2 ruled the consoles of those generations. So I think they should leave the console and game market to people who know what they're doing.
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18. August 2010 @ 16:07 |
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I am one to think, Sony has learned from some of their business mis-cues. They tried to make the PS3 multidimensional media unit, which by the price in the beginning, lost a lot of people. Sony thought it was going to take off and they were wrong.
I am willing to bet PS4 is going to be a more gamer console, much like the PS2, and yes I know PS2 was slated to be a multimedia unit as well.
To date, I do not own either a 360 or ps3, they just do not get me all that excited. Game titles are nice, but not enough to make me want to buy one.
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18. August 2010 @ 17:25 |
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Wow so soon. I can even imagine another console even two years from now. I think that the graphics that we have today are mroe then good enough to last us for atleast four more years but hey that the way the console revolution has always been.
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18. August 2010 @ 18:02 |
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how much better can the graphics on the next generation machines get? if it is already taking 18 months plus now how much longer will it take on the new machines and what would it cost to produce.i just cant see a great leap just yet without the price of gaming going through the roof or producers not taking any risks and making just generic games that they know will sell well
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18. August 2010 @ 20:45 |
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nah 2012 seems about right for a new console after all the Graphics unit especially in the PS3 is far outdated.
in reality all they would have to do is swap out the GPU for something more powerful, as the cell processor can pull its weight 15-20 years from now. of coarse they'll be stupid and go for something more mundane like ARM or another PPC.
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18. August 2010 @ 21:24 |
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Originally posted by Link2205:
I personally think Sony should just learn from their mistakes and stop releasing consoles and stick to making home entertainment and media centres which is what they're good at. I'm not a fanboy and i don't intend on starting a flame war here, but we all know that PSP was a big flop compared to the hype it was getting and the PS3 doesn't really have anything going for it either. There's only a hand full of Sony exclusive titles available and everything else is multi platform.
The downfall was always the price of the unit. For the mainstream titles majority of people are going to buy the cheaper console. The only people I know of that have a PS3 are gadget geeks who like to have EVERYTHING (unfortunatly that's me) and hardcore Sony fans and the occasional person who wanted a blu-ray player. lol
Sony had their glory days when PS1 & PS2 ruled the consoles of those generations. So I think they should leave the console and game market to people who know what they're doing.
ahhhh I am a sony fan... but i can't disagree with what you've said there, apart from the part where you said they should stop making altogether! i think they should continue! =D PS3/PSP (and PSPGo, dopnt get me started on that thing..) have failed to create the audience intended... only die-hard playstation fans would by it (sadly, myself). PS4 does open a window of new opportunity, and I am pleased to see them carrying on making despite their large blow in the seventh gen.
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18. August 2010 @ 21:57 |
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Originally posted by DXR88:
nah 2012 seems about right for a new console after all the Graphics unit especially in the PS3 is far outdated.
in reality all they would have to do is swap out the GPU for something more powerful, as the cell processor can pull its weight 15-20 years from now. of coarse they'll be stupid and go for something more mundane like ARM or another PPC.
You have no idea what you're talking about. They're gonna go with MIPS again, cause that went really well with them the last time...
Anyways, the timing according to what it's used to is right, but it feels way too soon. Maybe 2013-14?
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18. August 2010 @ 23:04 |
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Originally posted by rvinkebob:
Originally posted by DXR88:
nah 2012 seems about right for a new console after all the Graphics unit especially in the PS3 is far outdated.
in reality all they would have to do is swap out the GPU for something more powerful, as the cell processor can pull its weight 15-20 years from now. of coarse they'll be stupid and go for something more mundane like ARM or another PPC.
You have no idea what you're talking about. They're gonna go with MIPS again, cause that went really well with them the last time...
Anyways, the timing according to what it's used to is right, but it feels way too soon. Maybe 2013-14?
2012 really is about right...6 years is a very long time when it comes to hardware, and if Sony does not keep ahead of themselves, Microsoft will bring out the XboX720 before they get the chance...it needs a new GPU, and (at least) an updated version of the cell that allows for higher speeds due to the smaller micron processes they currently use. It also needs some ram, and the USB ports need to be updated. It also needs a lot of other things, like MKV support, ext4 support, etc...but knowing sony, it won't get them...ever.
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19. August 2010 @ 03:29 |
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So they will release a new console, because the current one can't do 3D at 1080p.
That wouldn't increase game development cost though. Also, it would be reasonable to expect the PS4 to be fully compatible with PS3, because core tecnology won't change (similar cell procesor and a ATI graphics card).
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19. August 2010 @ 06:55 |
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Originally posted by Link2205:
Sony had their glory days when PS1 & PS2 ruled the consoles of those generations. So I think they should leave the console and game market to people who know what they're doing.
that paragraph just shows how contradictory your point is.
I cant wait to see what's next for all companies myself. who comes out on tops is very fluid, the success of the wii proves this recently, i think all can flip on its head with the next hardware releases as it has done before
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19. August 2010 @ 09:21 |
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Originally posted by patrick_:
So they will release a new console, because the current one can't do 3D at 1080p.
That wouldn't increase game development cost though. Also, it would be reasonable to expect the PS4 to be fully compatible with PS3, because core tecnology won't change (similar cell procesor and a ATI graphics card).
3D? Really? I think we are a long way from a industry standard that won't require you to buy expensive glasses and a special TV..I am all for people supporting it so they eventually do get a good working standard out there but until then I'm not jumping on the bloody stump of technology (laying out big money for pre standard and eventually abandoned standards...). I hope Microsoft and Sony avoid 3d until it is worth doing...
I agree they really need to pour more money into putting out worthwile games..Not much out for any of the consoles worth playing. Frankly they have me looking back to my PC for gaming lately..
Also as the consoles age shouldn't they be cheaper to make? I know the PS3 has come down quite a bit over the years but isn't $200 for a basic system, 1 controller and no game still a bit much???
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19. August 2010 @ 17:00 |
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I am by no means a fanboy of any system. We got a Wii since we loved the Gamecube games and wanted to keep playing them. (curses to Nintendo for ceasing production of the Gamecube controllers, making the forward compatibility useless after the controller break). The Wii has been alot of fun (I have younger children). But we got a PS3 for Christmas (for me) and now the Wii gets used only about 10% of the time.
The PS3 is quite a good system. And to me feels new. It may be 4 years old, but to many it will be new. It really is surprisingly a good system. I'm dismayed that it has been hacked since that can be the death knoll of a system. Who wants to make quality games that will go unpaid for.
I guess if it takes the masses 4+ years to start accepting a system, you ought to start early with the next system.
Now, nintendo really needs to update. The Wii really is just a glorified Gamecube.
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19. August 2010 @ 20:47 |
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So, when it´s going down to $99 i´m buying one when it´s there.
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19. August 2010 @ 23:02 |
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Originally posted by patrick_:
So they will release a new console, because the current one can't do 3D at 1080p.
That wouldn't increase game development cost though. Also, it would be reasonable to expect the PS4 to be fully compatible with PS3, because core tecnology won't change (similar cell procesor and a ATI graphics card).
@patrick Yes, I think your on the ball here -- tho pretty sure it's nVidia in the PS3 and ATI in the 360 -- Sony's best tactic this time would be to make it fully backwards compatible for the PS3.
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20. August 2010 @ 18:25 |
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I think is going to be overprice again like ps3.
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21. August 2010 @ 08:52 |
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Everything is overpriced Voyager :)
I welcome the changes, the gaming industry is constantly changing, let it be 3D or something else, the more choices for the gamers, the better it is, no? Besides, you don't have to buy anything, it's a free world after all :)
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23. August 2010 @ 13:48 |
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Did Sony make some mistakes when it comes to the PS3? Yes. Did it hurt them initially? Yes. That being said, the PS3 as of June 2010 has sold only 3 million less units than the 360 which came out a full year earlier. The PS3 had a larger HD, Blu-Ray, Wi-Fi internet connection, and wireless controllers. When my buddy and I went out to buy the 360 to play Halo 2 on, we were blown away on how much MORE it cost us to buy all the extras to make it similar to the PS3. Sony is finally getting their marketing right. It DOES do everything. Now the games coming out are absolutely amazing, i.e. Little Big Planet 2. I do think that 6 years is too early AND too late for a PS4. Too early because the PS3 is still highly capable and too late because how fast hardware changes. I would only consider getting a PS4 if the price wasn't too high.
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23. August 2010 @ 17:09 |
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Originally posted by Gnawnivek:
Everything is overpriced Voyager :)
I welcome the changes, the gaming industry is constantly changing, let it be 3D or something else, the more choices for the gamers, the better it is, no? Besides, you don't have to buy anything, it's a free world after all :)
ah but gimmicks are often copied,3d wont be any difference. then you must realize the potential downfall to the gimmick is that not everyone brains can process the extra information myself included. i can only view 3D if it being powered by a VR headset, even that makes my head feel like it'll explode.
its like listening to a surround sound system with the speaker polarity swapped while playing it on a CRT with 60Hz. man that stuff can cause brain damage, no joke.
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Originally posted by alexeemo:
Did Sony make some mistakes when it comes to the PS3? Yes. Did it hurt them initially? Yes. That being said, the PS3 as of June 2010 has sold only 3 million less units than the 360 which came out a full year earlier. The PS3 had a larger HD, Blu-Ray, Wi-Fi internet connection, and wireless controllers. When my buddy and I went out to buy the 360 to play Halo 2 on, we were blown away on how much MORE it cost us to buy all the extras to make it similar to the PS3. Sony is finally getting their marketing right. It DOES do everything. Now the games coming out are absolutely amazing, i.e. Little Big Planet 2. I do think that 6 years is too early AND too late for a PS4. Too early because the PS3 is still highly capable and too late because how fast hardware changes. I would only consider getting a PS4 if the price wasn't too high.
Why would you buy a 360 to play a 6 year old game? Your post shows nothing but blatant fanboyism. How do you know little big planet 2 is amazing? It's not out yet. The first looked amazing too, and look how bad it was. The new 360 has built in wifi, a bigger hard drive than the bottom level PS3, and the 360 has better wireless controllers.
I mean come on.
You could have at least said you can use your own hard drive in the PS3. You could have said online play was free.
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Sony is following the ways of Apple....how sad. Before you know it, there will be a PS5.
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Originally posted by andmill11:
How do you know little big planet 2 is amazing? It's not out yet. The first looked amazing too, and look how bad it was.
Your "point" is opinion based just as much as alexeemo's was. Difference is alexeemo's point/opinion is supported by LBP 1 winning numerous awards and accolades plus some Game of the Year awards. And from all accounts in the gaming media LBP 2 with PS Move is looking to be even better, especially because it is backwards compatible with LBP 1 levels.
Originally posted by andmill11:
The new 360 has built in wifi
Something 99% of PS3's have had for a while (except for one model) compared to the 360 which is the other way around.
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a bigger hard drive than the bottom level PS3
Something ALL PS3's have that are also cheaper to upgrade if needed whereas all 360's don't have HDD's.
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and the 360 has better wireless controllers
That again is opinion based on 2 accounts. Better meaning feel or better meaning wireless ability. I believe the 360's d-pad is down right terrible along with the triggers for games like fighters. PLUS they're standard wireless not BT (which is actually better), don't come rechargable batteries out the box and the battery pack on the bottom can be quite uncomfortable as well. But that is my own opinion mixed with some known fact.
Originally posted by andmill11:
You could have said online play was free
This is true but I looked at his post as that was known/expected as common knowledge.
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Originally posted by andmill11:
Originally posted by alexeemo:
Did Sony make some mistakes when it comes to the PS3? Yes. Did it hurt them initially? Yes. That being said, the PS3 as of June 2010 has sold only 3 million less units than the 360 which came out a full year earlier. The PS3 had a larger HD, Blu-Ray, Wi-Fi internet connection, and wireless controllers. When my buddy and I went out to buy the 360 to play Halo 2 on, we were blown away on how much MORE it cost us to buy all the extras to make it similar to the PS3. Sony is finally getting their marketing right. It DOES do everything. Now the games coming out are absolutely amazing, i.e. Little Big Planet 2. I do think that 6 years is too early AND too late for a PS4. Too early because the PS3 is still highly capable and too late because how fast hardware changes. I would only consider getting a PS4 if the price wasn't too high.
Why would you buy a 360 to play a 6 year old game? Your post shows nothing but blatant fanboyism. How do you know little big planet 2 is amazing? It's not out yet. The first looked amazing too, and look how bad it was. The new 360 has built in wifi, a bigger hard drive than the bottom level PS3, and the 360 has better wireless controllers.
I mean come on.
You could have at least said you can use your own hard drive in the PS3. You could have said online play was free.
You must not have read the article. If they release a PS4 by 2012, then the PS3 will only be 6 years old by then. Talk about a fanboy! LBP1 has changed gaming forever. Name one 360 game or any other game that exists that has over 2 million community levels. Oh, that's right, you can't! Just because you didn't like it(which you probably never played it seeing that you are the actual 360 fanboy)that doesn't mean it wasn't great. I've seen over a dozen clips of game play for LBP2 and it will certainly be the biggest game release of 2010. But let's back up my claim that you are the fanboy. Let's see, I quote,"The new 360 has built in wifi, a bigger hard drive than the bottom level PS3, and the 360 has better wireless controllers." Your fanboy argument has all the textbook markers. How long did it take MS to finally build wi-fi into their console. When we bought our external wi-fi for my friends 360, it was a pain in the arse to fit on the back. Second, I bought an original 60gb PS3 with full backwards campatibility, I own 15 games, and I still have over 34gb of space left. Last but not least. your lame opinion that 360 wireless controllers are better. Maybe they are, I don't think they are, but that is clearly only a matter of shear opinion and NOT a fact. Fanboy evidence for the 360 has been presented and you have been found guilty and left wanting....wishing you didn't waste your money on a system that is only great for 1 game i.e. Halo. I rest my case. The end. Good night.
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To be fair, I really do love the 360 for playing some of it's exclusives. I even had one for this summer when my brother-in-law lived with me for a while while going through his divorce. I absolutely love Halo online and XBOX Live is better than PSN(it should be considering you pay for it). I only went off on andmill11 cause he clearly didn't read what I said.
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LITTLE BIG PLANET 1 info care of Wikipedia
Reception
Aggregate scores
Aggregator Score
GameRankings 94% (based on 67 reviews)
Metacritic 95% (based on 84 reviews)
Review scores
Publication Score
1UP.com A+
Edge 10/10
Eurogamer 9/10
Famitsu 38/40
Game Informer 9.5/10
GamePro 5/5
GameSpot 9/10
GameTrailers 9.4/10
Official PlayStation Magazine (UK) 10/10
X-Play 5/5
IGN (UK) 9.7/10
IGN (US) 9.5/10
IGN (Aus) 9.2/10
Giant Bomb 5/5
Awards
Entity Award
Edge Best Game (2008)
Best Innovation (2008)
Best Visual Design (2008)
Eurogamer Best Game (2008)
GamePro Game of the Year (2008)
GameTrailers Most Innovative Game (2008)
IGN Best New IP (2008)
Most Innovative Design (2008)
Spike Best PS3 Game (2008)
AIAS Overall Game of the Year (2008)
Outstanding Achievement in Art Direction (2008)
Outstanding Achievement in Visual Engineering (2008)
Outstanding Innovation in Gaming (2008)
BAFTA Award for Artistic Achievement (2009)
Game Developers Choice Awards Best New Debut (2009)
Best Game Design (2009)
Best Technology Award (2009)
Innovation Award (2009)
Little Big Planet 2 WILL rock!
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