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zraider
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28. May 2004 @ 21:42 |
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Okay, I searched for this and found some hits, but none
that seems to really address my problem.
To start with, I have a NEC ND-2500A.
I've used Shrink to make copies of some of my movies, many which are fairly recent; no problem, but I was using Memorex DVD R/W's. I wanted to make some copies
to keep for a while, so I purchased 10 Maxell +R DVD's.
I thought I had read someplace on the forum that this was an okay brand.
The whole problem is this: I tried making a copy of a movie that tries to place a silly little program on your PC called "IPlayer"; fortunately, I had turned off
my autostart, but, when I made a copy of this movie with Shrink, and burned to the Maxell DVD +R's, when I try to play the movie, after it appears to be loading, I get the message "No Disc". I tried using DVDCryter and making an iso image, still no luck with the Maxell DVD's. I tried DVDXCopy, same result. Maybe this problem is really simple, and these DVD's are just really flakey, as the Memorex R/W's play just fine.
As I stated, I did search for an answer to this, but couldn't find a problem just like it. There is no problem with any of the software as far as making the DVD, it's just the finished product not playing.
Someone please suggest a good brand/deal on DVD's; I guess it has to be these Maxell DVD+R's ?? These things only say DVD+R, 4.7GB, 4X, 2hrs, write once, single sided.
Thanks for any information.
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28. May 2004 @ 23:52 |
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zraider
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29. May 2004 @ 05:06 |
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Thanks ! Did you ever hit the nail on the head !!!
Info regarding the Maxell DVD's below. These things say on them Data-Video; I think I'll go with those DVD's that get mentioned quite a bit, can't think of the name right now, but anything has to be better than these things.
I did upgrade the firmware to 1.07, which was the latest I could find. Is there any source that's states
approximately how long a R/W DVD will securely keep it's data ?
Thanks again for the help and info.
Region information N/A not a DVD-VIDEO
Media code/Manufacturer ID RICOHJPNR01
Media Product Revision Number 02h
Free Blocks 405405696
Free Capacity 4.38GB(4.70GB)
Book Type DVD+R
Media Type DVD+R
Media Id Code Speed 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 5.9x 8112KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 4.0x 5540KBps
Available Write Descriptor CLV 2.4x 3324KBps
Linear Density Blank Disc
Track Density Unknown
Number of Layers 1
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29. May 2004 @ 14:07 |
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The ID on your Maxells is RICOHJPNR01 which is quality media. I'm guessing the media you say gets mentioned a lot is Ritek and, as a point of interest, the Ritek +R that I use are RICOHJPNR01 as well and burn very nicely.
The data retention for RW's, and all discs for that matter, depends on the quality of the disc, the quality of the write and what conditions the disc is stored in afterward.
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The whole problem is this: I tried making a copy of a movie that tries to place a silly little program on your PC called "IPlayer"
The only time I've had a problem with Shrink was with discs that had those stupid little player apps on them. I got around it by ripping the disc with DVD Decrypter and then processing the film with Shrink. It seems you've gotten past the rip but I'm still suspect of those player apps. A couple questions:
Does the problem only occur with the one film with the player app on it?
Does the movie in question work if you burn it to one of your Memorex RW's that have worked in the past?
Are you still having problems with the Maxell's after the firmware upgrade? If you are, I would tend to lay the blame on it being a problem title and not a media issue especially since RICOHJPNR01 is quality and you've tried several different methods and apps.
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rennogsd
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29. May 2004 @ 14:18 |
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I can't help much with anything here but wanted to say that I get the no disc errors probably one out of every ten uses with dvdshrink. It's frustrating.
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zraider
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30. May 2004 @ 05:11 |
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Okay, I'm still working on it, because I don't like mysteries; they were meant to be solved.
Yes, the movie records perfectly on the Memorex R/W's.
No, the movie does not record on the Maxells yet, and
I've already wasted 7 of them.
I did exactly as you stated, and used Decrpyter, then used Shrink. I've tried several things. I still have no answers, but I guess I should try recording another movie to these Maxells. The upgrade to the firmware really had no noticeabe effects, but it didn't hurt.
I'll see how these Maxells do with another movie, and if they work, probably pull out my hair.
I'm glad [well, not really glad you lost a DVD] to hear
that others have this problem on occassion; at least I'm probably doing something right. It's just strange though, as I used these Memorex R/W's for several movies before this one and things worked perfectly. Then I get this silly 'Tinkerbell' title and have problems when I use the Maxells. BTW, DVDXCopy had no success with it either.
Will let you know how it goes with other movies. Meanwhile, I have no ideal what might be wrong, but I'm slowly learning more and more, and will find out what's going on.
And yes, those were the brand of DVD's I was talking about.
Thanks. I appreciate the response and info.
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rennogsd
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30. May 2004 @ 05:28 |
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Ok. Last night i experimented...these discs are 4x. generic =r's. I burnt them at 2.4x speed instead of my usual 4x and so far everyone has burnt successfully. Have you tried lowering the speeds?
True I am losing a bit of speed with that but I would rather do this than not have one that burns at all.
You guys are great and so is this forum. thanks for all your help. I will keep checking back for more posts.
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zraider
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30. May 2004 @ 18:17 |
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Okay, I'm outa' answers right now until I regroup on
this problem.
I tried burning another of my movies to the Maxells' and I get the same "No disc". Still works fine with the Memorex R/W's. And yes, I did notice that the Maxells were getting burned at 6x, so I lowered the speed to 2.4; same result, with a different movie than
the one with the 'app' on it. I've tried using Decrypt
to get it on the drive and Shrink to write the DVD. Same result.
Is it possible to get a batch of bad DVD's ??!!! I'm opening up the 3rd pack of the Maxells; that's 10 that
are shot ! Something is very evidently not right here.
I may buy a 1 or 2 different brands of DVD's locally, but I would bet the result's gonna' be the same.
I think there's something going on here that I'm missing. Surely there's no way 10 blank DVD's could be bad. But why do the Memorex's work perfectly ??
If anyone has ANY suggestions, ANY, I'm open to them.
If anyone can interpret this log [from Nero], this is the last failure attempting to write at 2.4x; by the way, I don't know that it matters, but I do have SCSI drives, as can be seen. Anyway, I'm going to copy the whole log to another location and totally wipe this one, then write a DVD with a Memorex DVD, then one with
one of the Maxells. Here's the log, sorry it's kinda' long....
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13:50:18 Robot error messages from:
====== *** NeroAPI, History File *** ======
1A20-0101-0030-1264-9680-5038
1A20-0101-0030-1264-9680-5038
1A20-0101-0030-1264-9680-5038
Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: File 'Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=4.60 (1021), size=45056 bytes, created 9/10/1999 6:06:00 AM
ahead WinASPI: File 'D:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\Wnaspi32.dll': Ver=2.0.1.59, size=160016 bytes, created 6/17/2003 9:25:04 AM
Nero API version: 6.0.0.28
Using interface version: 6.0.0.0
Installed in: D:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\
Application: ahead\Nero - Burning Rom
Recorder: <_NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A> Version: 1.07 - HA 0 TA 0 - 6.0.0.28
Adapter driver: <atapi> HA 0
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default (0) -> ATAPI, detected: ATAPI
=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
CdRomPeripheral : _NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A atapi Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : SONY CD-RW CRX175A1 atapi Port 0 ID 1 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : WDC WD800BB-00FJA0 atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : SEAGATE ST318432LW 0022 adpu320 Port 3 ID 0 DMA: Off
DiskPeripheral : SEAGATE ST318432LW 0022 adpu320 Port 3 ID 1 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : AXV CD/DVD-ROM 2.2a a347scsi Port 4 ID 0 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : Generic DVD-ROM 1.0 d346prt Port 5 ID 0 DMA: Off
=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
_NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A I: CDRom0
SONY CD-RW CRX175A1 H: CDRom1
AXV CD/DVD-ROM L: CDRom2
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AutoRun : 0
Excluded drive IDs:
CmdQueuing : 1
CmdNotification: 2
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
ShowDrvBufStat : 0
EraseSpeed : 0
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 1022MB (1047280kB)
Free physical memory: 645MB (660824kB)
Memory in use : 36 %
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Static Write Speed Table: 0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)
30.5.2004
NeroAPI
2:33:59 PM #1 Phase 111 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 244
DVD-Video files sorted
2:33:59 PM #2 Text 0 File Reader.cpp, Line 118
Reader running
2:33:59 PM #3 Text 0 File Writer.cpp, Line 124
Writer _NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A running
2:33:59 PM #4 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3882
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
2:33:59 PM #5 ISO9660GEN -11 File geniso.cpp, Line 3882
First writeable address = 0 (0x00000000)
2:33:59 PM #6 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3128
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media
2:33:59 PM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 237
Last possible write address on media: 2295103 (510:01.28)
Last address to be written: 2286127 (508:01.52)
2:33:59 PM #8 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 242
Write in overburning mode: FALSE
2:33:59 PM #9 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2043
Recorder: _NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A, Media type: DVD+R
2:33:59 PM #10 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 403
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
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2:33:59 PM #11 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 775
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 (CTransferItem)
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2286128 (2286128) = #2286128/508:1.53
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/required, no patch infos
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2286128 blocks [_NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A ]
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2:33:59 PM #12 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 944
Prepare recorder [_NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A ] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
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MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1:
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4681990144, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
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__Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_RecDep_|_CtrlAdr_
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x00 | 0x41
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
2286128 | lead-out | 1 | 0x00 | 0x41
2:33:59 PM #13 Phase 24 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 244
Caching of files started
2:33:59 PM #14 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4095
Cache writing successful.
2:33:59 PM #15 Phase 25 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 244
Caching of files completed
2:33:59 PM #16 Phase 36 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 244
Burn process started at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)
2:33:59 PM #17 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2167
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0
2:33:59 PM #18 SCSI -1066 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1170
SCSI Exec, HA 0, TA 0, LUN 0, buffer 0x0BAD7000
Status: 0x04 (0x01, SCSI_ERR)
HA-Status 0x00 (0x00, OK)
TA-Status 0x02 (0x01, SCSI_TASTATUS_CHKCOND)
Sense Key: 0x05 (KEY_ILLEGAL_REQUEST)
Sense Code: 0x24
Sense Qual: 0x00
CDB Data: 0xAD 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x08 0x04 0x00 0x00
Sense Data: 0x70 0x00 0x05 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x0A
0x00 0x00 0x00 0x00 0x24 0x00
2:33:59 PM #19 Text 0 File DVDPlusRW.cpp, Line 607
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes
2:56:52 PM #20 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 113
<_NEC DVD_RW ND-2500A > start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2286128 (22E230h), lenght 0 blocks
2:56:52 PM #21 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 229
all writers idle, stopping conversion
2:57:26 PM #22 Phase 37 File APIProgress.cpp, Line 244
Burn process completed successfully at 2.4x (3,324 KB/s)
Existing drivers:
File 'Drivers\ADPU160M.SYS': Ver=v3.60a (Lab01_N(johnstra).010529-2218), size=101888 bytes, created 8/18/2001 12:00:00 PM
File 'Drivers\ASPI32.SYS': Ver=4.60 (1021), size=25244 bytes, created 9/10/1999 6:06:00 AM
Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)
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