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SMC a bad choice for routers?
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Toiletman
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6. June 2004 @ 13:04 |
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Just wanted to know whether SMC is a bad choice for routers. Personally I have no experience whatsoever with routers, but I haven't gotten a single problem with my SMC router that wasn't setting based yet. And I've had it for around 6 months.
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Praetor
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6. June 2004 @ 18:33 |
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SMC isnt exactly 'bad' as a router however most people will reccomend a Linksys especially if you are going wireless. The three more common brands are: Linksys (and its affiliate NetGear), D-Link, SMC, Belkin, Acer etc
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Toiletman
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7. June 2004 @ 12:04 |
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What I mean is, can it affect my connection pingwise by using a SMC router? Ping difference of 30 or so matters a lot to those so called "l337" people out there. Also, would it be affecting my internet and download speed because right now, my speed tests on www.bandwidthplace.com (unsuscribed) don't even give me 1 MB.
Also, the fact that my router is as hot as hell and I never switch it off never helps...
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Praetor
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7. June 2004 @ 13:00 |
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1. I highly doubt you will be hitting 1MB/s anytime soon. Not consistently at least considering the only easily available such service anywhere remotely near to where you live is AT&T corpo ADSL 8Megabit. Which is quite expensive to say the least
2. Even if you buy a $5 router, its not going to add a noticeable amount of ping to your games.
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Toiletman
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8. June 2004 @ 17:50 |
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Finally, I conclude, I will complain and bitch at Rogers over the phone yet once AGAIN. Thanks for the answers Praetor.
P.S. Mind if you close this thread?
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8. June 2004 @ 18:24 |
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Praetor,
Not to nitpick (okay yes I am) but unless I'm mistaken there's no affilitation between Linksys and Netgear. Linksys is owned by Cisco and last I knew Netgear was owned by Bay. Or is Bay owned by Cisco as well? It's not exactly important, but I'd hate to see somebody buying one thinking it's the same as the other.
Or maybe I just misunderstood your statement.
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Praetor
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9. June 2004 @ 07:37 |
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Not to nitpick (okay yes I am) but unless I'm mistaken there's no affilitation between Linksys and Netgear
By all means nitpick -- it keeps us all in check. I thought NetGear was just the budget line of products for LinkSys -- much like ASROCK/ASUS. If you look at the router interfaces for the NetGear stuff and the LinkSys stuff there's a lot of similarity (same names, layout, everything). I could be wrong of course.
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9. June 2004 @ 07:57 |
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Interesting. After looking at the info on their website we're apparently both wrong. I was right that they were owned by Bay Networks, but apparently some time after Nortel bought Bay they were sold to unspecified (on that page at least) parties and are now an independent corporation.
http://investor.netgear.com/overview.cfm
Oh yeah, and I'd say SMC isn't really a great or poor company, but my own experience with their products (mostly NICs) has been pretty positive. They don't tend to be super fast, but they seem reliable and I'll take reliable with good speed over buggy and super fast any day. As Praetor said, it shouldn't greatly affect ping times either way.
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Praetor
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9. June 2004 @ 08:06 |
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Toiletman:
SMC's cable routers are excellent, their NICs which I have never used ... well you really have to mess up to mess up a NIC however their wireless routers leave a lot to be desired as far as performance and stability go
vurbal:
So at the end of the day Netgear and Linksys have no affiliation whatsoever?
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9. June 2004 @ 08:15 |
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Not as far as I can tell.
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Xian
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9. June 2004 @ 09:21 |
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One good thing is I haven't heard of any exploits for the SMC routers, unlike recent ones for Linksys and Netgear.
http://www.securityfocus.com/archive/1/365069
That link has the security announcment for the Netgear hole, a remote backdoor using a certain username and password. The fix for it a couple days later didn't really fix the problem, only changed the username and password.
http://www.internetnews.com/infra/article.php/3362321
The Linksys hole was just as bad. Even if the remote administration function is turned off, the router provides the administration Web page to ports 80 and 443 on the WAN. I am not sure if the firmware has been updated yet to plug that vulnerability or not.
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Xian
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9. June 2004 @ 09:33 |
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So at the end of the day Netgear and Linksys have no affiliation whatsoever?
No. Linksys was recently purchased by Cisco, Netgear was split off of Nortel back in early 2000 and is independant.
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Praetor
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9. June 2004 @ 18:06 |
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Well well for two unreleated product lines, they certainly share a very similar interface (damn near the same thing save for the color scheme if i recall correctly hehe).
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Toiletman
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9. June 2004 @ 18:23 |
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"well you really have to mess up to mess up a NIC"
I think what you really meant was if you use Rogers Cable you would automatically mess up a NIC ;)
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Praetor
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10. June 2004 @ 09:39 |
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Not at all because most people (myself included) have their roger's line connected to a router :P
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Toiletman
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12. June 2004 @ 05:56 |
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Sorry for my incompetence in understanding the rules. =P
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Praetor
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12. June 2004 @ 14:09 |
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Off topic is right (read the forum rules if you've forgotten). There is a PC Hardware forum for that purpose.
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blah99bah
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20. June 2004 @ 22:49 |
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One good thing is I haven't heard of any exploits for the SMC routers, unlike recent ones for Linksys and Netgear.
I guess you haven't been reading BugTraq or Full Disclosure (or haven't read it long enough). An SMC router exploit was reported well before the Linksys and Netgear ones.
http://www.securiteam.com/securitynews/5TP072KCUQ.html
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