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Whats special about metal azo? Verbatim vs. Ritek?
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alpha6164
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7. June 2004 @ 13:15 |
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I have used 50pk of memorex and on the DVD's that I've filled to the max, I usually have bothyness and pixelation, etc towards the last couple of minutes of the movies. I want to get quality DVD-R's. I hear people say good things about the Ridata. Many also comment on the Metal Azo dye used by Verbatim. Is it that much better than the organic dye in the Ritek? Is it worth the 2-3X price increase? Any other manufacturers that use metal azo?
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7. June 2004 @ 21:32 |
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i use verbs for machines that have a bit of trouble reading normal cd's /dvd's lasers pick up better off the darker suface
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7. June 2004 @ 22:39 |
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i use memorex and ritek and have no problems. You just need to shrink the movie a little bit more so you don't burn all the way to the edge of the disc.
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GatlinGun
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7. June 2004 @ 22:59 |
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I would give the company a call that your burner is made buy and ask them what media do they recommend. I was having the same problems. I use a TDK 880n writer/burner with TDK DVD-R 4x without any problems. Good luck!!
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64026402
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8. June 2004 @ 03:19 |
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Memorex have had some quality problems with their CMC manufactured media. They burn bad on the later sections of the disc. Some are worse, some are ok.
All of my Riteks burn to the end perfectly.
The Verbatims are more expensive because of quality not azo dye. You can get cheap discs with azo also.
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kangaro99
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8. June 2004 @ 17:31 |
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I have used riteks for a long time and they have never generated any problems like some of the other brands. They really are the most reliable that i have ever used and they are of a good quality. You need to be careful of some of the cheaper brands though cause they can wear out your laser.
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bloonight
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11. June 2004 @ 06:27 |
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I started about 2 months ago and was running into all kinds of problems with my media but after trying every combination I could I finally got it down pat. I don't even buy expensive media anymore. I use the crap stuff and I have tried it with four different burners (Pioneer, LG,Sony,Lite-on)and they all worked with thiese tips. By the way, you won't have any problems with rewritable DVD's cause they are very high quality for rewriting so they work great all the time if you can get them on sale. As for using cheap media, I found out that no matter which burner you are using you need to rip and burn with the same device. Using a seperate DVD player to rip and then burning with another device is just asking for problems as the firmware may not be exactly compatible and you get data drop out errors from player to burner. So rip with the same device and burn with the same device, same firmware for both jobs.
Next, try and us media that has very little writing or paint on top as this can cause the laser to flare when it is burning hence the second suggestion to take off the sides of your computer to let it get as cool as possible. Even low level lasers generate heat and the paint on top can gather the heat in spots and cause burnouts. Try to use clear tops or disks with very little paint and writing on them. This rule does not apply to expensive media like Verbatim etc but I cannot afford them at the rate I use them. I buy stacks of silver tops at $29.99 for 50 and lose maybe 4 or 5 in the whole pile but that is because of the next reason. You have to make sure the source DVD is spotless and as scratch free as possible. This s very important. Clean them and check for marks cause this causes data dropouts as well. I usually rent a movie just as it is coming out to avoid that and I always check the disk before I leave the store.
Next.....forget about labelling your back ups. I know it looks cool and professional but trust me...it creates heat dams when you play them and the backups start skipping and freezing and once they start that they don't stop and are coasters. Just use a very thin permanent marker to put the name on and decorate the case instead. This is great for rewritables cause sometimes you get sick of a movie and you can just write over it and then add the new name to the DVD top,scratch the old title out and away you go.
One more little tip to help.....use DVD Shrink and re-author and drop all the crap(subtitles,menus,previews etc.) out to avoid compressing too much. It's the movie you after in any case isn't it? Also, if the movie is really long split it into two disks using DVD Shrink so the movie is not compressed at all. It works for really long movies like Seven Sumaris and The Great Escape. Just use the splitting feature in Shrink and find a logical break in the movie to end the first part, back it up, burn it and then do the rest of the movie the same way. I know it can be a pain having to change a movie half way through but it's worth it to get a perfect working copy of a movie for your collection.
Doing everything the way I have described seems to work with either the TS video format or ISO format.
I have burned over 350 movies and they are all still working and look great.
I hope this helps and urge you to give it a try as I and about 10 people I know are burning this way and no complaints(except for scratched source disks) from anyone. Happy burning!!
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deadcat
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13. June 2004 @ 02:37 |
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You have to make sure the source DVD is spotless and as scratch free as possible. This s very important. Clean them and check for marks cause this causes data dropouts as well. I usually rent a movie just as it is coming out to avoid that and I always check the disk before I leave the store.
1-This isnt as important as you may think, as shrink/decrypter/recode etc read discs bit for bit they will either read it correctly or not at all.
2-Piracy and talk of such isnt tolerated here
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bloonight
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13. June 2004 @ 06:16 |
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Please accept my apology re "Piracy"
I keep forgetting because in Canada it is not illegal to download music or make backups of rented DVD's.I will be more careful in the future.
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mackdl
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13. June 2004 @ 21:29 |
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Bloonight,
I also live in Canada. I think you are very misinformed. Yes, you are allowed to download music files (for now). NO, you are not allowed to make backups of rented dvd's. THAT IS PIRACY, and it is ILLEGAL. You can, however, make backup's of your own personal digital media, that you own, for your own use. Abuse will get our laws changed.
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14. June 2004 @ 20:28 |
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As for using cheap media, I found out that no matter which burner you are using you need to rip and burn with the same device. Using a seperate DVD player to rip and then burning with another device is just asking for problems as the firmware may not be exactly compatible and you get data drop out errors from player to burner. So rip with the same device and burn with the same device, same firmware for both jobs.
This isn't true. If you aren't getting a perfect copy, either the original is damaged or something isn't right on your computer. Even if you don't get a perfect copy, your burner doesn't need to be compatible (not sure what you meant by that) with the drive you use to rip. It writes what the burning software tells it to. If it doesn't, there's a problem with either the burner or the software (or your OS).
Regardless of what your ripping/burning process is, cheap media can still cause problems due to poor construction. Typically this manifests itself in poor dye distribution on the outside edge of the disc. If you have microscopic areas of the disc with no dye it doesn't matter how you rip or burn. No data is going to be there so it's not going to play properly.
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