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Powerful Wii 2 coming at E3, Wii to sell for $150 starting next month

article published on 14 April, 2011

According to multiple sources, Nintendo is planning to unveil the Wii 2 at the upcoming E3 event in June, while at the same time slashing the price of the Wii to $150 beginning May 15th. The sources say the new Wii will boast more powerful specs than the PlayStation 3 and a newly redesigned controller will have a built-in HD screen. Game publishers have already been alerted to the ... [ read the full article ]

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brockie
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14. April 2011 @ 19:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
would be worried if it wasn't more powerful than 5 year old consoles.
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14. April 2011 @ 19:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by brockie:
would be worried if it wasn't more powerful than 5 year old consoles.
True, I love my Wii, but the graphics are very bad on most games. Most likely they will finally implement 1080i/p (finally) and an HDMI port...being outdated in a few months by the PS4 and/or the Xbox 720...

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This is something I am truly excited for. It's about due. Even with interest decreasing, it still outsold both next-gen consoles, but I predict that the Wii-2 will continue to keep Nintendo on top. I was disappointed with the Wii, but came to accept that it had its place in my household. I will definitely be buying the Wii-2 on release date.

Turned out to be a good strategy. Make 2 five year consoles to compete against Sony's 10-year console.
Originally posted by DSWarrior:
True, I love my Wii, but the graphics are very bad on most games. Most likely they will finally implement 1080i/p (finally) and an HDMI port...being outdated in a few months by the PS4 and/or the Xbox 720...
I highly doubt the PS4 will come shortly after the Wii-2. I've heard rumors, but they've been debunked. Sony needs to make money. They've lost money for 4 years. A 10 year console would give them some profit.

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I am interested to see what Nintendo has up their sleeve. The lack of good titles from 3rd party developers and weak online play hurt the Wii but some of the "Exclusives" are pretty good. Despite the lower graphics I think the Wii is a good and reliable system and has to be given credit to starting the whole motion game revolution and making it mainstream.

If they can make it compatible with Wii v.1 games I will definitely get this system.

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Add a HDD, Blu-ray player, Offer the full catalog of NES-SNES-N64 games for download from the classic channel, Reliable online gaming network, 1080i/p HD resolution with an HDMI, BC with Wii 1 and Game cube games keep it priced ridiculously competitive like the last gen model and I'll be there on launch day.


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wii = for kids just like the DSI. We will see with the wii2. Nintendo is famous for over-hype and under-delivering ...its been that way for at least 20 years.

There was a time where anything with that nintendo stamp on it would sell without question ...that time has passed a decade ago.

I would suspect it will be intel ATOM or tegra2 based ... being nintendo doesn't have the cash on hand to develop a new use for a cell.

If it has stellar games (you need more than Zelda and SMB to get me to buy it) and will play matroska video ... ill buy it just for the movie capability.
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Wow a HD screen in the controller? must be a big controller to have a 1280x720p screen on it.
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I don't think MS or Sony are any where ready to release another console. MS has said they regretted dumping the original Xbox so early and will not do it to the 360. Sony has put some of the newest and best hardware in the PS3 when they released it so they would not have to make a newer console so fast. I really do like this move who wants to buy a new consoles every 5 or so years?
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Originally posted by trainmstr:
wii = for kids just like the DSI. We will see with the wii2. Nintendo is famous for over-hype and under-delivering ...its been that way for at least 20 years.

There was a time where anything with that nintendo stamp on it would sell without question ...that time has passed a decade ago.

I would suspect it will be intel ATOM or tegra2 based ... being nintendo doesn't have the cash on hand to develop a new use for a cell.

If it has stellar games (you need more than Zelda and SMB to get me to buy it) and will play matroska video ... ill buy it just for the movie capability.
what are you talking about. nintendo has alot of cash , have you seen their sales , comon where have you been for the past five years

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It makes sense...their current console is just a hair faster than the PS2...so their next console should be just a hair faster than a PS3.

That whole "HD screen in the controller" bit makes me think that they are going to do something even dumber than the WiiMote...a touchscreen controller for a home system...a bit like a DS where the bottom screen is your controller and the top screen is your TV. We will have to see...but I suspect that the Wii 2 will be 100% focused on the "casual" market.

As for bluray, maybe Nintendo has seen the light...I remember one of their bosses said that Nintendo users do not want HD or bluray...but if they are including HD screens in the controllers, they must be ignoring that iddiot.

BTW...the Wii outsold "all current generation consoles"...but it isn't a "current generation console", so that isn't really a fair fight. You might as well say that the Wii outsold alienware gaming laptops...it is a whole different game. Really, the Wii only sold about 1/2 as many units as the PS2...and the PS2 is the closest system in terms of performance and features.


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I'm excited for this. I'm hoping for perfect Gamecube and Wii 1 compatibility with native HD rendering, meaning no stretching or blowing up a low-res image. Preferrably with a fixed aspect-ratio.

Give me that and you have my money, Nintendo. I can do the rest through Homebrew. :P

Originally posted by KillerBug:
It makes sense...their current console is just a hair faster than the PS2...

If by "A hair faster than" you mean "Twice as fast as", then you are correct.
Check the respective pages on Wikipedia if you don't believe me: CPU speed is more than twice the clock of the PS2.

A hair faster than the Xbox1 would be a fair bit of conjecture, but the PS2 was the weakest of the previous gen in terms of power.

Originally posted by KillerBug:
That whole "HD screen in the controller" bit makes me think that they are going to do something even dumber than the WiiMote...a touchscreen controller for a home system...a bit like a DS where the bottom screen is your controller and the top screen is your TV. We will have to see...

I agree that it could get iffy, and having an HD screen in a controller would probably just serve to jack up prices with little benefit.
But, yeah, we'll have to see.
What, specifically about the Wiimote was dumb? I found it to be rather versatile, they gave you a lot of options.

Originally posted by KillerBug:
but I suspect that the Wii 2 will be 100% focused on the "casual" market.

If you also suspect that Nintendo have lost their minds, fair enough, but keep in mind that not even the iPhone is "100%" casual.

Originally posted by KillerBug:
As for bluray, maybe Nintendo has seen the light...I remember one of their bosses said that Nintendo users do not want HD or bluray...but if they are including HD screens in the controllers, they must be ignoring that iddiot.

I liken that to Sony's "Gamers don't want Rumble" comment from back when the PS3 was launching: just covering their asses.
We'll see, though.

Originally posted by KillerBug:
BTW...the Wii outsold "all current generation consoles"...but it isn't a "current generation console", so that isn't really a fair fight.

Except it is, by definition.

Originally posted by KillerBug:
You might as well say that the Wii outsold alienware gaming laptops...it is a whole different game.

I think there would be a bit more crossover between PS3/360 users and Wii than specifically one specialized brand of computer, even if you only consider the difference in price.

Originally posted by KillerBug:
Really, the Wii only sold about 1/2 as many units as the PS2...

Even with no numbers to back up your claim I say fair enough: even if you are right the PS2's been on the market for more than a decade while the Wii has been out for less than half that long.

Originally posted by KillerBug:
and the PS2 is the closest system in terms of performance and features.

See first quote.

I have to respect how outspoken you are, Killerbug, even if it is your posterior that you're speaking from.


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Originally posted by KillerBug:
BTW...the Wii outsold "all current generation consoles"...but it isn't a "current generation console", so that isn't really a fair fight. You might as well say that the Wii outsold alienware gaming laptops...it is a whole different game.
In some contexts you are correct. But not comparing specs, the big picture is that all three focus on consoles, and they are all in the arena at the same time. Alienware is not in the same arena. MS and Sony may have come out with AK-47's and Nintendo with an air gun, but they all fought for the same food. Regardless of demographic, there were people on the fence with the PS3 due to price. Hardcore, casual or family gamers stereotypes aside, it's the same fight for customers. The Wii paced itself and became the healthier of the 3 consoles.
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These specs made me cry with joy.
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
BTW...the Wii outsold "all current generation consoles"...but it isn't a "current generation console", so that isn't really a fair fight.

Wouldn't that make the Wii more impressive?
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That whole "HD screen in the controller" bit makes me think that they are going to do something even dumber than the WiiMote...
Man when you are off base you are way off! The WiiMote is what put them on top it wasn't GPU power like PS3 or Xbox!

I think this is the right move for Nintendo and it will keep them on top most likely.
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Any word on GC compat with wii2?
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I'll likely get one. Nintendo always impresses me. I wondered how it would fair competing with M$, and Sony's consoles. They're always family oriented, meaning their games are fit for children. My brother can hardly play his PS3 because most of the games are inappropriate for his children. Not saying those games don't have their place ;) I happen to like games that are inappropriate for children xD Hopefully the Wii 2 will bring back Diddy Kong racing. I realize that "Rare" Holds the rights ;)



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Clockspeed dosent matter for shit ddue, it's how much data it actually processos in each clock, so it's not cut and paste like yuo amke it seem, sounds like Apple and nintendo are going to work together, io could totally see using an iPhone or iPod Touch as a controller, they both have bluetooth, and i truely do not think they will release it this year, they still ahve Skyward Sword coming out this year, so Wii 2 won';t be here until AT LEAST 2012
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if Nintendo impress's you, you would prob ably be iompressed by a rock
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Originally posted by marcusj0015:
if Nintendo impress's you, you would prob ably be iompressed by a rock
Say what you want but Nintendo has always been an innovater in the video game world. They are the company that all other video game companies copy off of.

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ddue yuo amke io ahve won';t impress's prob ably iompressed
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Actually, some rocks do impress me :p

Nintendo always seems to have something up their sleeves. I'm sure this time will be no different.



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Originally posted by omegaman7:
Actually, some rocks do impress me :p

Nintendo always seems to have something up their sleeves. I'm sure this time will be no different.
I'm with you Oman7, same here! :)
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An expansive, open world Hyrule and Mushroom Kingdom in full HD is all I can hope for in terms of software. Those franchises defined my childhood gaming experience. On the hardware side, I hope that Nintendo learns from the hardware mistakes of the 360, and PS3 for that matter...COOLING. MAKE THE CONSOLE THAT DOESN'T DOUBLE AS A GEORGE FOREMAN GRILL!!!

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LOL! People do need to keep placement in mind though. Storing/running the console in an enclosed area barely large enough for it, is NOT a good idea LOL! I've seen people run their PS3's this way. Not good...

Agreed though. The first Generation Wii, doesn't run very hot. I hope the next Wii is same/similar.



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The PS2 is still being sold new...does that mean that is is considered, "A current generation console"? Maybe you consider "current generation" to simply be the last console made by a given company...but then the Intellivision would be a "current generation console" from Mattel.

Yeah...the Wii is a lot faster in terms of clock speed than the PS2...but the games are of the same visual quality (at least the upper-end games are; low-end Wii games are of SNES quality). Considering that most devs have either stopped Wii development or admitted that they cannot deliver anything close to the 360/PS3 experience with the console, I would say that there isn't much going unused in their fight to match the old PS2. There is also no hard drive (even the PS2 had this as an option).

I defend my hatred of the WiiMote...it took them years to release the second half of the controller so it actually sorta worked, and there is still enough delay to say, "Wow, this sucks" before the thing responds. As a test of your psychic powers, it is great...as a game controller it is junk. The only potentially good use I have ever found for it was sword/lightsaber fighting...and it is too slow for those anyway. Nintendo wouldn't be including a DS2 knock-off with certain games if the WiiMote was worth a crap.

Originally posted by bobiroc:
Originally posted by marcusj0015:
if Nintendo impress's you, you would prob ably be iompressed by a rock
Say what you want but Nintendo has always been an innovater in the video game world. They are the company that all other video game companies copy off of.
I assume you are referring to the Move and the Kinect...well, they are not the same. Similar idea, but Nintendo didn't invent it...Star Trek did. Nintendo just released a half-working version of it. I don't like the Move or the Kinect...but they are both able to read 3D movement, and neither has the delay of a WiiMote. Better still, they are both OPTIONAL...meaning that the consoles are not just for casual gamers. Sure, they do a lot of invention...but most of their inventions are crap...anyone remember the powerglove? How about the Virtual Boy? I own one of each (I got them very cheap at garage sales)...I keep them around to remind myself that Nintendo will push any product to the customer, even if they know it is total garbage.


 
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