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RonR
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14. June 2004 @ 16:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
OK, I'm starting to get a pile of good DVDs, so many that I'm forgetting what's on which.

I understand that stick-on paper lables are NOT a good idea for these discs. So far, I've used a felt pen to mark a disc number on the hub of some discs, and this seems to work ok. What I'd like to hear about is, have any of you here used the felt pens on the backs of the discs? I lknow there are "special" pens for CDs -- are they needed or does any soft tip felt pen work?



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14. June 2004 @ 17:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hiya,

Wise move staying away from the sticky labels. I, and many others here, use Sharpie markers to label our discs with no ill effect. Much of the "markers are bad" theory stemmed from using them on CDs which are made with the reflective layer lying on top unprotected and some of the more acidic inks supposedly degraded the reflective layer which in turn caused problems.

DVDs on the other hand have two layers of coatings over the reflective layer so markers won't have any effect on them. Here's a very informative link on the subject of DVD construction:

http://www.videointerchange.com/dvd.htm#DVD

Enjoy :)




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RonR
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14. June 2004 @ 17:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   

Thanks for the link and the help.

Felt tip pens seem worth a try.




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14. June 2004 @ 22:25 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Go with the pens......

Making backups of movies you own - should really be no frills - cannot see the point of backing up a movie you own, and putting on all the bells and whistles - after all it is just a backup - the most important thing is to be able to read the data/play it and not how it looks - labels can cause bad reads....just my opinion - each to their own I suppose......

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14. June 2004 @ 23:57 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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cannot see the point of backing up a movie you own, and putting on all the bells and whistles
Me neither.



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Yordan
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15. June 2004 @ 04:09 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I agree with the above but still like my back ups to be recognized straight away and they all have sticky lables on them with no ill effect so far. Fingers crossed.
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15. June 2004 @ 10:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Yes, each to their own preferances....

Lots of people have had good success with labels on the dvd's, but more have had bad experiences.....

Best way is to make sure you have a good solid burning method that works and is fully tested with the type of media you are using, then experiment with labels to see if they take ok - that way if it doesn't - you know it's the labels that is screwing the balance up..............

...............PIO is no go, DMA all the way...............
Beware of the Pixies - they move in over night and turn your life upside down


Frozilla
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15. June 2004 @ 11:07 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Stick with the good ole sharpie. Cheaper thn ;labels too.
skenzer
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15. June 2004 @ 11:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Cost wise, a sharpie is great. Looks wise, you can't hardly beat a label or even printable DVD media. Too much fuss is made of labels on DVD's. Those that state they will ahsoutely RUIN your dvd and player are wrong! (unless of course you are a retard and use the wrong kind of label, bad quality labels or don't know how to stick a label on a disc to begin with....like eyeballing it.)
I've used labels on my dvd's for a LONG time with perfect results. Even DVD's that I play over and over again have not failed me. Check out Neato.com and ask them what research has gone into their labels and how they may effect DVD and CD media...interesting what they have to say.
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15. June 2004 @ 13:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Those that state they will ahsoutely RUIN your dvd and player are wrong! (unless of course you are a retard and use the wrong kind of label, bad quality labels or don't know how to stick a label on a disc to begin with....like eyeballing it.)
Maybe you're the retard for thinking just because it works for you it will work for everyone.



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15. June 2004 @ 14:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I use pens, cheap and easy :)

skenzer
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15. June 2004 @ 14:52 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nephilim,
First, your response pertty much shows your ignorance. Obviously I've touch a nerve because you are one of the people that buy into the "bad label" thing. To each their own. Use your marker or whatever it is you use and be happy. If you noticed in my original message I made no reference to people being "retards" because they use other marking tools....just to the people that don't know how or what kind of labels to use. Are you one of those people?
skenzer
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15. June 2004 @ 14:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
RyanZ06
Careful with the pens my friend. Too much pressure applied to the surface of the DVD or CD can cause data damage.....I've seen it before.
SadJoker
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15. June 2004 @ 14:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I personally use a Laundry marker, those felt tip markers made for marking socks, tshirts etc. Ink has yet to 'eat' thru to the data side of the disc, the ink hasnt smeared yet and if I happen to screw up the name of the movie or whatever I can always wipe it off and fix it ;)
skenzer
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15. June 2004 @ 15:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Aren't those laundry markers made of wax?
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15. June 2004 @ 15:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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First, your response pertty much shows your ignorance.
Really? And you don't think that because labels work for you the many, many people who solved their playback probelms by ditching labels are dreaming it up? Answer me that.

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Careful with the pens my friend. Too much pressure applied to the surface of the DVD or CD can cause data damage.....I've seen it before.
How exactly can a felt tip marker manage to get through a polymer layer and then a laquer layer to damage the reflective layer on a DVD? CDs and DVDs are made differently.



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SadJoker
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15. June 2004 @ 16:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nope not that Ive seen or can tell. why would a marker be made outta wax? wouldnt the wax fall off in the washer and / or wind up melting in your dyer? {chuckles}

Nephilim , I think he's referring to ballpoint pens maybe? if someone is dense enuff to be writing on their DVD/CD with a ballpoint pen well thats on them. I agree w/ you on how in the world can a felttip marker damage a DVD/CD? there's no hard tip/point on it to carve thru to the otherside!
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15. June 2004 @ 17:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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Nephilim , I think he's referring to ballpoint pens maybe?
Good Lord! Never heard of that before :)



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skenzer
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15. June 2004 @ 20:24 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Nephilim
The only two purposes I can tell so far that you serve to this group is
A) being an idiot and causing fights with everybody.
B) showing us how little you know.

So if that's your sole purpose of being here...great job!
baabaa
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15. June 2004 @ 22:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Now Now skenzer, no need to continue with this........

I am not taking sides, but this is NOT the place for having an argument, and I think posting your recent comments is totally unsubstantiated...............

Nephilim is a valued member - as you can see by his status, and contrary to your belief his contributions to newbies and other members alike have been most commendable.

You both have expressed AN OPINION, as we have a right to free speech, this should not be construed into the right to bitch about one another, and who is right and wrong...........

Nephilim has his opinion and you have yours, you have had great success with labels - Excellent, I am well pleased for you...........if you do a search you will find that many more have not had success........period.......

But it does not mean it will work for everyone, every PC setup is different, and with sooooooooo many shite types of media going around - adding layers to them can only make them worse - if they are bad to begin with........

Keep the peace chaps........................

...............PIO is no go, DMA all the way...............
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colw
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16. June 2004 @ 00:42 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Hang in there Nep.

Another obvious 'some mothers do have them' candidate on the forum - 'they do not know what they do not know'.

Your advice and assistance has been greatly appreciated by the greater majority of members and 'newbies'
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16. June 2004 @ 02:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Ignore it Neph, When I step in Ka-Ka, I just wipe it off my shoe. I don't get mad at it, or even try to intelligently converse with it, after all it's just s--t.


GO VOLS !

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jmc318
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16. June 2004 @ 04:34 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am wondering how some of the printers work for labeling discs.

The reason I would like to use something more than the sharpie I am using now is because of my 4 year old. I am backing up his DVDs so he can watch his movies either upstairs or downstairs. With pictures on the discs he can choose what he wants. With words, he needs to ask me.

Any advise on printers?
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16. June 2004 @ 12:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
baabaa
I appreciate your comments and agree with them, at least most of them.
The rest of the "so called" Nephilim backers need to realize how hypocritical their very own statements are and move on.
When do i get to be the bad guy here when I'm called ka-ka? That is so much better then referring to somebody who is incapable of placing a label on a cd properly a retard?
You guys can keep your forum and enjoy the taste of Nephilim's ass

hmmmmm, nice try guys, but you're guilty as charged.
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16. June 2004 @ 12:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Numero uno- I don't kiss anybody's ass! But I've been known to kick a few. My statement is that of an impartial observer, Nephilium has offered a lot of valuable information and guidance to people who need assistance, including moi. For every one success story dealing with labels on discs, I've heard ten disasters. Pretty crappy odds I'd say. Your comments are nothing but criticism and innuendo. If by making the obvious choice here, makes me a backer, so be it. On the other hand, if the shoe fits.....


GO VOLS !
 
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