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Smartphone rootkit software company CarrierIQ receives letter from US Senator

article published on 1 December, 2011

Over the last two weeks, the phone-tracking firm Carrier IQ has seen its popularity explode, but not in a good way. The company has been accused of being a rootkit/keylogger pre-installed on over 100 million Android, iOS, BlackBerry and Nokia devices around the world. The software quietly watches and logs all keystrokes entered into the device, including texts. It also monitors location, ... [ read the full article ]

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Tristan_2
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1. December 2011 @ 15:36 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Carrier IQ Betrayed The Law!
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2. December 2011 @ 00:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
String 'em up!


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I work at a business that is government regulated. What I have read this company has gone far and above what it needed to do with its software. WOW. Craps going to hit the fan. You know I have always been told this was one of the reasons that we all had to switch/upgrade our phones a few years ago so "Big Brother" could watch over and monitor us. Its finally coming out that it is possible and people are trying to cover their collective butts.
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George Orwell, 1984.
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Henny Penny, Chicken Little THE SKY'S FALLING!

It doesn't take much to get stupid people worried.
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Well, time to root...

Doesnt expecting the unexpected make the unexpected expected and therefore mean youre expecting the expected which was the unexpected until you expected it?
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Originally posted by WierdName:
Well, time to root...
That time came long ago.


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my question is, why did HTC (and other cell providers) feel the need to ADD CarrierIQ to their phones? what service(s) does it actually offer?

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Originally posted by darkflux:
my question is, why did HTC (and other cell providers) feel the need to ADD CarrierIQ to their phones? what service(s) does it actually offer?
My question is why people seem to dig up year+ old threads semi-frequently. Regardless, such usage data is incredibly valuable and goes for a LOT. Not only do the providers get a better look at the usage of the phones on their network but advertisers and marketers can target the people that actually are likely to purchase the goods/services they want to sell. They can therefore make a far greater return on investment by that targeting rather than just shotgunning out spam and hoping some stuff sticks.

EDIT- Case in point: you ever get a random text ad to your phone for something you would actually be interested in if you weren't just spammed?

Doesnt expecting the unexpected make the unexpected expected and therefore mean youre expecting the expected which was the unexpected until you expected it?
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Originally posted by WierdName:
Originally posted by darkflux:
my question is, why did HTC (and other cell providers) feel the need to ADD CarrierIQ to their phones? what service(s) does it actually offer?
My question is why people seem to dig up year+ old threads semi-frequently. Regardless, such usage data is incredibly valuable and goes for a LOT. Not only do the providers get a better look at the usage of the phones on their network but advertisers and marketers can target the people that actually are likely to purchase the goods/services they want to sell. They can therefore make a far greater return on investment by that targeting rather than just shotgunning out spam and hoping some stuff sticks.

EDIT- Case in point: you ever get a random text ad to your phone for something you would actually be interested in if you weren't just spammed?
yes, i understand how important that info is to (some) people, but 1. it is MY info, and they need MY permission to have it, and 2. i've already PAID them for the phone, so they are already making money off of me! and for $500 a phone, they should be glad people can actually afford them, without stealing their data without asking...
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Originally posted by darkflux:
yes, i understand how important that info is to (some) people, but 1. it is MY info, and they need MY permission to have it, and 2. i've already PAID them for the phone, so they are already making money off of me! and for $500 a phone, they should be glad people can actually afford them, without stealing their data without asking...
What's your point? You're assuming ethics have anything to do with this...

Doesnt expecting the unexpected make the unexpected expected and therefore mean youre expecting the expected which was the unexpected until you expected it?
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Originally posted by WierdName:
Originally posted by darkflux:
yes, i understand how important that info is to (some) people, but 1. it is MY info, and they need MY permission to have it, and 2. i've already PAID them for the phone, so they are already making money off of me! and for $500 a phone, they should be glad people can actually afford them, without stealing their data without asking...
What's your point? You're assuming ethics have anything to do with this...
THAT is my point: that ethics DIDN'T enter into the equation!

not that an "unethical corporation" is a new thing, but that doesn't mean we should let them take and use our personal info without them telling us about it at LEAST...
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Originally posted by darkflux:
THAT is my point: that ethics DIDN'T enter into the equation!

not that an "unethical corporation" is a new thing, but that doesn't mean we should let them take and use our personal info without them telling us about it at LEAST...
No argument there.

Doesnt expecting the unexpected make the unexpected expected and therefore mean youre expecting the expected which was the unexpected until you expected it?
"Opinions are immunities to being told were wrong." - Relient K
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