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Google in breach of EU privacy laws, commissioner says

article published on 2 March, 2012

Google's new privacy policy gets attention in Europe. The European Commissioner for Justice, Fundamental Rights and Citizenship, Viviane Reding, said on Thursday that data protection institutions within the European Union have found Google's new privacy policy in breach of European laws. Her comments come after the French data protection group, CNIL, questioned the legality of the new ... [ read the full article ]

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2. March 2012 @ 11:21 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thus the tale of Kiel & his endeavor as the center link in the human cent-ipad from one of the South Park episodes.

It hasn't been 'just' me arguing against our quaker mentalities & elitist mind frames of how humanity is "so much better than" & how "we should be above" social mal conformists & the so grossly depraved that we have over constructed our societies into such grand complexity that we have made it literally easy for these ass junkies to slip out the cages that they need to be in (or the gas chamber that should have disposed of them in the first place) & put them right back into the very society their egocentric aptitude felt could reform. Contradicting the very idea of snuffing one life in order to save many.

No, this doesn't immediately reflect Google's inability to 'fine print' every subtle nuance of every legalese there could be imagined on the planet in every possible dialect... I would refer you back to George Carlin narrowing down the 10 commandments into 3 for a quick possible idea of what Google was trying to do.

I'm thinking on one hand, yeah, Google stepped in it. On the other, Viviane needs to get some new batteries for the vibrator & stop trying to justify her paycheck on this one in the public arena. It's not like Google DIDN'T already have all the legalese printed up before on another sheet of paper.

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2. March 2012 @ 11:50 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
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She also cited research that showed more than 70 percent of users either rarely, or never, read terms and conditions of web services before they sign up, and therefore have no idea what will be done with personal data they store with such services.
Who's fault is that? Instead of using the excuse that Google's changes are illegal because no one reads TOSs (a ridiculous claim in itself), they should rather require companies' TOSs to meet certain standards. For example, only being three pages, or not being completely in legal jargon....which is still a ridiculous mess of unnecessary company censorship, but better than claiming that companies are not allowed to change their own TOS!

If a consumer does not read the TOS before agreeing, regardless of how long it is, that doesn't change the fact that they agree. And in Google's defense, they have plastered the fact that their privacy policy is changing everywhere, in red text. If you decide not to read it and still use Google, there is no excuse.

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2. March 2012 @ 11:58 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Notcow:
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She also cited research that showed more than 70 percent of users either rarely, or never, read terms and conditions of web services before they sign up, and therefore have no idea what will be done with personal data they store with such services.
Who's fault is that? Instead of using the excuse that Google's changes are illegal because no one reads TOSs (a ridiculous claim in itself), they should rather require companies' TOSs to meet certain standards. For example, only being three pages, or not being completely in legal jargon....which is still a ridiculous mess of unnecessary company censorship, but better than claiming that companies are not allowed to change their own TOS!

If a consumer does not read the TOS before agreeing, regardless of how long it is, that doesn't change the fact that they agree. And in Google's defense, they have plastered the fact that their privacy policy is changing everywhere, in red text. If you decide not to read it and still use Google, there is no excuse.
She didn't say Google's changes were illegal because people didn't read the TOS, she was explaining why the regulations are important, because people don;t read the TOS. So, ironically, both of you are agreed :P
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2. March 2012 @ 12:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Dela:
Originally posted by Notcow:
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She also cited research that showed more than 70 percent of users either rarely, or never, read terms and conditions of web services before they sign up, and therefore have no idea what will be done with personal data they store with such services.
Who's fault is that? Instead of using the excuse that Google's changes are illegal because no one reads TOSs (a ridiculous claim in itself), they should rather require companies' TOSs to meet certain standards. For example, only being three pages, or not being completely in legal jargon....which is still a ridiculous mess of unnecessary company censorship, but better than claiming that companies are not allowed to change their own TOS!

If a consumer does not read the TOS before agreeing, regardless of how long it is, that doesn't change the fact that they agree. And in Google's defense, they have plastered the fact that their privacy policy is changing everywhere, in red text. If you decide not to read it and still use Google, there is no excuse.
She didn't say Google's changes were illegal because people didn't read the TOS, she was explaining why the regulations are important, because people don;t read the TOS. So, ironically, both of you are agreed :P
Oh, haha...in that case, go Reding!
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