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Wal-Mart unveils its Ultraviolet 'disc-to-digital' initiative

article published on 13 March, 2012

Wal-Mart has launched its UltraViolet "disc-to-digital" initiative today, giving disc owners a chance to have access to a digital copy of their movie, for a nominal price. The program will go live on April 16th at 3500 Wal-mart stores and users can pay $2 for an SD digital copy of a DVD or $5 to get an HD copy. If you bring in Blu-rays, you can get an HD digital copy for $2. Says Wal-Mart: ... [ read the full article ]

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ronhondo
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13. March 2012 @ 16:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Anyone can easily make a digital copy of the their DVD with free software. This is a dumb stupid flop !!! Change the setting in DVD Shrink to create a single VOB file and use Freemake Video Converter to create any file you want. Transfer it to any piece of hardware you want. I guess they think people are idiots ?
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TiptonP
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13. March 2012 @ 17:40 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by ronhondo:
Anyone can easily make a digital copy of the their DVD with free software. This is a dumb stupid flop !!! Change the setting in DVD Shrink to create a single VOB file and use Freemake Video Converter to create any file you want. Transfer it to any piece of hardware you want. I guess they think people are idiots ?
How many people do you think know what a VOB file is? How many people that shop at Walmart know how to use Freemake? I like what they are doing here. It gives the average or below average user the ability to stream their movies without having to worry about the legality of it. So they charge a fee, if it is easy, fast, convenient, and provides piece of mine...then it is worth it.
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13. March 2012 @ 17:44 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by TiptonP:
Originally posted by ronhondo:
Anyone can easily make a digital copy of the their DVD with free software. This is a dumb stupid flop !!! Change the setting in DVD Shrink to create a single VOB file and use Freemake Video Converter to create any file you want. Transfer it to any piece of hardware you want. I guess they think people are idiots ?
How many people do you think know what a VOB file is? How many people that shop at Walmart know how to use Freemake? I like what they are doing here. It gives the average or below average user the ability to stream their movies without having to worry about the legality of it. So they charge a fee, if it is easy, fast, convenient, and provides piece of mine...then it is worth it.
Good .. Let them waste their money !
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13. March 2012 @ 17:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
As it stands, it seems reasonable...
I'm just not sure why this couldn't be done with a web app.

Oh, Im sorry... Did the middle of my sentence interrupt the beginning of yours?
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13. March 2012 @ 18:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
people shouldn't buy the dvd in the first place if they want digital copies, should of bought it in the first place!!!

I wonder if this for old dvds as well since that's understandable... speaking of old movies, this not going to work since some movies are 5.00 to 8.00 already and trading it in for digital copies is just a rip off... If this was video games I would do this since I like to keep the games kept safe on the hard drive.


Disc, stream or download

Purchasing UltraViolet content gives you flexibility to watch the way you want :

Stream to any internet-connected device, including cable/satellite set-top boxes
Download for offline viewing, including full HD copies
Get a disc included even when you buy online - either download or streaming.

found this on ultraviolet site, so what's the point of trading it in if you going to buy movies on their site and they send us the disc as well?





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13. March 2012 @ 19:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
How many times I should watch a Movie in a diff devices ?
That is why I have a Home Theater and 100's of Movies in my collection that I have no time to watch them yet !
If I am so desperate to convert 1 single movie to wherever....I just do it myself. Thx.

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13. March 2012 @ 21:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Not even Jesus was capable of making EVERYBODY happy!


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13. March 2012 @ 21:28 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Judging by the comments here I'm not sure anyone actually read the article.

Wal-Mart is offering you a chance to own a LEGAL digital license for movies you currently own in DVD disc form for $2 and you still get to keep the disc. You can then stream your movies without needing to lug around discs.

How are there so many complaints? This is a GREAT idea (albeit a bit overpriced, $1 would be preferable) and I plan to use it myself into the future. Also, I can sell the physical discs afterwards to people who prefer discs to streaming for $3 (or more) and make a profit while keeping your full collection.

Jeffrey_P
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13. March 2012 @ 21:54 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
"Says Wal-Mart: The new program "allows customers to reconnect with the movies they already own on a variety of new devices, while preserving the investments they've already made in disc purchases."

Investment means you bought the DVD, Blu-Ray as a physical optical disk. Nothing about keeping your disk. That doesn't make sense.

What does stamped mean?

It's a shitty idea.

Jeff
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13. March 2012 @ 21:59 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:
"Says Wal-Mart: The new program "allows customers to reconnect with the movies they already own on a variety of new devices, while preserving the investments they've already made in disc purchases."

Investment means you bought the DVD, Blu-Ray as a physical optical disk. Nothing about keeping your disk. That doesn't make sense.
You get to keep your disc and you get a digital license for a small price (As I said before, should be smaller but I digress). The "stamp" is the UPC code goes into a database and cannot be used again.


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13. March 2012 @ 22:00 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by DVDBack23:
Judging by the comments here I'm not sure anyone actually read the article.

Wal-Mart is offering you a chance to own a LEGAL digital license for movies you currently own in DVD disc form for $2 and you still get to keep the disc. You can then stream your movies without needing to lug around discs.

How are there so many complaints? This is a GREAT idea (albeit a bit overpriced, $1 would be preferable) and I plan to use it myself into the future. Also, I can sell the physical discs afterwards to people who prefer discs to streaming for $3 (or more) and make a profit while keeping your full collection.
If you wrote the article, maybe you should clarify what "bring in" means. If you can keep your physical copy, then yes it might be worthwhile.
If you have a large collection though it might be cheaper to buy some large hard disk drives, at 5 bucks a movie for an HD copy you could buy several if you have 100 or more movies.
I guess I'm a little odd, I've never felt the need to lug around my dvd collection, or watch movies on a phone.

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13. March 2012 @ 22:14 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Funny one...
I just got off the phone with Wal-mart customer service just to clarify things. The article in question is vague about the procedure.

Wal-Mart doesn't knows a thing about the deal with the movie industry.

Time to hit the training room.

Jeff
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13. March 2012 @ 22:23 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I want hd picture AND great sound. Are they able to stream dolby digital? I know my netflix streaming doesn't come close.
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13. March 2012 @ 23:02 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by wiseguy0:
I want hd picture AND great sound. Are they able to stream dolby digital? I know my netflix streaming doesn't come close.
Multi-channel sound takes a boatload of bandwidth.

When I had Netflix... 2 channel stereo using my LG Blu-ray players streaming function.

This is why I would rather play a Blu-ray optical disk on my home theater. 1080P + DTS 7.1 just like theaters use. No substitute so far.

Jeff

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Jeffrey_P
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13. March 2012 @ 23:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Okay,
this from Tom's hardware...

"To get the UltraViolet copies, customers simply head into Walmart's Photo Center and hand over their discs to an associate. After setting up a VUDU account, customers tell the associate how they want their movie served up and then the digital copes will be authorized in the VUDU account. No upload is necessary, and customers get to keep their precious discs. It sounds quicker than ordering a Happy Meal at McDonald's".

DVDBack23 was correct.

Jeff
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14. March 2012 @ 00:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:
Okay,
this from Tom's hardware...

"To get the UltraViolet copies, customers simply head into Walmart's Photo Center and hand over their discs to an associate. After setting up a VUDU account, customers tell the associate how they want their movie served up and then the digital copes will be authorized in the VUDU account. No upload is necessary, and customers get to keep their precious discs. It sounds quicker than ordering a Happy Meal at McDonald's".

DVDBack23 was correct.

Jeff
Does this come with the stupid Vudu logo on the bottom right side of the screen and the constant ads ?? Please ! This is nonsense !
Jeffrey_P
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14. March 2012 @ 00:43 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Have no idea but obviously you will have to subscribe to some some sort of streaming service. So the conversion cost is the tip of the iceberg.

Jeff
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14. March 2012 @ 02:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Personally, I feel this is just another way that they can control your movies, drain money from your pockets, and make sure that if you don't do things the way they want you to, you won't get anything. I am perfectly happy with all of my disks. I can watch them whenever I want, no internet connection required.
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14. March 2012 @ 05:53 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Why do you have to go to a Wal-Mart store to do this? More people would do this if they could do it from there PC. Not only would you have to go to a Wal-Mart that has this in there store, you have to bring all the movies in that you want converted.

Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:
Have no idea but obviously you will have to subscribe to some some sort of streaming service. So the conversion cost is the tip of the iceberg.

Jeff
I don't think there is any more costs, Vudu is a digital rental and purchase service. When you go to Wal-Mart they will add the movie to your account as if you went to Vudu and purchased the movie to own. You can also use the UV service to stream or download the movie directly to your PC.


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14. March 2012 @ 07:17 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Jhult:
Personally, I feel this is just another way that they can control your movies, drain money from your pockets, and make sure that if you don't do things the way they want you to, you won't get anything. I am perfectly happy with all of my disks. I can watch them whenever I want, no internet connection required.
I agree.. The fact of the matter is, I do not need anywhere access to movies. Whip up some popcorn and watch a video from home or a friends house. People who watch movies on their smart phones have way too much time on their hands.

Something still doesn't sound right with stamping the optical disk when you bring them to Wal-mart for a digital conversion. Stamping the disk with what means?

Jeff

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14. March 2012 @ 10:20 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Originally posted by Jeffrey_P:
Originally posted by Jhult:
Personally, I feel this is just another way that they can control your movies, drain money from your pockets, and make sure that if you don't do things the way they want you to, you won't get anything. I am perfectly happy with all of my disks. I can watch them whenever I want, no internet connection required.
I agree.. The fact of the matter is, I do not need anywhere access to movies. Whip up some popcorn and watch a video from home or a friends house. People who watch movies on their smart phones have way too much time on their hands.

Something still doesn't sound right with stamping the optical disk when you bring them to Wal-mart for a digital conversion. Stamping the disk with what means?

Jeff
It's all through Walmart. They get a cut. The Article & UltraViolet wasn't complete & that is that. It's a bunch of half assed projects trying to make up for piss poor planning & execution.

The only way anyone can get proper 'upgrades' to HD content from a DVD quality to a supposed 720 to 1080 resolution is to bring in your DVD copy of a movie, show it to a Walmartion & they give it their stamp of approval with a stock number proving your DVD is the only true Vudu original. Then it's happy viewing. Sound quality or download bandwidth be damned.

That's why you can't just do it online. Somebody has to physically witness that you have a legit copy of "My Little Ponies Goes To Hell" in order for you to get it in a choppy HD download of 720/1080, stereo.

I'll stick with my hard copy, thanks anyway.

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14. March 2012 @ 10:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Sounds like a marketing ploy to me. Walmart and their partners will have a complete inventory of your favorite movies along with your name and contact information. In "sales speak", they'll have one hell of a lead. Not too surprising since most e-businesses seem to be built around ad sales and marketing.

I don't think I'm going to like the new digital streaming status quo.
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