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Microsoft reminds customers of impending end of support for Windows XP
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 11 April, 2012
Microsoft has reminded its customers this week of Windows XP's impending end of life.
Support for Windows XP SP3 will be dropped on April 8th, 2014, as will support for Microsoft Office 2003.
Marketing director Stella Chernyak says the end-of-life means Microsoft will kill off all security updates, non-security hot-fixes and technical support after that date.
Says the director: ... [ read the full article ]
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hearme0
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11. April 2012 @ 14:44 |
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Hack away!!!
Any loser sticking with this old antiquated system deserves to be hacked into oblivion after support ends.
No doubt someone will make the case "If it works.......why get rid of it?" blah blah blah.
And I'll say "If you own a total P.O.S. car and it works........would you take it across country for a road trip knowing it's garbage?" Any reasonable person would not.
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wiimatrix
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11. April 2012 @ 15:04 |
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Quote:
Says the director: "Windows XP and Office 2003 were great software releases in their time, but the technology environment has shifted. Technology continues to evolve and so do people's needs and expectations."
What will be the comment for Vista then!!!!,might be an apology!!!
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11. April 2012 @ 18:58 |
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I see the problem being with the many numbers of XP computers being used as single purpose machines. Re-purposed to do some task with minimal updates and such.
For example: I have an old XP computer which maintains my usenet usage... It's always on and working.
No more XP updates may not hurt me, but there are valid reasons for still have XP.
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11. April 2012 @ 19:41 |
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bad analogy hearmeo.you are assuming xp was a piece of shit.just old,thats all.ive driven lots of old cars on long trips and never had a problem so whats your point? since you have such a low opinion of xp i assume you are a linux user and probably dont know jack shit about windows operating systems anyways.yes i use windows 7 and yes i like it but like the pastor i also have an old p4 on xp and have no plans to change that.the only real pain i see is if one has to do a clean install of xp it wont be quite as easy to find the updates as it is now.if this sounds harsh it should.i get real tired of being called any number of non techie expletives.since you obviously have no connection whatever with the reasons some people still use xp,i tend to value your opinion about that much.
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rulisky
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11. April 2012 @ 19:44 |
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Originally posted by hearme0:
And I'll say "If you own a total P.O.S. car and it works........would you take it across country for a road trip knowing it's garbage?" Any reasonable person would not.
CHILL!! OK. XP is an aging OS. But it is NOT a POS!! Unlike the car it continues to be what it is; and does not wear out merely from age.
Technology moves on (stumbles, ie. Vista) and eventually XP will be a fond memory. However, right now it does all that I need and does it well. Thank you.
I have tried Windows 7 and found it lacks the ability to run some programs necessary for me - even WITH the available XP emulation. I first tried 7 for a game that does not run on XP. Set up a dual boot machine with XP and 7. The game blew. Got rid of it. Kept 7 for a while and actually went back to a single boot for XP.
Right now my wife has a 7 machine and when she needs a program that will not run on it, she borrows my XP system.
Someday I may move on to 7, 8, or something else. Everything in it's place and time. Peace.
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ivymike
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11. April 2012 @ 22:37 |
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XP may be old but so is a 1970 Chevelle. Both run great compared to modern vehicles. Perhaps M$ will allow XP to be open sourced for those who don't like Vista, W7 or W8 but that's just a pipe dream. One can only hope
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hearme0
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12. April 2012 @ 15:40 |
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Originally posted by aldan:
bad analogy hearmeo.you are assuming xp was a piece of shit.just old,thats all.ive driven lots of old cars on long trips and never had a problem so whats your point? since you have such a low opinion of xp i assume you are a linux user and probably dont know jack shit about windows operating systems anyways.yes i use windows 7 and yes i like it but like the pastor i also have an old p4 on xp and have no plans to change that.the only real pain i see is if one has to do a clean install of xp it wont be quite as easy to find the updates as it is now.if this sounds harsh it should.i get real tired of being called any number of non techie expletives.since you obviously have no connection whatever with the reasons some people still use xp,i tend to value your opinion about that much.
Great analogy and nope......you never could have been more incorrect with your take on my statement. Referring to a P.O.S. car would typically lead people to believe it's OLD and outdated (by current standards and technologies). You just choose to misinterpret for yourself. XP is a P.O.S. by TODAY'S techno standards.........PERIOD. It's insecure and slow regarding productivity. Sure.......it's kinda quick when clicking around..........because it's a stripped down OS with nothing to it. 7 is benchmarked faster, has a viable 64 bit release and is easier to find files without "digging".
Defend XP all you want.....I'll hack yo ass 6 months after updates and security patches cease.
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hearme0
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12. April 2012 @ 15:42 |
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Originally posted by ivymike:
XP may be old but so is a 1970 Chevelle. Both run great compared to modern vehicles. Perhaps M$ will allow XP to be open sourced for those who don't like Vista, W7 or W8 but that's just a pipe dream. One can only hope
Good GOD..........you did NOT just use a 70 Chevelle as an example of a "great running" car. Yeah.........with new engine, new struts and control arms and a new 8 track. Sheesh!
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Kannz
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12. April 2012 @ 17:42 |
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thats why I triple boot xp,win7 and lin. why the hell would you want to use just one os? I guess people just like limiting themselves... they all have their advantages and disadvantages. But there is ALOT of old ass software and hardware that is still useful and fun to use and doesn't work on the new OS's or at least isn't supported.
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12. April 2012 @ 18:13 |
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hearme0,i see you know as much about cars as you know about operating systems.70 chevelle did not have mcphereson strut suspension.as i said before many have legitimate reasons for using xp.dont feel bad,i thought i knew everything when i was younger.i found out,just like you will,i didnt.i think i am done with your brand of crap for now.
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ivymike
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12. April 2012 @ 22:12 |
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I use 64 bit XP and it runs much smoother than 64 bit W7. XP is a KISS (Keep It Simple, Stupid) type of operating system. Anything you don't need or don't want is easily removed as opposed to W7. I do have W7 on one machine and it tends to crash and freeze up much more frequently even though it has 4 Gb RAM, a Core 2 Duo CPU and SLI. Hopefully Microsoft will compile all the bugfixes for XP into a final rollup like they did with W2K....
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ddp
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12. April 2012 @ 22:26 |
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i use both xp & win7 on different machines with xp on this machine i'm posting with.
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12. April 2012 @ 22:57 |
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i will say that win7 runs much faster on this old celeron d.also there are many ways to get to the same place so to speak.right now its just too much of a pain to get the old p4 to win7.
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13. April 2012 @ 14:36 |
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Originally posted by aldan:
bad analogy hearmeo.you are assuming xp was a piece of shit.just old,thats all.ive driven lots of old cars on long trips and never had a problem so whats your point? since you have such a low opinion of xp i assume you are a linux user and probably dont know jack shit about windows operating systems anyways.yes i use windows 7 and yes i like it but like the pastor i also have an old p4 on xp and have no plans to change that.the only real pain i see is if one has to do a clean install of xp it wont be quite as easy to find the updates as it is now.if this sounds harsh it should.i get real tired of being called any number of non techie expletives.since you obviously have no connection whatever with the reasons some people still use xp,i tend to value your opinion about that much.
I would agree...
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gryphon1
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13. April 2012 @ 16:29 |
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as a person who works out in the real world at manufacturing facilities i have to say that if it still works you'll find it on the shop floor, some of the equipment i deal with is 20+ years old and still going strong. only a few years ago i was dealing with a DOS based control system. it is impossible to find hardware or software upgrades compatable for Vista and Win 7 that will communicate with the equipement out there. Not to mention all the great older programs that still will not run in XP mode, VMWare for me! if I had to update all my software i would be rivaling the national debt! XP still has it's place.
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13. April 2012 @ 16:49 |
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Originally posted by gryphon1:
as a person who works out in the real world at manufacturing facilities i have to say that if it still works you'll find it on the shop floor, some of the equipment i deal with is 20+ years old and still going strong. only a few years ago i was dealing with a DOS based control system. it is impossible to find hardware or software upgrades compatable for Vista and Win 7 that will communicate with the equipement out there. Not to mention all the great older programs that still will not run in XP mode, VMWare for me! if I had to update all my software i would be rivaling the national debt! XP still has it's place.
Which is why the PLC industry needs to wake up and either write drivers that will work in the new world or upgrade their equipment. POS systems had to do just that although there are still plenty of RS232C or 422 systems still in use.
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gryphon1
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13. April 2012 @ 17:12 |
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Which is why the PLC industry needs to wake up and either write drivers that will work in the new world or upgrade their equipment. POS systems had to do just that although there are still plenty of RS232C or 422 systems still in use.
new equipemnet, no problem, going ethernet based. swapping out existing multi million dollar lines running current production for new ones or re-vamping the controls is just cost prohibitive with the engineering and manpower involved. cheaper to modify. keeps me working!
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13. April 2012 @ 17:42 |
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Originally posted by gryphon1:
Which is why the PLC industry needs to wake up and either write drivers that will work in the new world or upgrade their equipment. POS systems had to do just that although there are still plenty of RS232C or 422 systems still in use.
new equipemnet, no problem, going ethernet based. swapping out existing multi million dollar lines running current production for new ones or re-vamping the controls is just cost prohibitive with the engineering and manpower involved. cheaper to modify. keeps me working!
That's life....
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keno777
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13. April 2012 @ 19:34 |
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Thanks for the great ride with Windows XP.
For the last 4 months I have been running
LINUX. LINUX the best system I have ever ran.
It's great to have a stable and fast
running computer again. I don't like
window's 7 or the new 8 that's going
to send more people to LINUX.
Ken
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13. April 2012 @ 20:20 |
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No, most people will not wast their time with Linux, it still is far from a user friendly system, even with some of the improvements they have made.
People will go to Mac before Linux which is starting to happen just through the brainwashing the schools provide these days and the iCrap frenzy.
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13. April 2012 @ 21:57 |
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To address one of the larger elephants in the room, XP is far from a POS system. Making such claims is incredibly ignorant and/or poorly stated. While the time to move on will inevitably come, it certainly still has it's place; at least right now. I have a laptop with a 32-bit Core 2 Duo at 2.1GHz, 3GB RAM, and an 256MB NVidia 8400M GT GPU. It runs Windows 7 just fine. But if I dare try loading any games or whatnot the framerate is so poor (even on lowest settings) that it becomes completely unplayable. I have XP Pro as a secondary boot and it runs WAY better because it's built with YAGNI in mind and not loaded with tons of extra OS processes.
Maybe the original instigator doesn't have a problem, but there's a decent amount of us that can't afford more modern systems with better specifications. Ranting about how crappy XP is and saying us users should be "hacked into oblivion" is the sort of ignorant, troll comment one would expect to see on YouTube, not a tech site...
Doesnt expecting the unexpected make the unexpected expected and therefore mean youre expecting the expected which was the unexpected until you expected it?
"Opinions are immunities to being told were wrong." - Relient K
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getanacct
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13. April 2012 @ 22:09 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
No, most people will not wast their time with Linux, it still is far from a user friendly system, even with some of the improvements they have made.
People will go to Mac before Linux which is starting to happen just through the brainwashing the schools provide these days and the iCrap frenzy.
Even with the Mac, with the news that even they can have spyware should give those considering a Mac for their new PC a slight pause, because it shows that no OS or PC is immune to talented virus/trojan writers.
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14. April 2012 @ 00:38 |
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Originally posted by WierdName:
To address one of the larger elephants in the room, XP is far from a POS system. Making such claims is incredibly ignorant and/or poorly stated. While the time to move on will inevitably come, it certainly still has it's place; at least right now. I have a laptop with a 32-bit Core 2 Duo at 2.1GHz, 3GB RAM, and an 256MB NVidia 8400M GT GPU. It runs Windows 7 just fine. But if I dare try loading any games or whatnot the framerate is so poor (even on lowest settings) that it becomes completely unplayable. I have XP Pro as a secondary boot and it runs WAY better because it's built with YAGNI in mind and not loaded with tons of extra OS processes.
Maybe the original instigator doesn't have a problem, but there's a decent amount of us that can't afford more modern systems with better specifications. Ranting about how crappy XP is and saying us users should be "hacked into oblivion" is the sort of ignorant, troll comment one would expect to see on YouTube, not a tech site...
You really are off base, as usual, as a lot of stores run their POS's on XP and that is a fact! You want to talk about ignorant, WOW you have it in spades!
Enough said!
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Whisperer
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14. April 2012 @ 03:16 |
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Originally posted by hearme0:
Originally posted by ivymike:
XP may be old but so is a 1970 Chevelle. Both run great compared to modern vehicles. Perhaps M$ will allow XP to be open sourced for those who don't like Vista, W7 or W8 but that's just a pipe dream. One can only hope
Good GOD..........you did NOT just use a 70 Chevelle as an example of a "great running" car. Yeah.........with new engine, new struts and control arms and a new 8 track. Sheesh!
You are arrogant and rude. How old are you? Do you make great money? The recession has hit may people very hard. Many people can't afford to upgrade to new machines that will handle the overhead of newer versions of windows. How about a little grace in your comments.
Regards,
Whisperer
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