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Tim Cook's memo to employees following Samsung verdict
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 25 August, 2012
Last night, a jury awarded Apple $1.05 billion in a sweeping victory over Samsung.
Samsung had been accused of infringing on 7 Apple patents, and it was ruled that they in fact had, on all 7 counts.
The case had been thrown out in pretty much every court in the world, including Germany and Korea, but not in the U.S.
Apple CEO Tim Cook has sent a memo to all employees, following the ruling:
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jackalguy
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25. August 2012 @ 18:52 |
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I will almost always proudly purchase a Samsung product over an Apple product any day, and this victory reeks of bullshit. Samsung's loss in court here just makes my dislike of Apple and its dogmatic supporters even stronger. I'm sure the fact that Apple is now the face of successful American corporatism had nothing to do with the U.S. court's decision, when international courts wouldn't even hear the case.
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joebloe12
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25. August 2012 @ 18:53 |
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Don't gloat too soon Apple, there is always an appeals process.
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ivymike
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25. August 2012 @ 19:24 |
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I wonder how much apple paid the judge to find in their favor????
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xnonsuchx
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25. August 2012 @ 19:50 |
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Originally posted by ivymike:
I wonder how much apple paid the judge to find in their favor????
And how much did Samsung pay you to feel the way you do? :-)
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Tazer247
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25. August 2012 @ 19:51 |
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Originally posted by ivymike:
I wonder how much apple paid the judge to find in their favor????
Or how many Apple products are now being sent to those jury members as a "thank you".
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AfterDawn Addict
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25. August 2012 @ 20:33 |
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I lol'ed.
That is all
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brockie
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25. August 2012 @ 21:10 |
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would have given both of them nothing.
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ivymike
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25. August 2012 @ 21:37 |
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"Values" didn't win.....money, greed and influence is what has won.
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klassic
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25. August 2012 @ 22:50 |
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The box we use to comment on articles here has buttons that are shaped like "rounded rectangles". Apple sues the internet!
I wanna devise a virus and bring dire straights to your environments. Crush your corporations with a mild touch, trash the whole computer systems and revert you to papyrus - Deltron 3030
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25. August 2012 @ 23:25 |
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Sickening...like beating a blind man with a baseball bat, stealing his wallet, and then proudly proclaiming how justified you are.
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scorpNZ
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26. August 2012 @ 00:09 |
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Everywhere else the bid has failed on the planet does this mean they were wrong somth'n ain't right backroom deals are going on me thinks,seeing this article doesn't help much when i just finished watching ides of march
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SomeBozo
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26. August 2012 @ 00:11 |
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I have mixed feelings. As an American i'm glad to see a U.S. company win out over a foreign country's company. But on the other side i'm truely interested in justice and what is right. To this end, and to be fair and honest, it seems to me that if a country which has a country that can impose fines and derive income from a given ruling they will in favor of their own country provided the ruling isn't against a company in their own country. Perhaps i might look at it as tariff legislation.
On the flip side i don't care much for App1e and sorry to see they won.
So i'm mixed on this ruling for different reasons. On the other side it seems to highlight how full of crap the entire patent system currently seems. It really needs to be overhauled to be more meaningful.
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Interestx
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26. August 2012 @ 00:32 |
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This isn't the first time American patent law has been the vehicle for beating up on foreign competitors and it won't be the last.
But be in no doubt that is what goes on.
I'm reminded of the German company that subcontracted a US firm to install a radar surveillance system used in air traffic control.
The American company then patented the design in the US under their name and then launched a law suite against the German company when they tried to install its own same system for another customer.
The whole US patent system is a license for US companies to steal foreign innovations and ideas and keep foreign companies out of its market and profit from their ideas.
The whole issue of patents & copyright needs serious overhaul.
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26. August 2012 @ 02:46 |
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Originally posted by SomeBozo:
I have mixed feelings. As an American i'm glad to see a U.S. company win out over a foreign country's company. But on the other side i'm truely interested in justice and what is right. To this end, and to be fair and honest, it seems to me that if a country which has a country that can impose fines and derive income from a given ruling they will in favor of their own country provided the ruling isn't against a company in their own country. Perhaps i might look at it as tariff legislation.
Interesting, but that hardly seems the case...Samsung has factories in the US, Apple does not. What do I care about the location of the primary headquarters when both companies are owned by stockholders all over the world, and when Samsung USA pays taxes on profits just like Apple USA does? Samsung is making jobs in the USA, and they have no reason to other than good will. If they set up tariffs to increase the cost of foreign-made goods, thus decreasing the savings gained by using Chinese slave labor, that would be one thing...but Apple uses Chinese slave labor more than Samsung does...in fact, about the only US-made parts that Apple uses at all are the processors that are made by Samsung, so this ruling is hardly a tariff; it is more of an anti-teriff.
Originally posted by Interestx:
The whole US patent system is a license for US companies to steal foreign innovations and ideas and keep foreign companies out of its market and profit from their ideas.
No, that is just part of it...it is also a tool for large corporations with pools of lawyers to attack start-ups with new ideas, as the little guy will usually go bankrupt while trying to get justice for a stolen patent or while trying to defend himself against a fraudulent patent claim.
Overall, this whole thing just makes me sick...patent and copywrite laws have been screwed up for a long time, but things are getting to the point that it seems there is no hope of ever fixing them. If I wanted to demonstrate the insanity of the system a year ago, I might have tried to file a troll case against someone for using a common shape that I didn't invent...now Apple has not only gotten a jury to agree that they are the only ones who should be able to use a shape that existed long before the company (or even the country) was founded, but the scumbag CEO is boasting about how anyone else who uses the shape is a thief, all while taking money from them for using something that is the most clear example of prior art in recent memory!
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beanos66
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26. August 2012 @ 05:36 |
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the jury "Invested Their Time" they couldn't even be arsed to read the documents given to them, they just "voted" for the American organisation like it was some sort of TV phone in show
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snaketus
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26. August 2012 @ 06:03 |
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xtago
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26. August 2012 @ 06:22 |
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I wouldn't expect an iphone or anything apple to be released this year now.
I would expect Samsung to remove their products from being used in Apple devices, I find it odd that the devices are the problem when everything is all software based.
Like double tap on the screen is some how a reason that all galaxy s phones are exact copied of an iphone, hell the S Sii are larger than an iphone and a Siii or almost twice the size of an iphone.
It's quite funny when people come up to me saying I've got an iphone when it's my galaxy s and I tell them this is larger than an iphone, when they see my siii I it's way too large to be anything like an iphone so that question never comes up.
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Joe_1981
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26. August 2012 @ 09:24 |
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Funny how all these other countries had thrown the case out. Apple had to try a dozen times before they were able to get the win. Ridiculous!
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26. August 2012 @ 11:24 |
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26. August 2012 @ 11:27 |
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26. August 2012 @ 12:22 |
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You know, now that I think about it... Wasn't Judge Rya the little old lady that bashed her head into the glass wall of the Apple building because she couldn't find her way out?
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SomeBozo
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26. August 2012 @ 12:38 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
related:
also, not to speak ill of the dead or anything, but:
http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2011-11-08/Dennis_Ritchie.jpg
Great point. Not only was Jobs a thief, but i would say a hypocrite as well. Jobs and company stole the idea of the mouse and graphical interface from Xer0x, and later tried suing Micr0s0ft for look and feel. Talk about being a hypocrite, if this is speaking ill of the dead, too bad... I'm not saying anything or changing what I'd say if he were still alive...
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26. August 2012 @ 13:44 |
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Originally posted by sammorris:
related:
also, not to speak ill of the dead or anything, but:
http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2011-11-08/Dennis_Ritchie.jpg
Yeah...you shouldn't speak ill of the dead...all those people bashing Hitler, Stalin, Kim Jong Il, Mao, Lenin, Pol Pot, etc really annoy me.[/sarcasm]
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bodyman247
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26. August 2012 @ 15:32 |
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I still look at samslung as the trash wal-mart used to sell,lmao!
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ZeusAV
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27. August 2012 @ 00:13 |
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Time for Samsung to innovate. Let's see what a little R&D investment can do for them.
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