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Hackers leak 1 million Apple device IDs stolen from FBI notebook
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article published on 4 September, 2012
The hacking group AntiSec has released 1,000,001 Apple Unique Device Identifiers (UDIDs) they say were taken from a hacked FBI notebook.
Altogether, the group says they have over 12 million IDs along with the personal information of the owners of the devices.
Reads the statement released by the group:
During the second week of March 2012, a Dell Vostro notebook, used by Supervisor ... [ read the full article ]
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4. September 2012 @ 11:07 |
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Within reason, EVERYONE may either have or have had an FBI file on them. I KNOW I have! Some of you guys typing in here have probably got a lengthy one piling up as we read right now.
You'll piss & bitch the "C" word & that I've lost my mind, but it depends on what verbiage you use that flags you into a person of interest.
Heated political discussions, comments on the president, anything on terrorism, you guys can do the math. All come up on a server as 'flags' worthy of concern to at least be 'looked at'.
It's how much of a crack pot to legitimate argument you make that they start keeping track.
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4. September 2012 @ 11:31 |
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I don't even live in America, and I am so f**king disgusted by this. The governments continual need to watch & control our lives is sickening.
Over 200 years old and yet still so relevant:
"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground." ? Thomas Jefferson
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4. September 2012 @ 12:01 |
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Originally posted by pensfan12:
Over 200 years old and yet still so relevant:
"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground." ? Thomas Jefferson
But it was basically being stated for/by rich white guys who didn't want to pay taxes & were willing to let other poor white guys die for their beliefs. But I'm falling desperately off topic.
Plus, it's like I have said time & again, proven throughout history as truth, NOBODY is capable of controlling another living entity. You may be given the 'illusion' that you are, but that's all it is.
The only real thing you have control of is, is your own ass & the given situation you find yourself in. Master the one before the other & you'll have balance. Keep following the 'control' model & you'll get nothing but chaos & ulcers. And possibly shot in the back or your throat cut in the middle of the night.
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4. September 2012 @ 12:12 |
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Let me clarify, EVERYONE in the US including the President has an FBI file. This practice has been going on long before the age of terrorism. However, I do agree that unless you're a convicted felon, the gov't has no business keeping track. Just my 2 cents.
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4. September 2012 @ 13:32 |
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With best regards
George Orwell 1984
some countries of the socalled free world are on the right path to it
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4. September 2012 @ 14:35 |
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That's why you need to STAY OFF THE GRID!!!!
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4. September 2012 @ 18:50 |
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"Hey FBI Press Office we want to verify the authenticity of your latest press release. >>> RE: Apple, we are going to need access to your network." oh wait....
https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7600181/
Call the FBI press office at 202-324-3691 and ask WHY an agents unsecured laptop contained +1 million apple users info. (Actually are 12 Millions)
http://pastebin.com/nfVT7b0Z
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4. September 2012 @ 19:38 |
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Originally posted by Mrguss:
"Hey FBI Press Office we want to verify the authenticity of your latest press release. >>> RE: Apple, we are going to need access to your network." oh wait....
https://thepiratebay.se/torrent/7600181/
Call the FBI press office at 202-324-3691 and ask WHY an agents unsecured laptop contained +1 million apple users info. (Actually are 12 Millions)
Oh this makes me laugh. I work for a major corporation that will remain annoyn. but the funny thing on this part is that we aren't stupid enough to leave this crap unlocked. I'm sure he wasn't paying attention and someone took an opportunity. If it was me im sure i would have done the same thing.
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5. September 2012 @ 01:32 |
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I wonder if the FBI are able to tell how many time people visit porn site on they cell phone?
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5. September 2012 @ 03:59 |
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Originally posted by aeonstom0:
I wonder if the FBI are able to tell how many time people visit porn site on they cell phone?
It's the photos they took of you with your forward facing camera while you were viewing the porn site you should be worried about!
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5. September 2012 @ 12:01 |
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Response from FBI? ahhh ahhh... ummm... (lie) propaganda ( Freedom) Terrorism )they should release the list
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5. September 2012 @ 18:14 |
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Live Free or Die.
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Capitalism: Funnel most of the $$$ to the already rich.
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6. September 2012 @ 03:11 |
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I find it quite interesting...
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People here are shocked that the FBI may/do keep a track file on you
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People here are worried about what the FBI and why they would keep track files on US people in the US.
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Are trying to work out how they can stop the FBI from keeping a track file on them or how to get off one.
All the While completely forget that...
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Antisec have hacked or gotten hold of a FBI laptop with the mobile IDs of 12 million US iPhones.
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Couldn't careless about what the AntiSec group is doing with that database.
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Not fussed about their mobile service being terminated at anytime without your own consent.
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Haven't once given any thought to why they would want a Database with that info nor fussed about why they have released 1 million US iPhone ID freely out onto the net so anyone or phishing group can do what ever they like with the data about those 1 to 12 million iPhone IDs.
Quite interesting indeed.
No wonder people lose their Identities so easily in the US.
Probably why the FBI keep files in the first place so people can't forge other people's IDs within the US.
Just an Idea as to why they keep those track files.
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7. September 2012 @ 12:02 |
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Can belive no one has brought up the fact upto fairly recently all the idevices were recording you location indefinately, its all for research purposes honestly.
Its not as if all modern smart phones can be subverted into highly sophisticated tacking and listening devices..
Personally im just waiting for the first speeding ticket because my mobile was reported doing 10 mph over the speed limit.
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7. September 2012 @ 12:32 |
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"1,000,000,1"
Somebody should fix this.
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7. September 2012 @ 15:24 |
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Originally posted by plazma247:
Can belive no one has brought up the fact upto fairly recently all the idevices were recording you location indefinately, its all for research purposes honestly.
Its not as if all modern smart phones can be subverted into highly sophisticated tacking and listening devices..
Personally im just waiting for the first speeding ticket because my mobile was reported doing 10 mph over the speed limit.
Feds: Your Cell-Phone's Location Data IS NOT Private:
http://ow.ly/dwtie
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Capitalism: Funnel most of the $$$ to the already rich.
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7. September 2012 @ 15:48 |
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Originally posted by LordRuss:
Originally posted by pensfan12:
Over 200 years old and yet still so relevant:
"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground." ? Thomas Jefferson
But it was basically being stated for/by rich white guys who didn't want to pay taxes & were willing to let other poor white guys die for their beliefs. But I'm falling desperately off topic.
Plus, it's like I have said time & again, proven throughout history as truth, NOBODY is capable of controlling another living entity. You may be given the 'illusion' that you are, but that's all it is.
The only real thing you have control of is, is your own ass & the given situation you find yourself in. Master the one before the other & you'll have balance. Keep following the 'control' model & you'll get nothing but chaos & ulcers. And possibly shot in the back or your throat cut in the middle of the night.
Not true they throw you in prison and they control you. They decide what you can and can not buy and they control you. They say you can't discipline your kids or they will take them away and they control you. They say you can smoke but you can't smoke outside or in a public place, they control you. They say large sodas are bad so you can't buy one at a fast food and they control you. Need I go further?
The FBI shouldn't be snooping on us like they are. It use to be against the law but since the government and law is so powerful they can get away with whatever they wish, and do. There is no reason this asshole agent should have all of that personal information on his system and worst yet to let it be leaked!
1984 definitely!
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7. September 2012 @ 16:25 |
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They say large sodas are bad so you can't buy one at a fast food
And make more money for the corporations because people buy 2 instead of one... I haven't heard of anything the government has done that was good for the country in many years.
Has anyone asked if apple gave the government those numbers and did they ask for a warrent? I doubt the government is the only guilty party here, but who knows, I certainly don't. And I can't think of any good reason why these should be on a laptop. Allowing someone to download the personal information for up to 12 million people to their laptop is beyond stupid, but we are talking the government here, and they do seem to be trying to take out a monolopy on stupid.
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7. September 2012 @ 18:07 |
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the governments new response to the freedom of speech and liberty
is " FOR THE GREATER GOOD " and as Jo Average we cant win their propaganda machine always has an answer
the thing is Corporations have got to powerful and they now are the puppet masters using different governments in different countries to do their bidding and spread paranoia about things so the the sheep in the street think we need to be spied on to "Protect Us" as if control the masses is what they need starting with the internet eg. Hollywood / Kim Dotcom saga
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8. September 2012 @ 21:46 |
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Apple is not going to like this. It will probably sue FBI for COPYING...
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9. September 2012 @ 04:59 |
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what the government does is collect data.if people object they throw words around like terrorism to scare people and make people think its a good idea people are being monitered incase someone is actually planning something.I dont have a problem if the government wanted to moniter me (im not a criminal) my problem is what happens to the info and who has access to it and who moniters the people monitering the people.
FBI should of protected the data.I dont actually know whats in the data but im guessing there is personal info that shouldnt be made publically available.
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9. September 2012 @ 15:35 |
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Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Not true they throw you in prison and they control you. They decide what you can and can not buy and they control you. They say you can't discipline your kids or they will take them away and they control you. They say you can smoke but you can't smoke outside or in a public place, they control you. They say large sodas are bad so you can't buy one at a fast food and they control you. Need I go further?
The FBI shouldn't be snooping on us like they are. It use to be against the law but since the government and law is so powerful they can get away with whatever they wish, and do. There is no reason this asshole agent should have all of that personal information on his system and worst yet to let it be leaked!
1984 definitely!
Not so in return sir! Even though you may be incarcerated, your thoughts are still your own, what you do in your cell are still your own actions. Your amount of willingness to cooperate while incarcerated is still your decision... Again, you speak without thinking, thus proving my point, YOU aren't even in the basic control of your own person.
I may discipline my kids, but I only control the situation in which they're behavior decides the outcome. I grew up in a disturbingly abusive household & should have been an axe murderer, but through proper training outside my nuclear hell hole, "I" took control of my surroundings & "MY" situation & prosper today.
Take a large thermos into an establishment & fill it up. Are they going to refuse the service? I think not. Establishments are going back to smoking in doors again, reversing what was. So yes, I can go on.
Don't tell me at any point anyone CAN'T take control of a situation.Thus, rendering your examples null.
However, it doesn't reverse any agreement that a singular FBI agent should be strolling around with a laptop with a few million phone identifiers on it.
I would really like to know what the hell happened to all the laws governing the US against spying against its own citizens.
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10. September 2012 @ 22:58 |
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Originally posted by LordRuss:
Originally posted by Mr-Movies:
Not true they throw you in prison and they control you. They decide what you can and can not buy and they control you. They say you can't discipline your kids or they will take them away and they control you. They say you can smoke but you can't smoke outside or in a public place, they control you. They say large sodas are bad so you can't buy one at a fast food and they control you. Need I go further?
The FBI shouldn't be snooping on us like they are. It use to be against the law but since the government and law is so powerful they can get away with whatever they wish, and do. There is no reason this asshole agent should have all of that personal information on his system and worst yet to let it be leaked!
1984 definitely!
Not so in return sir! Even though you may be incarcerated, your thoughts are still your own, what you do in your cell are still your own actions. Your amount of willingness to cooperate while incarcerated is still your decision... Again, you speak without thinking, thus proving my point, YOU aren't even in the basic control of your own person.
I may discipline my kids, but I only control the situation in which they're behavior decides the outcome. I grew up in a disturbingly abusive household & should have been an axe murderer, but through proper training outside my nuclear hell hole, "I" took control of my surroundings & "MY" situation & prosper today.
Take a large thermos into an establishment & fill it up. Are they going to refuse the service? I think not. Establishments are going back to smoking in doors again, reversing what was. So yes, I can go on.
Don't tell me at any point anyone CAN'T take control of a situation.Thus, rendering your examples null.
However, it doesn't reverse any agreement that a singular FBI agent should be strolling around with a laptop with a few million phone identifiers on it.
I would really like to know what the hell happened to all the laws governing the US against spying against its own citizens.
You don't get it just because you can think whatever you want that doesn't make you free and doesn't mean someone isn't controlling you.
Originally posted by xboxdvl2:
.I dont have a problem if the government wanted to moniter me (im not a criminal) my problem is what happens to the info and who has access to it and who moniters the people monitering the people.
You don't have to be a criminal to be labeled one or setup as one if the government wished it so. Maybe you become a fall guy to cover up something they are doing that is not above board. Odds are it would never happen but it can and does. The more info they have on you the more power they have over you. Also if you are not a criminal why are they collecting info on you? What's the point?? Unless there is a agenda that isn't above board!
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11. September 2012 @ 07:29 |
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i honestly dont know if the fbi would be keeping info on me as im not american and dont live in america.
I have however met an australian government worker who can pull just about an info she wants regarding me including 200 or so pages of mental health records,court records,school reports,immigration records,she can also gain a list contacts of anyone ive met in the last 28 years.
The australian government would have info on me as im mentally ill and possibly dangerous if i was to stop taking my medication.
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