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ncm
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20. July 2004 @ 12:30 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I've successfully used Mac The Ripper to rip several DVDs I own, but they were either zone 2 (Europe, where I live) or zone free. I've now tried to rip 2 zone 1 DVDs and it doesn't work. I get errors in MTR as soon as I hit the GO button. Sometimes it will say the process was stopped by User (me and certainly didn't stop the process) other times I get a series of error messages. In any case I've had no luck at all so far. These are DVDs with DISC RCE set to Clear so I shouldn't have to input the original zone of the DVD (I've left the RCE Region set to OFF as per the instructions). Anybody have some useful advice?

Thanks,

ncm
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ncm
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21. July 2004 @ 03:04 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Additional info:

among the errors I get in Mac The Ripper upon hitting the GO button are:

DVD Error!
Failed opening IFO for title set 1, Mirror of main feature file which is title set 1 failed, Mirror of DVD Main Feature Failed

this is with an NTSC zone 1 disc. My G4's DVD Player is set to zone 2 (Europe) but this shouldn't matter to Mac The Ripper.

cheers,

ncm
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21. July 2004 @ 03:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Have you tried to set the RCE region to 1?


You can also flash the firmware of your Superdrive to make it Region Free.

http://xvi.rpc1.org/region.html

http://www.macetvideo.com/flashpioneerosx/flashpioneerosx.html (If you do not understand French you can use Sherlock to translate it)


ncm
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21. July 2004 @ 03:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
>>Have you tried to set the RCE region to 1?<<

Yes, I tried that and got a message from MTR saying the DISC RCE was CLEAR and I should use the default 0. Tried anyhow to click 'continue' but got the usual DVD error messages.

I have downloaded the firmware flash for my Superdrive to make it zone free but haven't installed yet....chicken (g). Might do that soon, but don't see why that should affect MTR which doesn't need any confirmation from DVD player first, as some other sw does.

cheers,

ncm
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21. July 2004 @ 03:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
In System Preferences do you have "When you insert a video DVD" set to "Ignore"?

If not do it, reboot and try MTR again.

PS. Try also to extract just the movie.
ncm
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21. July 2004 @ 05:08 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
>>In System Preferences do you have "When you insert a video DVD" set to "Ignore"? <<

Yes, I assume so since when I insert a DVD nothing happens except it appears on the desktop. DVD Player doesn't launch. I must have changed that setting when I started ripping backups of my DVDs. I don't want to check right now as I am in the process of burning one now...a zone 2 DVD which works fine, and I'd rather not do other things on the G4 while that is going on. Am writing this on my PB.

Could it have something to do with the discs that don't work being NTSC (and my Mac being set up for PAL)? Or zone1? I've done successful burns both with zone free discs and with zone 2 discs, though my copy of Mac The Ripper is the US version, downloaded from their site. I use US English in Panther on my macs.

cheers,

ncm
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21. July 2004 @ 05:26 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
NTSC and PAL are TV formats and both will play on a computer.

I guess that the easiest solution would be to flash your superdrive. If you use the link I gave you earlier you can do it from OSX and it only takes 1 minute. I have not heard of a single case going wrong.

PS. I always do my burnings in the background while doing other things and never had a problem.
ncm
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21. July 2004 @ 07:05 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
>>I guess that the easiest solution would be to flash your superdrive. If you use the link I gave you earlier you can do it from OSX and it only takes 1 minute. I have not heard of a single case going wrong.<<

Well, here's one. I just tried it, and it didn't work. I got an error message during the Terminal session as follows:

Switching drive to Kernel mode:
Unlock - Reset (Sense: 05 24 00)
Downgrade activation reported an error. Attempting to continue anyway.
Could not set Kernel mode

Then it said it had finished the process and to reboot. I did. System Profiler still says the firmware is version A227 and DVD Info X says the drive is still region locked (into region 2) with 4 changes to go.

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21. July 2004 @ 07:48 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Did you try the X227 or the 1.40 firmware?

Remember that there should not be a disc in the drive at the
time that you apply the firmware.

When you first set a region you are left with 4 more changes
so nothing has happened.

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ncm
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21. July 2004 @ 08:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
>>Did you try the X227 or the 1.40 firmware? <<

First tried the 1.40 and when that didn't work, after rebooting and checking System Profiler I tried X227. Same results, same error message with both.

>>Remember that there should not be a disc in the drive at the
time that you apply the firmware. <<

Yes, I know. No disc was in the drive.

And yes, nothing happened - at all. Drive was completely untouched. I've since tried a DVD in it and it plays fine, so nothing was broken, at least. What now?

cheers,

ncm
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21. July 2004 @ 08:55 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
What OSX version are you using?

I flashed my 106 without a problem (10.3.4).

You can email the guy who wrote the guide at
alynpier@macetvideo.com for help.

PS. There is another firmware but you need to boot in OS9 to
do it. You can find it here (Look for DVR-104 for Mac)
http://pioneerdvd.rpc1.org/

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ncm
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21. July 2004 @ 09:10 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
>>What OSX version are you using? <<

OSX10.3.4

Thanks for the links. I'll try writing the guy who wrote the guide and see if he has any tips. I could also try the OS9 version, since my G4 does boot into OS9.

cheers,

ncm

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21. July 2004 @ 09:37 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Good luck and let me know if you get it to work. My parents have a 104 in their iMac and I was thinking of flashing it.
ncm
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21. July 2004 @ 09:49 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Will do. But it may take a while. Am leaving for my sister's in Amsterdam tomorrow afternoon and won't be back to Paris (and my G4) till the evening of August 8th.

cheers,

ncm
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21. July 2004 @ 10:33 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Do not worry. I live in London and will not be visiting my parents in Spain till September.

Have a nice trip.
ncm
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21. July 2004 @ 10:41 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Thanks. You too (in September, when Spain is likely to have a better climate than the UK - or Paris, for that matter).

Wish there was a way to de-zone the latest Powerbooks. I have a combo drive in my 12" and since it travels with me, it would be actually more useful to have a zone-free laptop than the G4 desktop at home. But, alas, no news on that front.

cheers,

ncm
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21. July 2004 @ 11:18 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Take a look at this forum I have just found:

http://forum.rpc1.org/viewforum.php?f=30
ncm
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21. July 2004 @ 11:56 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
thanx. Have posted a query as to the firmware update there too.

cheers,

ncm
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21. July 2004 @ 15:38 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
Update: I downloaded the older 1.20 firmware update fr OS9x and rebooted in OS9 and that worked! Then rebooted in OSX and launched RegionX and changed the region to zone 1. Then launched MTR and now it works for zone 1 DVDs. So the problem seems to be solved.

Thanks for all the help.

cheers,

ncm
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21. July 2004 @ 17:45 _ Link to this message    Send private message to this user   
I am glad to hear you got it working. I will try the same procedure on my parents' iMac. ;-)
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