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BigPerm
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21. July 2004 @ 17:10 |
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Hi everyone, I'm still very new to this site, I have another thread that I posted before saying that I can burn DVD+RW but not DVD+R's, because this was the case before, but I'm starting a new thread because I can't burn DVD+RW's anymore either, don't ask me why. I've got the Creative DVD+/-rw Dual 8X Dvdcreative Labs Dvd +/- Rw Burner. My problem is that I can encode DVD's just fine, but I can't burn them.
Here are my problems:
1) When I try burning a disc image, it burns extrememly slow (about .2x-.4x on average), then it stops transfering the data all together and is usually followed by some burning error message.
2) When I put a blank disc in the burner drive, in "My Computer", it will only notice it as having free space on it if its a DVD+RW and if its Formatted with InCD. If I put any other blank disk in there (a DVD+R, or an unformatted DVD+RW) then it says that the Free Space is 0kb and the Used Space is 0kb, like its not even recognizing the media.
I've tried tons of things to try and fix these problems:
1) I've tried different brands of media (Memorex, Fuji Film, Verbatim)
2) I've tried burning with DVD Decrypter as well as Nero with same results for both.
3) I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling the Burner Drive.
4) I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling the IDE Channel Drivers in order to make sure that they are set to "DMA if Available".
5) I've tried updating the firmware from the Creative website.
6) I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling Nero and then updating it at the Nero website.
7) I've tried rearranging my drives and currently my DVD burner is set to Master on the Secondary IDE channel.
I've done just about everything that I can think of except installing hack-ware, because if my drive is that messed up I'll just return it and I don't want to void my warranty. If its in anyone's opinion that the drive is just bad, I'll definatly respect that. If anyone has any ideas, I'm definatly open to them. Thanks a lot.
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BigPerm
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21. July 2004 @ 17:13 |
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I'm just writing this to bump this above my other thread that I'm not going to use anymore, I hope this isn't something that makes people mad, sorry that I have two threads going at the top of the list.
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21. July 2004 @ 17:17 |
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Veblin
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21. July 2004 @ 17:35 |
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Quote:
2) When I put a blank disc in the burner drive, in "My Computer", it will only notice it as having free space on it if its a DVD+RW and if its Formatted with InCD. If I put any other blank disk in there (a DVD+R, or an unformatted DVD+RW) then it says that the Free Space is 0kb and the Used Space is 0kb, like its not even recognizing the media.
Don't use InCD. Don't install InCD. If it is installed, remove it. It is a known problem for burning DVD-Video disc's.
Also check this list. It is a list of software that causes problems for DVDXcopy software. I think it also applies to any problems burning DVD's in general with most software.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/94067
Posting Nero and DVD Decrypter logs would also be helpful.
I did find a DVD Decrypter log in this thread.
http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/95795
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I 16:48:52 Writing Image...
I 17:10:10 Abort Request Acknowledged
This could be a error caused by InCD. Packet writing software like that is constantly accessing your CD/DVD writer, and may be causing this abort request.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 21. July 2004 @ 17:58
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21. July 2004 @ 17:51 |
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Hi BigPerm, I forgot to ask how exactly you get the dvd to your HD. I assumed you were using Decrypter. Why not try using DVDShrink to rip and compress and then set it to auto burn with your choice of Decrypter or Nero. This way all the guess work is taken out of the picture. Everything is done for your after you start the process. If that doesn't work then there is a conflict in the installed software somewhere which may require you to uninstall the programs, reinstall one at a time and test each one until you find the troublemaker.
Jerry
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BigPerm
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21. July 2004 @ 20:54 |
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Hey there, I appreciate you helping out again Jerry. First of all, I copy my DVD's onto my HD using Shrink, it works very well, but its the burning process that kills me. I uninstalled InCD like you said, after I restarted the computer, I attempted to burn a CD Image using DVD Decrypter, after a LOOONG time, I ended up getting an error message, I'd show you the screenshot, but I guess it didn't work last time I tried it, so I'll just type what the error says.
I/O Error!
Device: [1:0:0] CREATIVE DVDRW DR8420E 0054 (E:)
ScsiStatus: 0x02
Interpretation: Check Condition
CDB: 2A 00 09 2F 30 00 00 10 00
Interpretation: Write (10) - Sectors: 601904 - 601919
Sense Area: 71 00 03 00 00 00 00 0A 00 00 00 00 0C 00 00 00 00 00
Interpretation: Write Error
|Retry| |Cancel|
Then I chose to retry and the burning was still running super slow, here is the final log from DVD Decrypter.
I 22:00:16 DVD Decrypter Version 3.2.3.0 started!
I 22:00:16 Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600 : Service Pack 1)
I 22:00:16 Initialising SPTI...
I 22:00:16 Searching for SCSI / ATAPI devices...
I 22:00:16 Found 1 CD-RW, 1 DVD-ROM and 1 DVD±RW!
I 22:00:39 Operation Started!
I 22:00:39 Source File: C:\JEEPERS_CREEPERS_2.ISO
I 22:00:39 Source File Sectors: 2,217,442 (MODE1/2048)
I 22:00:39 Source File Size: 4,541,321,216 bytes
I 22:00:39 Destination Device: [1:0:0] CREATIVE DVDRW DR8420E 0054 (E:)
I 22:00:39 Destination Media Type: DVD+RW (Disc ID: RICOHJPN-W11-01) (Speeds: 2x, 4x)
I 22:00:39 Destination Media Sectors: 2,295,104
I 22:00:39 Write Mode: DVD
I 22:00:39 Write Speed: 4x
I 22:00:39 Test Mode: No
I 22:00:39 BURN-Proof: Enabled
I 22:00:40 Filling Buffer...
I 22:00:41 Writing LeadIn...
I 22:00:44 Writing Image...
I 23:45:07 Abort Request Acknowledged
I 23:45:08 Synchronising Cache...
I 23:45:09 Closing Session...
E 23:45:09 Failed to Write Image!
E 23:45:10 Operation Aborted! - Duration: 01:44:30
I 23:45:10 Average Write Rate: 193 KB/s (0.1x) - Maximum Write Rate: 876 KB/s (0.6x)
Well thats about it, Jerry, if your out there I'd love to know what you make of this, because after 1 hour and 44 minutes of burning, the fastest it got was only .6x. I'd appreciate anyone elses help as well. Thanks.
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BigPerm
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21. July 2004 @ 20:56 |
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Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that the "Abort Request" in the log is from me, not from InCD, because I just got fed up with the process. Thanks.
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Veblin
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22. July 2004 @ 03:02 |
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You are not answering some simple questions.
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4) I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling the IDE Channel Drivers in order to make sure that they are set to "DMA if Available".
Yes, Transfer Mode: DMA if Available, should be listed, but that is not the important part.
The important part is what it shows on the line below that.
Current Transfer Mode: Ultra DMA Mode 2 should be listed.
If Current Transfer Mode: PIO Mode is listed then you still have a problem.
If uninstalling that IDE channel and rebooting and reinstalling the IDE Channel does not set it to
Current Transfer Mode: Ultra DMA Mode 2.
Then you need to check your BIOS (Setup) and make sure that DMA is enabled for those devices in the BIOS.
You should probably also try changing the cable that connects your DVD Burner to the Secondary IDE Channel.
A bad IDE cable could cause any number of problems like what you are having.
Have you installed a ASPI Transfer Layer? I could not tell from your previous thread.
Force ASPI 1.8.
http://forceaspi18.w.interia.pl/
Many burning programs have their own ASPI Layer installed to use like Nero. Other burning programs can or will use the system ASPI Layer. It never hurts to have a system ASPI Layer correctly installed. Windows XP comes with a built in system SPTI Layer but does not have a system ASPI Layer unless you install it.
A burning program like DVD Decrypter can use many different Transfer Layers.
DVD Decrypter can use the built in XP system SPTI Layer.
(I can see from your log above that you are using SPTI).
DVD Decrypter can also use the system ASPI Layer.
(ASPI came with earlier versions of Windows but you must install it to use it on XP).
DVD Decrypter can also use ElbyCDIO or Patin-Couffin.
You can see what Transfer Layer Interface is being used by DVD Decrypter.
Tools > Settings... > I/O tab.
On Windows XP, DVD Decrypter will default to SPTI unless you change it.
If you have installed the above Force ASPI, you can tell DVD Decrypter to use that instead.
Select ASPI-WNASPI32.DLL
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 22. July 2004 @ 04:41
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BigPerm
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22. July 2004 @ 09:05 |
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When I first reinstalled the IDE channel, it said that the transfer mode was Ultra DMA Mode 2, but now for some reason it says PIO only, how come it changed like that? I don't know, thanks for your help though. I'll try these things that you're telling me.
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Veblin
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22. July 2004 @ 09:45 |
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DMA Mode for ATA/ATAPI Devices in Windows XP.
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/storage/IDE-DMA.mspx
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For repeated DMA errors. Windows XP will turn off DMA mode for a device after encountering certain errors during data transfer operations. If more that six DMA transfer timeouts occur, Windows will turn off DMA and use only PIO mode on that device.
In this case, the user cannot turn on DMA for this device. The only option for the user who wants to enable DMA mode is to uninstall and reinstall the device.
All CRC and timeout errors are logged in the system event log. These types of errors could be caused by improper mounting or improper cabling (for example, 40-pin instead of 80-pin cable). Or such errors could indicate imminent hardware failure, for example, in a hard drive or chipset.
Have you tried setting it back to DMA now that you have removed InCD? Also keep checking it to make sure it stays that way. A bad cable or bad DVD burner could also cause this. Ripping from a damaged DVD or writing to a bad blank DVD could possibly also cause this.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 22. July 2004 @ 09:56
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