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Boycott Firefox! Gay marriage opponents call boycott after CEO ousting
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The following comments relate to this news article:
article published on 5 April, 2014
Following the resignation of Brendan Eich from Mozilla amidst a backlash over a donation he made to the California Proposition 8 campaign, Mozilla has come under fire again.
As you would expect, opponents of gay marriage in the United States sympathize with Brendan Eich, and are lashing out at Mozilla after he resigned from his position as chief executive, which he held only for a number of weeks.
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5. April 2014 @ 19:05 |
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I uninstall Firefox long time ago 'cos I knew this will happen ...and instal Tor.
Oh. never mine. lol
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Capitalism: Funnel most of the $$$ to the already rich.
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ivymike
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5. April 2014 @ 21:50 |
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I don't see the point of this boycott.....I mean you got your way, the dude in question resigned. Let's give it a rest already.
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Bozobub
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5. April 2014 @ 22:33 |
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You're confused, ivymike; this is the OTHER side of the argument, pissed that he was forced out.
One sauced gander, now that the goose is done.
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ivymike
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5. April 2014 @ 22:46 |
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I see.....It sounds like a damned if you do, damned if you don't kind of situation.
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ivymike
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5. April 2014 @ 22:46 |
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There's always Pale Moon, LOL.
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Bozobub
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5. April 2014 @ 22:47 |
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Yeah, this reaction is pretty much exactly what I was trying to warn about. Once you make it OK to go after someone for their beliefs and legal political actions, no matter how distasteful, it's all fair game.
Pale Moon (which I already happen to use) is just Mozilla, wearing a different, tighter dress ^^' ...
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ivymike
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5. April 2014 @ 23:01 |
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Both Pale Moon & Firefox owe their existence to the Netscape browser code.
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Bozobub
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5. April 2014 @ 23:05 |
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Sure, but it isn't Netscape updates that drive Pale Moon updates, after all - lol...
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ivymike
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5. April 2014 @ 23:13 |
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The source code of Firefox & Pale Moon had their origins from the Netscape Navigator's Gecko rendering engine.
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Bozobub
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6. April 2014 @ 00:24 |
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This is going way too far off topic, I think, so we should just leave it, but I'll pose the question to you: When was the last Netscape update..? The answer: YEARS ago. It's simply not Netscape any more, for good or ill.
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6. April 2014 @ 04:26 |
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Luckily, the haters are far outnumbered by the more reasonable, less ignorant (in some ways, at least) people. All these 'religious-minded' calls for boycotts rarely amount to anything.
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6. April 2014 @ 10:10 |
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These are the facts, they are indisputable:
1. This guy's donation happened in 2008
2. The voters in California voted against legalizing gay marriage that year, the majority of people in the state were against it!
3. It took a supreme court case years later to overturn the vote
4. President Obama, in 2008, also did not support gay marriage and said publicly that he was in support of "traditional marriage" between a man and a woman. He has since changed his view - should he be impeached? Sheesh!
So the liberal left has now crucified this guy for something he did 6 years ago when the entire issue was in flux, the majority of the people in his state of residence felt the same way, as did the president of the United States. Give me a break!
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ivymike
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6. April 2014 @ 14:04 |
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The US is deeply divided between progressive thinking people (Democrats) and regressive thinking people (Republicans). These divisions run very deep.
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Bozobub
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6. April 2014 @ 14:22 |
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I agree. And calling people out for a legal, not particularly fringe political stance from 2009 does NOT minimize this divide.
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6. April 2014 @ 15:58 |
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Originally posted by ChiknLitl:
4. President Obama, in 2008, also did not support gay marriage and said publicly that he was in support of "traditional marriage" between a man and a woman. He has since changed his view - should he be impeached? Sheesh!
Yes, he should be impeached for many things...but at least on this issue he changed his public stance for the better.
If this guy had supported laws against inter-racial marriage in the 1950's, and still supported such a view today, no one would have any issue with him being outright fired...so I guess the question is simple:
How long after a civil rights issue is accepted by the majority is it still acceptable for someone in the public eye (and not directly affiliated with any religious institution) to be against it? It seems to be sliding at least to some extent...but when you are talking about California, the timer is pretty short. When you are talking about gay rights in San Francisco, the timer doesn't exist.
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Bozobub
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6. April 2014 @ 15:59 |
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Sorry, but that's quite silly. You can only impeach for actual crimes. Until you have an impeachable crime, which no one has been able to produce, there's simply no basis for impeachment.
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6. April 2014 @ 16:32 |
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Originally posted by Bozobub:
Sorry, but that's quite silly. You can only impeach for actual crimes. Until you have an impeachable crime, which no one has been able to produce, there's simply no basis for impeachment.
He has violated the war powers provision, he has ignored the Geneva convention, he has ordered the assassination of US citizens without trial (using bombs), and he has wiretapped without a warrant. All of these things are hard fact with ample evidence, but even the republicans won't impeach him because that would open the door for impeachment of the next republican president that will do the same things.
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Bozobub
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7. April 2014 @ 02:36 |
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Yes, and Dubya, by that same scoring system, did many similarly impeachable things. You're exactly correct in your assessment, then, I'll have to grant you.
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7. April 2014 @ 13:26 |
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Don't believe its a religious call to boycott Mozilla, it is more of a free speech movement. We all have our opinions and are entitled to them. We may not all agree but to be runoff from a business because your opinion does not line up with the few is very absurd. Likes some one commented most of the country had the same opinion about gay marriage at the time he contributed. And all he contributed was a $1,000. I don't agree with Mozilla running him off but I am not going to boycott them just because we have a different stance on gay marriage.
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7. April 2014 @ 15:02 |
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Originally posted by maddog68:
Don't believe its a religious call to boycott Mozilla, it is more of a free speech movement. We all have our opinions and are entitled to them. We may not all agree but to be runoff from a business because your opinion does not line up with the few is very absurd. Likes some one commented most of the country had the same opinion about gay marriage at the time he contributed. And all he contributed was a $1,000. I don't agree with Mozilla running him off but I am not going to boycott them just because we have a different stance on gay marriage.
I don't think it would have been an issue if it were just a few employees. There may only be a few dozen employees that are directly affected, but I find it hard to believe that they are the only ones who support gay marriage. At this point, there are probably more homosexuals per capita that are against gay marriage simply to avoid having to get married than straight people against it because of whatever prejudices or beliefs they may have.
As for the free speech argument, it really doesn't work. If a person wants to wear a nazi uniform in public preaching about how wonderful hitler was and how only ariens deserve to live, his first amendment rights let him do exactly that. Obviously such a person would not make an ideal CEO. AND NO...I'm not calling him a Nazi by any stretch; just saying that a CEO cannot just claim free speech protection for whatever he says or does.
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7. April 2014 @ 15:53 |
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Originally posted by KillerBug:
Originally posted by Bozobub:
Sorry, but that's quite silly. You can only impeach for actual crimes. Until you have an impeachable crime, which no one has been able to produce, there's simply no basis for impeachment.
He has violated the war powers provision, he has ignored the Geneva convention, he has ordered the assassination of US citizens without trial (using bombs), and he has wiretapped without a warrant. All of these things are hard fact with ample evidence, but even the republicans won't impeach him because that would open the door for impeachment of the next republican president that will do the same things.
Democrats & Republicans just pass the same ball (Agenda) back and for and don't care about anybody other that themselves (Rich & Corporations interests)
The Govt. "some times" trow a bone to the people, just to keep them calm & under control.
The Mozilla boycott is laughable. "They" should give us a better options ....maybe IE, anyone!? lol
Live Free or Die.
The rule above all the rules is: Survive !
Capitalism: Funnel most of the $$$ to the already rich.
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7. April 2014 @ 17:17 |
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Originally posted by Mrguss:
The Mozilla boycott is laughable. "They" should give us a better options ....maybe IE, anyone!? lol
There is Chrome...not exactly the ideal open source solution, but it works really well for the average user. If you really dislike mozilla because of this or something else, there are other options.
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Bozobub
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7. April 2014 @ 17:37 |
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Ugh. I despise Chrome, not least due to how difficult it can be to disinfect, once people manage to infest it with creepy-crawlies.
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7. April 2014 @ 17:49 |
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No Chrome for me.
I'm happy with Tor: it work better and faster that the lately heavy duty Firefox.
...and I talking about with the same add-ons on them.
It's only me !?
Live Free or Die.
The rule above all the rules is: Survive !
Capitalism: Funnel most of the $$$ to the already rich.
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Bozobub
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7. April 2014 @ 17:55 |
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You might want to look up Pale Moon.
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