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Brits pay millions to continue Windows XP usage in public services
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article published on 6 April, 2014
The British government has reportedly signed a milti-million pounds deal with Microsoft to continue using Windows XP in public services across the island.
Windows XP SP3 officially reaches its end of support on Tuesday, April 8, thirteen years after the operating system first launched. After April 8, XP users are strongly recommended to either get a new PC, upgrade to a newer Windows ... [ read the full article ]
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biglo30
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7. April 2014 @ 07:52 |
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Money in the bank for Microsoft.
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hearme0
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8. April 2014 @ 16:51 |
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F'ing LOSERS!!!!!!!!
XP is dead, done, finito!
Get a grip people, pull your heads out of your *you know what* and make a change to something more current, secure and practical.
LOSERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone 'holding on' is who I am referring to! (standalone, non-internet connected PCs are an exception)
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9. April 2014 @ 03:32 |
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those that havent already moved on have only themselves to blame here.did anyone really think microsoft was bluffing after almost 13 years when they said they were ending support?
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10. April 2014 @ 04:02 |
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XP was good in its day. It gave the NTFS to home users. It gave everyone a big security hole, all had admin accounts.
Its day was in the 1990s.
The advantages of Windows 7 are many: security, and support.
The governments are spending tax dollars, foolishly...and I thought only the USA had the best politicians money can buy.
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10. April 2014 @ 10:12 |
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why couldn't they just put xp sp 4 on the pc disable updates and continue using it?
custom built gaming pc from early 2010,ps2 with 15 games all original,ps3 500gbs with 5 games all original,yamaha amp and 5.1channel surround sound speakers,46inch sony lcd smart tv.
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Kershek
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11. April 2014 @ 11:57 |
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Originally posted by dp70:
XP was good in its day. It gave the NTFS to home users. It gave everyone a big security hole, all had admin accounts.
Its day was in the 1990s.
The advantages of Windows 7 are many: security, and support.
The governments are spending tax dollars, foolishly...and I thought only the USA had the best politicians money can buy.
Windows XP was released in 2001, not the 90s. Windows' previous OSes also used admin accounts as a default.
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jagman1
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11. April 2014 @ 13:41 |
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Originally posted by hearme0:
F'ing LOSERS!!!!!!!!
XP is dead, done, finito!
Get a grip people, pull your heads out of your *you know what* and make a change to something more current, secure and practical.
LOSERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Anyone 'holding on' is who I am referring to! (standalone, non-internet connected PCs are an exception)
Why upgrade, xp is better than w7 ('more current, secure and practical'......are you having a laugh?! & w8 is a DISASTER!!) & does everything more intuitively, just keep supporting & update it, I expect you renew everything just 'cos you can, chasing the latest techie bauble but lots of folk (& countries) don't have the money so why hold them to ransom. M$ should be forced to keep it going. THIS IS ALL ABOUT MONEY!
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jagman1
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11. April 2014 @ 14:00 |
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Originally posted by aldan:
those that havent already moved on have only themselves to blame here.did anyone really think microsoft was bluffing after almost 13 years when they said they were ending support?
Why upgrade, xp is better than w7 (more current, secure and practical......are you having a laugh?! & w8 is a DISASTER!!) & does everything more intuitively, just keep supporting & update it, I expect you renew everything just cos you can, chasing the latest techie bauble but lots of folk (& countries) dont have the money so why hold them to ransom. M$ should be forced to keep it going. THIS IS ALL ABOUT MONEY! Originally posted by aldan:
those that havent already moved on have only themselves to blame here.did anyone really think microsoft was bluffing after almost 13 years when they said they were ending support?
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11. April 2014 @ 15:36 |
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well i guess i will just stick to my noncurrent,insecure,and impractical windows 7 here.cant afford the "upgrade" to xp right now.LMAO.
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h0g1e
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11. April 2014 @ 18:43 |
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Originally posted by jagman1:
Why upgrade, xp is better than w7 (more current, secure and practical......are you having a laugh?! & w8 is a DISASTER!!) & does everything more intuitively, just keep supporting & update it, I expect you renew everything just cos you can, chasing the latest techie bauble but lots of folk (& countries) dont have the money so why hold them to ransom. M$ should be forced to keep it going. THIS IS ALL ABOUT MONEY!
LOL who is this guy? hahaha ...
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11. April 2014 @ 19:25 |
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I suppose paying for future updates is one option - but Microsoft don't seem to have offered that to the general public, only to Government bodies who let's face it have only recently updated to XP from Windows 98.
Another option however is LINUX; I'd be grateful for any advice on this.
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11. April 2014 @ 20:04 |
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Live Free or Die.
The rule above all the rules is: Survive !
Capitalism: Funnel most of the $$$ to the already rich.
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12. April 2014 @ 07:06 |
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jagman1
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12. April 2014 @ 08:59 |
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Yes please......let's all dump M$ & move to linux ..........or android? I've been building systems for 20 years & tired very quickly of the re-install, upgrade, imaging (which became very difficult after xp)roundabout. Each new OS loses features taken for granted before & require learning, tweaking etc, which costs time & money. Vista was terrible, W7 is bloated but good (but still crap next to xp.........accidental deletes in explorer.......google it) W8 is AWFUL & is failing in take-up. Are you telling me M$ couldn't have kept XP, their most popular OS ever? No this is all about MONEY & big business holding the world to ransom. It costs us all BIG TIME in taxes, time, inconvenience etc, M$ is the only winner. If you follow the 'latest' anything you are being led like sheep to the slaughter.
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h0g1e
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12. April 2014 @ 16:46 |
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Yes please......let's all dump M$ & move to linux ..........or android? I've been building systems for 20 years & tired very quickly of the re-install, upgrade, imaging (which became very difficult after xp)roundabout. Each new OS loses features taken for granted before & require learning, tweaking etc, which costs time & money. Vista was terrible, W7 is bloated but good (but still crap next to xp.........accidental deletes in explorer.......google it) W8 is AWFUL & is failing in take-up. Are you telling me M$ couldn't have kept XP, their most popular OS ever? No this is all about MONEY & big business holding the world to ransom. It costs us all BIG TIME in taxes, time, inconvenience etc, M$ is the only winner. If you follow the 'latest' anything you are being led like sheep to the slaughter.
What do you do for a job jagman1? It would be very interesting to find out ...
Linux and Android are good and fill a small "niche" market ... but neither are even close to being as powerful and feature rich as Windows ... installation and re-imaging has never been easier (even someone like you could probably do it) ... I'm not exactly a fan of Microsoft ... but they do make great software and there are simply no other good alternatives out there at the moment!
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12. April 2014 @ 18:24 |
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Linux always gonna be superior that $M. [No reboot, no updates, no defragmentation, etc. garbage] in special for the Pure-Pros using the server version Functionality (Properly-setup) that will work forever until the electronics die (The best option for Web-Sites, etc. running on their own. While the desktop version will be for the "Rockies".
http://www.zdnet.com/20-great-years-of-...ers-7000018681/
Mac [Monopoly] OS is "dieing miserably" today and $M [2nd. Monopoly] Windows OS'es "will die some day" too; while Linux will take hundreds of years to full develop it. That's why is an open source and no only "Free" if not 'cos it need the help of as many programers possible to contribute to "exploit-it" & "perfected".
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-linux-kernel/
Even if I hate with all my hearth $M:
Window's are the most stable OS'es as today. for their constant support that take a lot of money just to stay alive.
On the another hand $M is so happy than they are hundreds on Linux Variants (Distros) OS'es ....for now.
Few Linux Variants are more popular, and they are those with more money invested or donated to support it or the most important thing: The longest code that aloud you to do more things with it, than a Distro with a short code like DSL Linux, etc.
https://www.linuxfoundation.org/sites/m...atinglinux.html
Other:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E8eSog_bhsk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8N8uHNXYLk
etc.
Live Free or Die.
The rule above all the rules is: Survive !
Capitalism: Funnel most of the $$$ to the already rich.
This message has been edited since posting. Last time this message was edited on 15. April 2014 @ 15:22
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12. April 2014 @ 22:49 |
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Typical government organization wasting money on a dead OS. Like some others have stated just turn off updates and continue to use the OS if it does the job for you. I've used MS's OS's with out their updates and have not really been in trouble because of it, that is why I pay for a Anti-Virus-Suite.
As to Linux it can be a good alternative for some but not the average user, their structures between distros' and lack of good controls that are user friendly requires a person that is somewhat tech savvy to use effectively. In summation, Linux is not superior to Windows, it has its strengths and downside just like Windows and at the end of the day if you are a power user Windows will serve you better than Linux (any distro).
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13. April 2014 @ 04:22 |
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and time marches on.
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13. April 2014 @ 14:41 |
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It appears that the malware distributors are circling the XP wagons.. I get ZeroDay infection url's for testing Security software from 4 different sites that have crawlers scanning for threats and this past week just one of those sites listed over 12,000 new ZeroDay threats and will probably be more than that in the weeks to come.
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13. April 2014 @ 19:05 |
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That would be always.... So do you think then that you won't be safe with XP with no current updates and a good Firewall/Anti-Virus? I would doubt it myself as stated I've used not updated XP OS's and other versions of Windows with no adverse effects, at least nothing that wouldn't get through my additional security packages. There is probably a handful or less of updates that you actually might need to fix holes in their system in a ten year span, but for that matter you'll never fix all of the wholes ever as long as you network or go online, truly.
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13. April 2014 @ 20:16 |
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As a 4th grade grammar teacher once told me "There is no such thing as Perfect. There is almost perfect or near perfect but perfect is an absolute that cannot be achieved."
As I see it there is also no such thing as perfect security or bullet proof. When you think you have achieved perfection there will always be a Bigger Gun that can take you down. LOL
If I were using XP and just couldn't give it up I believe that I would invest in a program called DeepFreeze by Faronics. It's a program that creates a virtual machine that you boot into and when rebooted to the real machine it goes back to all the original settings of the real machine and anything bad that was picked up while it the virtual machine is lost.. Closest thing to bullet proof as you can get.. I use it on my machines at home that my grand-kids load up with malware. I just reboot and poof it's all gone..
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14. April 2014 @ 11:55 |
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So true.....
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14. April 2014 @ 15:45 |
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Originally posted by Mrguss:
Linux always gonna be superior that $M.
It is certainly not superior, it's just not a target...
Market share of world computers:
Windows = 91%
Mac OSX = 7.5%
Linux = less than 1.5%
Do you really think any Self-respecting, low-life malware writer is going to waste their time on a drip in the bucket market? After all their in it to make the big bucks and M$ is the biggest target..
If Mac or Linux ever did gain a respectful share of the Market, the malware guys would be on them like "White on rice."
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leemoo
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15. April 2014 @ 05:28 |
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Originally posted by jagman1:
Yes please......let's all dump M$ & move to linux ..........or android? I've been building systems for 20 years & tired very quickly of the re-install, upgrade, imaging (which became very difficult after xp)roundabout. Each new OS loses features taken for granted before & require learning, tweaking etc, which costs time & money. Vista was terrible, W7 is bloated but good (but still crap next to xp.........accidental deletes in explorer.......google it) W8 is AWFUL & is failing in take-up. Are you telling me M$ couldn't have kept XP, their most popular OS ever? No this is all about MONEY & big business holding the world to ransom. It costs us all BIG TIME in taxes, time, inconvenience etc, M$ is the only winner. If you follow the 'latest' anything you are being led like sheep to the slaughter.
XP was awesome in its day but now its a broken product with support or not so it needed rebuilding from the ground up.
Vista and W8 are rubbish I agree but Win7 is another brilliant OS by MS.
As for imaging it is easy and in the corporate environment you can use MS free product MDT which is brilliant.
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15. April 2014 @ 15:14 |
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Originally posted by 2oldGeek:
Originally posted by Mrguss:
Linux always gonna be superior that $M.
It is certainly not superior, it's just not a target...
Market share of world computers:
Windows = 91%
Mac OSX = 7.5%
Linux = less than 1.5%
Your numbers are probably form U.S. right !? lol
I like the DeepFreeze Program tho.
I remember long time ago when XP was up. I try no to download the updates and always was ending up running the Driver Backup CD &/or formatting the machine.
I agree that Linux: in special the Server Version (web, email, DNS, proxy, FTP, IRC, etc.) is not for every one.
...this is more like go from never use a computer before, to start using one. Or switching from one OS. to another.
But for the no to Tech-Savvy: "We" need to start at somewhere right !?
Hardcore Security Linux:
http://smashingtips.com/6-reasons-why-l...are-more-secure
http://www.serverwatch.com/server-trend...know-about.html
MORE:
- Virus writers want attention. Since most people that interact directly with the OS interact with Windows, why not make a virus to infect Windows since you will annoy the most people?
- Stereotypically, a larger proportion of Windows users are vulnerable to making mistakes that allow viruses to infect their system when compared to Linux users.
- Windows is more vulnerable to attack. This is a very debatable topic, but it is widely believed that there are more exploitable holes in Windows than there are for viruses.
- It is also argued that potential holes are found and patched in Linux versions faster than in Windows versions because of the fact that more people look at, analyze, and test the actual code that builds Linux distros and much of the software that runs on them. This is due the the fact that most of Linux software is open and able to be viewed by anyone.
Live Free or Die.
The rule above all the rules is: Survive !
Capitalism: Funnel most of the $$$ to the already rich.
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